Mighty White of You

Oooh, ninjaed by pecunium!

Would it work to make the age ranges simply teens, twenties, thirties and so on? I’ve never understood why they’re broken up that way.

Politics: I’m not a liberal. I’m way to the left of liberal. 😉

You might add socialist and anarchist in there. And you’ve GOT to have libertarian in there, for lulz.

For politics, would far left, left, middle, right, far right work for different countries? Do they mean the same thing? (and maybe ‘left-leaning’ ‘right-leaning’ or something?)

Tracy, yeah, I think that’s the clearest way to put it about politics.

Dave,
Given the nature of the topic, and picking up from where I left off from my previous comment, I would now like to make the case for why Men’s Rights have a particular importance to and for Black Men.

Let’s take an item that came up fairly large on both the GMP and Reddit lists, false rape charges. American history records the fact that Black Men in particular have suffered mightily as a result of being falsely accused of rape (usually by White Women) and were often lynched or otherwise horribly murdered. The very name Emmit Till is synonymous with this sort of thing. Ida B. Wells documented all the lynchings that took place across the country along these lines of Black Men.

And in our time today, this sort of thing continues, false rape charges, I mean. Black Men continue to suffer under these abuses of the law, with lots of Black Men serving years of jail time. Every year it seems that we all hear of at least one such case, often involving a Black Man, who has finally been exonerated of a false rape charge, after spending years of his behind bars.

Such is the recent case of one Mr. Brian Banks: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57577708/brian-banks-football-player-exonerated-in-rape-case-signs-with-atlanta-falcons/

Nor is he by any means alone. Hence, the concern of false rape charges is not only a highly legitimate MRA concern, they are incredibly and profoundly moreso for Black Men.

O.

I think I’d choose a Savannah Cat or Cornish Rex.

“Plus I really hope hypergamous is going to be included in sexuality. How else do us queens get to describe ourselves?”

Ok I’m just doing a random hilarious select as many as you want option, I want actual data here!

And idk on politics, I like Tracy’s suggestion, but kinda do want anarchist, socialist, etc represented…do both and economics?

I’m really wary of lumping religious conservatives and fiscal ones, but also wary of lumping far-right and P**l’s followers, since they wouldn’t check far-right and are NOT far-left.

And I can’t, unfortunately, do a fill in the blank on the free version of the site. And they suck of data crunching anyways.

Argenti – plus, mentioning actual politicians is going to end up slanting the survey for USians and maybe Canadians. The categories have to be broad enough to apply internationally.

So, I’ve kind of dealt with the lynching thing before — or rather, reported on the NAACP’s own research on lynching:

In 1919, the NAACP released a publication on lynchings, with data compiled from newspaper clippings and other reports. They found that from 1889-1918, 3,224 people were lynched, mostly in the South. Nearly 80% of the victims were black. This report found that the claim that lynchings were a response to black men raping white women was largely a myth. Most lynchings were justified by accusations that black men had committed crimes other than rape. 1919 ended up being one of the worst years in the U.S. for racial violence (lynchings and white-initiated race riots), with hundreds killed and thousands injured. There’s a pretty good book about it called Red Summer, by Cameron McWhirter, if anyone is interested.

On to the present… The Innocence Project is doing fantastic work exonerating (mostly) black men wrongly convicted of a whole range of crimes, and I support their work. But let’s face it, it’s the “War on Drugs” that is mostly responsible for the absolutely horrendous incarceration rates for black men in the US. Black women too! I am in favor of a wholesale re-write of the US criminal code and an overhaul of the criminal “justice” system, but you have to make an effort to understand WHY it is so messed up if you have any chance of fixing it.

First, Innocence Project gets a double thumbs up

Second, I wasn’t going to use R*n P**l in practice, just feel like libertarianism is his personality cult.

Also, I am Not Fucking Touching religion unless you really want me too.

I’m inclined to think that the gender thing is best separated into: Genderqueer, Agender, Omnigender, Trans Woman, Trans Man, Cis Woman, Cis Man.

Hmm, SittieKitty has a point…that plus the good old other?

I think that most of these poll categories are gonna need an “Other” entry, just to be safe….

Obsidian: As has been noted, African-American men face false charges of all sorts at a much higher rate than Caucasians, not just rape. So the benefit to the African-American community of somehow eradicating false rape charges specifically (rather than working for a general better system of justice generally) would only help a very narrow segment of the black community in America overall.

And of course, that assumes that the MRM is somehow capable of doing that–despite primarily being a blog circle-jerk/slap-fight, depending on how the in-group politics are going at the time, with very little effort into anything that might qualify as activism.

Oh, speaking of activism, folks–I’m going to be writing to Kickstarter, and to two companies I know use KS for their campaigns, and inform them that I will NOT be participating in those campaigns, or any others, so long as KS keeps the policies they currently have in place. (I might accept the notion that those current policies required them to honor the campaign for that PUA monstrosity, since the evidence was outside the KS page on Reddit, and I can see them not thinking of that possibility at the time, but they CAN adjust going forward.) I am going to explicitly suggest Indiegogo 9another crowdfunding site) that they can use if they want my money. Or they can pressure KS to change their policies, either way.