You may know Heartiste as a reactionary, misogynistic, proudly racist dispenser of manipulative, sometimes abusive dating advice to would-be “alpha males.”
Did you also know that he was an open advocate of domestic violence against women?
Well, I didn’t, until a friend pointed out a strange little exchange on his Twitter account the other day.
Last Tuesday morning, apropos of nothing in particular, Heartiste made the following pronouncement:
Depriving men of the means to make credible mate retention threats will assure that women need more retaining. #evolutionaryarmsrace
— heartiste (@heartiste) June 18, 2013
When someone asked what sort of threats he meant, he elaborated:
@ChrisCaroll1 Violence. Abandonment. Shame. Ostracism. etc. RT: What are "credible mate retention threats"? That's a new one on me.
— heartiste (@heartiste) June 18, 2013
The latter three items on the list (“Abandonment. Shame. Ostracism”) are standard techniques in Heartiste’s dating strategy, but the open advocacy of violence is, I think, new.
In addition to being repugnant, Heartiste’s argument here doesn’t even particularly make sense. Essentially, he seems to be saying that men need to be able to hit women to keep them in line so that they won’t have to … hit women to keep them in line.
Also, the phrase “mate retention strategy,” apparently popular with Evo Psych types, gives me the creeps. I’m pretty sure the best “mate retention strategy” is to be the sort of person your “mate” wants to be in a relationship with.
I did a quick search for the phrase, and found numerous references to two academic studies. One suggested that some women fake orgasms as a “mate retention strategy.” Another possibly more revealing one claimed that men of “low mate value” often insult their mates to lower their self-esteem so they won’t feel confident enough to leave. That seems more or less in line with what Heartiste’s general approach. And certainly, by any reasonable definition of the term, Heartiste and his followers are some pretty “low value” people, both as “mates” and as decent human beings generally.
I also found this reference to research by Evo Psych big daddy David Buss suggesting that violence — surprise! — isn’t actually a particularly effective “mate retention strategy.”
Also, beating up your mate is, you know, just generally a pretty shitty thing to do.
If Heartiste takes his tweets down, I’ve got screenshots.
EDITED TO ADD: Heartiste has really been going wild with the Twitter lately.
Here he claims to have invented the term “hivemind.”
Interesting that this pants-wetting manboob stole the Chateau Heartiste coinage "hivemind." A reader is outed! http://t.co/F729vnZLRe
— heartiste (@heartiste) June 24, 2013
After I pointed out that this belief was delusional, he suggested that I kill myself. Very alpha!
He’s also been on a bit of a racist rampage, posting lots of stuff like this:
What leftoids see as "white privilege" is just organically emergent consequences of biological realities. They know this, so they lie.
— heartiste (@heartiste) June 25, 2013
See also here, here, here, here, and here.
Phrasing your racism in pseudoscientific terms doesn’t make it right, dude. It just makes you a pretentious racist.
Wait, we went on a journey through space and time AND DIDN’T INVITE ME?
*pouts*
Love the Mighty Boosh.
And the IT Crowd.
The episode with the trans* woman is horrible, but the piece that makes the episode almost trangressive in a good way is when you realize that Douglas and this woman are really, truly happy together. And he throws it away out of bigotry and narrowmindedness, and you can see that he’s never, ever, going to find another woman who makes him as happy as this.
That part puts the laugh squarely on his own horrible, horrible head.
But then they surround it with completely not-funny lazy jokes that are just the same bigotry they were making fun of a second ago.
Ugh.
One of the best IT crowd eps is the one where Jen pretends that she can speak Italian. *S*
My personal favorite is the trivia show/Matrix mashup. 😀
I can draw, tolerably. I can barely write.
Most of my creative energies these days go into making RPG adventures, and even then I like to use official campaign settings because all the heavy lifting’s been done.
I guess my problem is, I’m lazy. (Right now I’m also responsible for two little adorable, absolutely helpless babies.)
@LBT: Who’s this Orion jerk? I’m sorry he’s being a jerk to you. I loved “The Ship of Dreams”!
Good point on the overall story arc, Howard. I think that’s part of why I dislike that episode so much, is it came really close to dealing with trans* issues in a really great way, but then had to go and muck it up so badly.
As for my favorite episode, I’m casting my vote in with the Jen speaking Italian episode too. Really, there were so many great episodes…now I’m thinking I may have to rewatch the series. 😉
::sees title::
::desires brain bleach::
@AbominableSnowPickle
Welcome 😀 Love your name XD
@melody
Yay 🙂 Glad to here things are going good-ish for you.
@LBT
Quick everyone, MAAAAKKKKEEE MOOOORRRRREEEE BBBAABBBIIEEESSSS!!!!!!!!!!!ELEVEN!!!
/sorry coffee just hit me.
@Argenti Aertheri
Sorry to hear things are rough for your fishies 🙁
@AdominableSnowPickle
😀 I have little mouth/brain filter too! ::offers high five:: Though moreso in meat space then online.
Zomg, you montesr!!!11 YOu’re stealing their manliness!
And posting this now cuz my computer scared me, making me think it’d freeze!
(…No! No my freeze peaches!)
@Bob Dole
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO BLOCKQUOTE MONSTER
Re: artistry
I am one of those pencil people who cannot do clean lines for crap. I like sketch my own picture, glance over at my sister’s paper and I’m like “BUT IT LOOKS DONE HOW DO YOU DO THAT”. So I use the tablet to clean up (and color!) everything.
And, I’m finally caught up on the thread.
@Opium4themasses
OUch XD when my sister told me about the Roissy/Envy comparison I was appalled (I actually like Envy, as a character, though he’s totally evil) but I can’t argue with this XD
@fade
Me? Utilize the earaser 😛 Though I think you’re too hard on your sketchies. And don’t ask me more, cuz my style tends to err on the ‘pretend it’s stylistically messy’ side.
That’s my style usually too. I always want to be clean and look polished …but it rarely works out that way unless I’m doing cartooning of some sort.
From the twitter sidebar thingie right there:
Shit, these guys. What a never-ending whirlpool of shitty things they say.
@SittieKItty
Pretend it’s stylistically messy buddies? (I wasn’t trying to say you were asking me, in case it wasn’t clear, I was snarking cuz fade brought me up and mentioned my ‘neat’ lines when they really…aren’t XD)
Haha, yes. I can always use more art buddies!
@SittieKitty
Sweet! Art buddies 😀
*whistle*
See, the great thing about inking is that your lines no longer have to be neat. The pencils can be a total mess and then you ink it and just erase them all. (I’m a terribly careless lefty, so the left side of my sketches always turns into a smear.)
Ditto katz! I do like that about inking. I’m still getting used to it, the whole drawing black and then having to do highlights since the black is all monochrome is something for me to get used to, since I’m just so used to being able to vary pencil shades.
(And yea, I’m a prolific writer ;^.^)
Yet another artist here that’s managed to not draw for a while. *sigh*
Well, I’ve still got all my old supplies, and my grandparents let me have an old drafting table (which is in amazing shape for being over 50 years old).
@Marie and Fade
Stylistic messy peeps unite! Although in my case, I can make it work with oil paints. Never got into painting until college when they introduced us to oil (YU DRY SO FAST, ACRYLIC?!) but then I loved it.
@Amnesia
STylistically messy peeps! 😀 I draw about as much as I want to, but have been writing longer (since I was 12) and have a hell of time doing that consistently now 🙁 For some reason my depression makes me draw more and write less :/
I’m more likely to do good art, like giant paintings, when I’m hypomanic, than when I’m depressed. When I’m depressed I read things I’ve written, and generally feel too apathetic to write anything. When I’m swinging up or down though, I’m a writer. I can’t help it. It’s like a compulsion… and I feel awful when I’m unable to do it because I’m lacking in motivation or ideas. Lacking in ideas = so frustrating…
@SittieKitty
When I’m depressed I feel worse about my work (too? Sorry it was hard to tell). I just draw to blow off steam, so that’s when I do it the most. :/
@SittieKitty I tend to write on the upswings (and during my manic phases), when I am full of ideas and racing to get them out and don’t much care how they sound. I edit on my downswings when I have a tendency to hypersensitivity and will pay more attention to the words and details.
When I’m under the cloud itself, I sit at my laptop eating crackers and reading comment sections and reddit threads.
I’ve been lacking in motivation many, many times. Ideas, I have plenty. I can sign anyone up and for a small fee, I’ll send you ideas on a regular basis (weekly? daily? hourly?). Some of them will be hairbrained and half-baked, some will be grandiose and impossible, but I’ve got a billion of them!
By the way, sorry I goofed up my link earlier. I linked to yahoo rather than the HuffPo. I tried twice to give the right link, but both of the comments disappeared. So if anyone wants to read the little MGTOW thing, just google Huffington Post 8 reasons straight men do not want to get married.