You may know Heartiste as a reactionary, misogynistic, proudly racist dispenser of manipulative, sometimes abusive dating advice to would-be “alpha males.”
Did you also know that he was an open advocate of domestic violence against women?
Well, I didn’t, until a friend pointed out a strange little exchange on his Twitter account the other day.
Last Tuesday morning, apropos of nothing in particular, Heartiste made the following pronouncement:
Depriving men of the means to make credible mate retention threats will assure that women need more retaining. #evolutionaryarmsrace
— heartiste (@heartiste) June 18, 2013
When someone asked what sort of threats he meant, he elaborated:
@ChrisCaroll1 Violence. Abandonment. Shame. Ostracism. etc. RT: What are "credible mate retention threats"? That's a new one on me.
— heartiste (@heartiste) June 18, 2013
The latter three items on the list (“Abandonment. Shame. Ostracism”) are standard techniques in Heartiste’s dating strategy, but the open advocacy of violence is, I think, new.
In addition to being repugnant, Heartiste’s argument here doesn’t even particularly make sense. Essentially, he seems to be saying that men need to be able to hit women to keep them in line so that they won’t have to … hit women to keep them in line.
Also, the phrase “mate retention strategy,” apparently popular with Evo Psych types, gives me the creeps. I’m pretty sure the best “mate retention strategy” is to be the sort of person your “mate” wants to be in a relationship with.
I did a quick search for the phrase, and found numerous references to two academic studies. One suggested that some women fake orgasms as a “mate retention strategy.” Another possibly more revealing one claimed that men of “low mate value” often insult their mates to lower their self-esteem so they won’t feel confident enough to leave. That seems more or less in line with what Heartiste’s general approach. And certainly, by any reasonable definition of the term, Heartiste and his followers are some pretty “low value” people, both as “mates” and as decent human beings generally.
I also found this reference to research by Evo Psych big daddy David Buss suggesting that violence — surprise! — isn’t actually a particularly effective “mate retention strategy.”
Also, beating up your mate is, you know, just generally a pretty shitty thing to do.
If Heartiste takes his tweets down, I’ve got screenshots.
EDITED TO ADD: Heartiste has really been going wild with the Twitter lately.
Here he claims to have invented the term “hivemind.”
Interesting that this pants-wetting manboob stole the Chateau Heartiste coinage "hivemind." A reader is outed! http://t.co/F729vnZLRe
— heartiste (@heartiste) June 24, 2013
After I pointed out that this belief was delusional, he suggested that I kill myself. Very alpha!
He’s also been on a bit of a racist rampage, posting lots of stuff like this:
What leftoids see as "white privilege" is just organically emergent consequences of biological realities. They know this, so they lie.
— heartiste (@heartiste) June 25, 2013
See also here, here, here, here, and here.
Phrasing your racism in pseudoscientific terms doesn’t make it right, dude. It just makes you a pretentious racist.
BOO taking justice into your own hands! HOORAY BEER!
Fuck, forgot the vid.
No, I am not an asshole. I am a dick, because assholes get fucked.
@Greg
That’s cute. Now go away.
Trolling protip: You don’t roll out the “U mad bro?” until someone is actually angry. You’re just an asshole.
No, Greg, you’re an asshole. Nice homophobia you got going on with all your other bullshit.
Damn Katz, you seem mad about it.
BOO implicit homophobia! HOORAY BEER!
-1/10
Failure to properly apply troll phrases.
Straight women like being fucked in the ass too, so I have no idea where you got the homophobia crap from.
Some straight guys like being finger fucked in the asshole by women too.
Dude, I’ve been looking up Red Stripe commercials on YouTube. I’m in an incredibly good mood.
There are lots of different aquatic environments too btw. Saltwater of course, but reefs, and freshwater — rivers, lakes, wherever a walking catfish may walk. And brackish. And black water, which is basically a home bog. Plus planted tanks, and ecosystems. And those weird nanocubes (idk if I’d trust one of those if you experience extended power outages, don’t think they’d do well for long without the filter)
Boring troll is boring.
Greg, fuck off, asshole.
…I cannot imagine that being pleasant to have in your house.
Can you grow cranberries in it?
“I made you really mad, right? You’re mad. You seem mad. Man I really got to you. I must have struck a nerve. You’re super pissed. Oh yeah, so angry. I’m so incisive and cutting.” *masturbating furiously*
I know how to derail this thread!
What sorts of data do you want too see from the survey? I mean the “how did people who answered X answer Y” stuff. The basics will probably get done tonight as I’m pretty much caught up with the surveys (we’re at 1,643 and I’m done through 1,623)
I can theoretically have charts/graphs ready for tomorrow, but probably won’t until the weekend so I can make ’em look good and provide as much data as possible with as little confusion as possible (it’s A Lot Of Data)
…woooo, Greg, keep telling us more of these manly manly stories about how you are such a tough guy that you would stand up to a 300lb biker dude and aren’t scared to totally fantasize about massively lopsided and violent retribution against women.
It totally doesn’t reveal things about your psyche that are really, really unpleasant.
Now who said that a person sent to prison over false rape charges isn’t a big deal?
How would one of you feminist like it if a teenage boy lied about statutory rape, and your ass got sent to prison for seven years?
Idk? I can’t see it harming the fish, but they do tend to nibble so idk if the berries would stand a chance (wouldn’t even try it with any sort of bottom feeder, they’ll eat pretty much anything)
Spot! That! Fallacy!
Appeal to emotion – where an argument is made due to the manipulation of emotions, rather than the use of valid reasoning.
@ Howard, please quote me where I said I would stand up to 300 pound biker.
BOO false rape myth! HOORAY BEER!
Lemon Curry?
Sometimes rules have to be bent.
The fuck does that mean?
I mean look at you… you have to get other people to do your dirty work (getting someone jumped, using the courts to take kids away).
The abuser here is you, boyo.
Once immediate action is taken, then leave the person alone.
Ah… this is one of those rules that *you* get to bend (what with engaging in vendettas, and “the system” to go after people you weren’t willing to use, “immediate action” to go after.
You can’t even live by your own code. So you celebrate abuse; which means your being a moral pygmy (even by your own stunted standards) is no surprise.
It depends on what the person did. If the person did some extremely foul crap, then it’s okay to call DCFS on them or to get them jumped.
Gee… no danged of that escalating. No one who might think killing someone who was willing to engage other people to beat them up, or get their kids taken away.
Nah… that couldn’t happen.
The chick was a gang banger, so she didn’t go to the cops. I knew her friend who was in the same gang, and he told me that she deserved to get beatdown and no one would retaliate. This was back in 2002.
This is bullshit. What the fuck does, “this was back in 2002, have to do with it. Was 2002 some special year where beating on a gang member was just accepted? Because if that’s the case the streets have gotten way different than they were. No one accepted that kind of disrespect. You beat on someone in a gang, and it wasn’t a “fair” fight, and that shit comes back to you.
Sounds to me like you were worried the gang might retaliate against you, so you slacked off; let your friends risk the weight. Classy.