You may know Heartiste as a reactionary, misogynistic, proudly racist dispenser of manipulative, sometimes abusive dating advice to would-be “alpha males.”
Did you also know that he was an open advocate of domestic violence against women?
Well, I didn’t, until a friend pointed out a strange little exchange on his Twitter account the other day.
Last Tuesday morning, apropos of nothing in particular, Heartiste made the following pronouncement:
Depriving men of the means to make credible mate retention threats will assure that women need more retaining. #evolutionaryarmsrace
— heartiste (@heartiste) June 18, 2013
When someone asked what sort of threats he meant, he elaborated:
@ChrisCaroll1 Violence. Abandonment. Shame. Ostracism. etc. RT: What are "credible mate retention threats"? That's a new one on me.
— heartiste (@heartiste) June 18, 2013
The latter three items on the list (“Abandonment. Shame. Ostracism”) are standard techniques in Heartiste’s dating strategy, but the open advocacy of violence is, I think, new.
In addition to being repugnant, Heartiste’s argument here doesn’t even particularly make sense. Essentially, he seems to be saying that men need to be able to hit women to keep them in line so that they won’t have to … hit women to keep them in line.
Also, the phrase “mate retention strategy,” apparently popular with Evo Psych types, gives me the creeps. I’m pretty sure the best “mate retention strategy” is to be the sort of person your “mate” wants to be in a relationship with.
I did a quick search for the phrase, and found numerous references to two academic studies. One suggested that some women fake orgasms as a “mate retention strategy.” Another possibly more revealing one claimed that men of “low mate value” often insult their mates to lower their self-esteem so they won’t feel confident enough to leave. That seems more or less in line with what Heartiste’s general approach. And certainly, by any reasonable definition of the term, Heartiste and his followers are some pretty “low value” people, both as “mates” and as decent human beings generally.
I also found this reference to research by Evo Psych big daddy David Buss suggesting that violence — surprise! — isn’t actually a particularly effective “mate retention strategy.”
Also, beating up your mate is, you know, just generally a pretty shitty thing to do.
If Heartiste takes his tweets down, I’ve got screenshots.
EDITED TO ADD: Heartiste has really been going wild with the Twitter lately.
Here he claims to have invented the term “hivemind.”
Interesting that this pants-wetting manboob stole the Chateau Heartiste coinage "hivemind." A reader is outed! http://t.co/F729vnZLRe
— heartiste (@heartiste) June 24, 2013
After I pointed out that this belief was delusional, he suggested that I kill myself. Very alpha!
He’s also been on a bit of a racist rampage, posting lots of stuff like this:
What leftoids see as "white privilege" is just organically emergent consequences of biological realities. They know this, so they lie.
— heartiste (@heartiste) June 25, 2013
See also here, here, here, here, and here.
Phrasing your racism in pseudoscientific terms doesn’t make it right, dude. It just makes you a pretentious racist.
@Katz
Sweet. You mind if I add you as a friend? (deviant art has a mark as friend box when you’re watching people but I always feel weird marking it unless we actually talk because then I think someone would say “Wait, I’m marked as your friend? We don’t even know each other. Creeepy” or something the point is I am paranoid)
If you find yourself having to demoralize a guy, then just leave him alone. You’re not obgliated to be with him. Why be a bully towards a guy?
But hey, if it’s a woman being, “uppity”, then the answer isn’t, “leave her alone”, it’s, “knock some
fearrespect into her.So nice to see someone who is honest about his desire to abuse people.
Do you people think this country is one huge suburbia? No low income areas, no ghettos, no psychotic women who intentionally target men who they see as easy targets, and etc?
Ooh… another moron who thinks that because he’s a shit, and lives in a poor part of town that means he “has to” be violent to women.
Newsflash kiddo, I grew up in E. LA. I have family in Compton (which is a lot better now than it was 30 years ago). I’m in NYC now.
The “rules” you imply are “for everyone” in those parts of the world, aren’t. They are the code of the asshole.
I take note that you are making shit up. “Quick money from a false rape accusation”. Hah! One, it’s a crime, not a tort. Two, even if it were a tort, it’s not quick; because you’d have to prove it to show damages. No conviction, no money.
So you are stupidly full of shit.
Yeeeeesssssss friend meeeeeee it is all part of my plaaaaaaaaaaannnnnn
(No idea why I’m being creepy today.)
How stupid? You just said women ought to beat you up, until you stop being willing to hit them for, “being disrespectful, or demoralising” you.
(this doesn’t even begin to address the huge legal/moral/logical fail in your ideas of what constitutes self-defense)
@Katz
haha, it is done then XD
@katz
I’m the rude one who just assumed to friend you automatically ::puts on cone of shame::
I do what works for me.
I have beeen abused twice by women. I got one abuser jumped, and the other one got her kid taken. Both abusers stopped being abusers and humbled themselves. They found out that there are consequences for their actions and some of their victims are willing to drop to their grimy level and hit them below the belt.
Professionals and bloggers don’t know crap about how to deal with abusers. That’s why the victim usually ends up dead, severly injured, or scarred for life.
Marie, I am an aggressive friender, so no need to apologize to me 🙂
@pecunium
Sometimes rules have to be bent.
@katz
😀 ::parties:;
Also, all in favor of ignoring the troll? (if anyone wants to keep poking him, fine by me, I’m just done trying to respond.)
@Greg
Sometimes which rules have to be bent? Women have to leave men alone if they’re acting in a way the men don’t like, but men don’t have to leave women alone if a woman is doing that, they should punch her in the face?
@Fade.
It actually applies to men and women. If a man is in a woman’s face, breaking her stuff, and etc she has the right to use immediate action. If that means using pepper spray or a stun gun, then so be it. Once immediate action is taken, then leave the person alone. Change your phone number, move out/ kick the person out, and sever all communication.
You mean leaving the person alone such as trying to use their kids against them or telling people to jump them?
I’m just going to trot out Myoo’s fabulous dancing goalposts.
Pecunium — come to the dark side! Join us on DA!
Me — http://argentiaertheri.deviantart.com/
Adding y’all!
So Greg what you’re saying is that you have never hit a woman, you have just had other people hit a woman for you.
Is that correct?
@ fade
It depends on what the person did. If the person did some extremely foul crap, then it’s okay to call DCFS on them or to get them jumped.
As for DCFS, there has to proof of neglect or child abuse. I was in a situation where the woman I was dating was selling foodstamps meant for the child for drugs, not taking her daughter to school, because she was tol drunk to get out of bed, and using her child to claim child molestation in order to Blackmail men out of money. I actually had audio proof of her doing those things.
BOO abusive asshole! HOORAY BEER!
But you waited until she was “disrespecting” you to do anything about it.
Christ, what an asshole.
@Argenti Aertheri
::Squees:: Added! 😀
@chibigodzilla
That’s almost correct. My friends just beat her down, and I didn’t bother telling them to stop.
The chick was a gang banger, so she didn’t go to the cops. I knew her friend who was in the same gang, and he told me that she deserved to get beatdown and no one would retaliate. This was back in 2002.
BOO not reporting child abusers right away! HOORAY BEER!
why do I care if some asshole you talked to thinks a woman you had beat up deserved to get beat up?
Why are you even here?
The “get them jumped” part is what makes you a gaping asshole, Greg.
@Kat
You mad sis?