So here’s an interesting chart. Guess what it represents?
A) The membership of the David Duke Fan Club
B) The racial breakdown of the most successful Liberace impersonators
C) The demographics of the Men’s Rights subreddit
Well, ok, that was too easy. It is of course all of the above. I’m guessing. It’s definitely C, at least, as this chart was prepared to show the results of the 2013 Men’s Rights subreddit demographic survey.
Now, you might say, well, isn’t Reddit itself a pretty white place? And you would be right. But the Men’s Rights subreddit seems to be a bit whiter — and a lot less black — than Reddit as a whole, if Quantcast’s estimates of Reddit’s overall ethnic breakdown are accurate.
In other completely non-surprising news, 89% of Men’s Rights Redditors are men. And a lot of them are libertarians. MRAs complain endlessly that we pigeonhole them as a bunch of entitled white dudes. They’re really not doing much to challenge that assumption.
The most important issue to these fellas (and the small minority that aren’t fellas)? Survey says: False rape accusations.
Other critical issues to the Men’s Rightsers include “custody rights” (which is a bit odd because 92% of those surveyed have no kids), “legal discrimination” (whatever that means), “education discrimination” (this is a thing?), and “male disposability.”
“Male birth control” and “paper abortion,” while relatively less important to the Men’s Rightsers, each got hundreds of votes.
I’m surprised “friendzoning” isn’t at the top of the list, but unfortunately it wasn’t one of the choices. I blame misandry.
As a fan of both Davy Jones and Woody Guthrie, I’m really not getting this “short men don’t get any” bullshit. Interesting, though, that it’s the hill the troll has picked to die on.
@Argenti:
“And I can google, looks like 50 cent had minority shares a few years ago in exchange for being a spokesperson. Nothing like ownership.”
O: I stand corrected; yet, my point is still valid – ARE Feminists consuming products, that are part and parcel of the Patriarchy – like Vitamin Water, who’s pitchman is none other, than 50 Cent?
Hmm?
O.
Happened on this blog, yesterday, in response to a poor word choice by someone responding to this idiot.
Can you imagine the rationalisations and defensive lashing out that would happen on an MRA comment thread if somebody asked for an apology for a similar transgression?
Apparently O-Colon thinks demographics and attitudes are one and the same – so being in a group of 90% white non-racists is the same as being in a group with 90% white supremacists. Then again, we’ve established that he doesn’t really mind racists anyway, as long as they help him in his struggle to liberate the black man from bitches of every colour.
Argenti, I got really tired of have to take muscle relaxants for my neck after a night of dancing with guys that topped six feet tall. And its not really all that enchanting to slow dance with partners when you’re only up to their chest and you’re in heels…
Never dated huh? Wink wink nudge nudge.
Now now pecunium, you can’t call him an idiot because…
“O: Ooooh…somone, quite possibly non-Black, openly questioning the intelligence of a Black Man? Hmm, where have I heard *that one* before…I wonder…”
I am exhausted in so many senses of the word. Unfortunately, mostly not the ones sleep will help with (more like the ones it’ll actively make worse, thanks jerk brain)
O: I stand corrected; yet, my point is still valid – ARE Feminists consuming products, that are part and parcel of the Patriarchy – like Vitamin Water, who’s pitchman is none other, than 50 Cent?
The vast majority of products are ‘part and parcel of the patriarchy’, you fucking cretin.
Flump: precum before making friends is rape
Only if you don’t keep it in your pants.
Oh… Flump has a troll-crush on me. Yes, I do make friends everywhere I go. I also piss off stupid people.
I notice that you have chosen to not be my friend,and are somewhat pissed off.
@Hippodaemia:
“As a fan of both Davy Jones and Woody Guthrie, I’m really not getting this “short men don’t get any” bullshit. Interesting, though, that it’s the hill the troll has picked to die on.”
O: That is NOT what I said; thank you for not knowing what you’re talking about…
O.
Thank you kiki, my thoughts exactly. And O? Not 50 cent, near as I could tell, no one in particular.
Pilllowinhell — exactly, if I have to strain to kiss my partner, this just isn’t sexy anymore. Eye-to-eye works far better (which gets weird when I suddenly grow 4″!)
Seriously, does the misandry factor depend what’s in my pants? What if I’m wearing my chunky boots and ze’s in stilettos? Does it matter what’s in whose pants and who has the higher heel?!
Cis het misandry is so much easier to figure out!!
@Kiki:
“The vast majority of products are ‘part and parcel of the patriarchy’, you fucking cretin.”
O: There, there, madam; no need to get emotional.
So, what are the Feminists doing to address this major problem? Are they boycotting Vitamin Water?
O.
Argenti: I waded in, long enough to see how he behaved, and exercised the better part of valor. He wasn’t going to listen, any comment was springboard for a tangential rant (with defelectionary phrases to as to avoid actual engagement with the argument), and evidence meant a head not, a change of subject and then a circling back to the original position as if it had never been refuted.
Married to some obvious dismissal of women in general.
It was so not worth it. I had better things to do, like discussing language, and concealed carry and how the NYPD fails to train cops.
This precum nickname is cracking me up.
Also not rape if the precum is part of the employment of a consenting sex worker. Almost certainly not friends, but consenting all the same.
Do you consider socks your friend?
Oh gods, out if precum context, in blog context. Our socks are precum receptacles!
Please tell me that make sense outside my head,
Oh… he’s going for the, “Calm down little lady” card. It’s so cute when they presume to intimacy.
Jebus, one of Obsidian’s links to Roissy has people talking about which national facial composite has the best “dick-sucking lips” and the like. Whenever I’m sure I’ve scrubbed all memories of that place off my mind…
Yeah, Obs, the way some women talk about and even treat short men (initially, at least) is pretty shitty, no doubt, so I’ll give you that – I’ve seen it first hand. Indeed, on that very point and in my experience at least (so anecdata, take it as you will), women who describe themselves as “feminists” or have some connection to “feminism” seem to be much less likely to have such hang-ups about height and the like and to be more aware of such issues.
Of course, this is a separate issue from initial physical attraction; there’s a difference between not being able to help that and to talk or act like an asshole about it. I’m not an underwear model either anyway so I’m not exactly speaking from a position of privilege on this matter. 🙂
(inb4, “we’ve covered all that dipshit, read more carefully”. this thread is fucking huge, man)
Argenti: That’s a level of involvement with our socks I don’t want to engage in.
And he’s ignoring all my references to the big wide world of non-cis/het people/relationships.
Oh! About three pages ago he wanted examples of how gay rights had helped straights and my off the cuff list included DADT. He totally missed how I said it ALSO affected straight people engaging in oral/anal sex, thought I said primarily or something. But was a DADT discharge DD or general?
Pecunium — fair e-fucking-nough!
Receptacles for their own precum? Since 90% are MRAL and we’re all fairly sure he has the requisite bits to produce it…
@Kiki:
“Can you imagine the rationalisations and defensive lashing out that would happen on an MRA comment thread if somebody asked for an apology for a similar transgression?”
O: Which is…?
“Apparently O-Colon thinks demographics and attitudes are one and the same – so being in a group of 90% white non-racists is the same as being in a group with 90% white supremacists.”
O: Please look at the title of the post – it says, “Might WHITE of You” – NOT, “Mighty WHITE RACIST of You”. Dave is clearly making the case that the MRA community as they are defined on Reddit, is overwhelmingly White. I am making the case that the Feminist online community, is the same, and more to the point, that per his own Twitter account activity, that we could infer as much about Manboobz itself.
What part of that don’t you get?
“Then again, we’ve established that he doesn’t really mind racists anyway, as long as they help him in his struggle to liberate the black man from bitches of every colour.”
O: LOL. Black Men have been doing that just fine on their own, for quite some time now:
A Brotha’s Take On “Men Going Their Own Way”
http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com/entry/98877
and
The Curious Case Of The Man-Less Meet Market (The Obsidian Files Remix)
http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com/entry/104470
Among a great many others.
You were saying?
O.
In completely random things, I should have my new glasses by this time next week. And considering I literally gave myself a headache on the survey, I cannot wait. (I ended up going with another pair of eye sized rounded square frames, in black [my genius mother handed me both the neon pink and neon blue versions, at least she was actually trying to be funny!])
David’s twitter account is proof of the racial makeup of the commenters here?
1) do you want video proof of feminists fucking short men?
2) do you want photographic proof feminists have paid 100% for dates with short dudes?
3) do you get how twitter works?
O: There, there, madam; no need to get emotional.
Not getting emotional – I just felt that the naughty word was necessary to fully convey the extent of your jaw-dropping idiocy. I apologise if I harmed your poor, sensitive widdle bravehero ears.
And if feminists wanted to address ‘this major problem’, they would have to boycott the vast majority of products, which would be somewhat impractical. Why, I would guess that many if not most of the products you use have some link to racism (do you know that Colgate produce a toothpaste, not for sale in the US, called ‘Darkie’, with a picture of a black guy on the front?), but I don’t imagine you’d ever boycott… oh sorry, I forgot you don’t really have a problem with supporting racists.
O-Colon, I don’t give a fuck about the title of the thread. You have said on here that you support the MRM despite its frequent and ‘blatant’ (your word) racism. The demographics of Manboobz are entirely irrelevant to this.
Are you fucking kidding me?
Yes, Vitamin Water is the problem. You are a turd.
“Can you imagine the rationalisations and defensive lashing out that would happen on an MRA comment thread if somebody asked for an apology for a similar transgression?”
O: Which is…?
Add ‘hypothetical’ to the list of concepts that the fucking Bard Of The MRM knows nothing about.