So here’s an interesting chart. Guess what it represents?
A) The membership of the David Duke Fan Club
B) The racial breakdown of the most successful Liberace impersonators
C) The demographics of the Men’s Rights subreddit
Well, ok, that was too easy. It is of course all of the above. I’m guessing. It’s definitely C, at least, as this chart was prepared to show the results of the 2013 Men’s Rights subreddit demographic survey.
Now, you might say, well, isn’t Reddit itself a pretty white place? And you would be right. But the Men’s Rights subreddit seems to be a bit whiter — and a lot less black — than Reddit as a whole, if Quantcast’s estimates of Reddit’s overall ethnic breakdown are accurate.
In other completely non-surprising news, 89% of Men’s Rights Redditors are men. And a lot of them are libertarians. MRAs complain endlessly that we pigeonhole them as a bunch of entitled white dudes. They’re really not doing much to challenge that assumption.
The most important issue to these fellas (and the small minority that aren’t fellas)? Survey says: False rape accusations.
Other critical issues to the Men’s Rightsers include “custody rights” (which is a bit odd because 92% of those surveyed have no kids), “legal discrimination” (whatever that means), “education discrimination” (this is a thing?), and “male disposability.”
“Male birth control” and “paper abortion,” while relatively less important to the Men’s Rightsers, each got hundreds of votes.
I’m surprised “friendzoning” isn’t at the top of the list, but unfortunately it wasn’t one of the choices. I blame misandry.
I’d go with slightly more breakdown with the religion one than “have” or “not have” because “not religious” covers so much ground – anything from atheist to yes, believe in deity/afterlife but do not believe in any organised religion. The latter two are both “not religious” to me but they’re poles apart in belief.
Hope you got some sleep, Argenti.
I like that formulation of the religion question.
Survey related: http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/manboobz.com has some demographic info in the ‘audience’ tab. Not sure how reliable it is, though. All the confidence levels are ‘low’.
Perhaps some sort of troll proof captcha? e.g. Which of these kittens is the snuggliest?
Argenti, I just think that ballot stuffing could really undermine the whole thing, and if there isn’t some way to block that even a small number of trolls doing it could really distort the results.
I mean, neither solution is perfect, but that’s my vote as least bad.
Maybe we should do the survey in the forum?
@hellkell – I’m very relieved I managed to get the big bloodstain out of my bra from yesterday (I had outpatient surgery. I have no idea why I thought it wouldn’t be very bloody but foolishly I did). Thankfully it was an old bra so if I hadn’t been able to clean it, I could’ve just tossed it.
FYI if you need to remove a bloodstain, apply laundry detergent and then soak the clothing in cold water for a while, up to 30 minutes, before washing (I usually stick with cold water). Sometimes you have to do that, wash, and then wash again using stain remover like Oxyclean. The most important thing for stain removal is never put the item through the dryer until you’re sure the stain is gone. Air dry and check first.
drst: I hope your surgery went well and you’re recuperating nicely.
Good hints. I’ve always had good luck with hydrogen peroxide and bloodstains.
I use the Avon kind, but just because I sell it. The drugstore ones are probably about the same.
And if I had known how bad permanent makeup would hurt, I would have just gone to the Kansas City clinic in the first place. I have a low tolerance for pain. I think you’re brave to get a large one because it is even more skin under the tattoo gun.
@Argenti,
Would the religion question have follow up questions to specify what religion or denomination someone is, or would that be way too broad? It could also say, “Are you a lapsed member of your religion?” And the atheist category could split into atheist, agnostic, and other.
bionicmommy: It really depends on the area you get inked. Tops of my biceps? Fine. Underside? OMG, painkillers would have a FABULOUS thing. The guy who did my last one was saying to get areas like kneecaps, sternum, anything bony done while you’re young because it’ll hurt less.
Does the Skin So Soft really work for mosquitos? I need to get some new repellant, and I really hate what’s available at the store.
1) I want to keep the religious question(s) simple because I can’t do write-in replies with the free version of the survey site. So I can certainly add a “lapsed or active?” style question. But idk about denominations, not without just, like, grabbing a huge list from wiki or something.
2) the politics on an axis thing got shot down early, and for good reason — all/most of us are going to swing left on a social justice scale, but fiscal? No fucking clue what you’d all say. They certainly aren’t the same thing. So I was going to do the equiv of denominations, but same problem list-wise.
3) “For troll avoidance, would it be feasible to do the survey via email? Have it set out as something we can copy here, then mail it to Dave and he can forward it to you? It’d be a pain, I know, but if it stops trolls getting in …”
“Maybe we should do the survey in the forum?”
Emailing the survey in general no (and it’d exclude lurkers that way); making a list of your replies for Fade and Marie if it catches them, or the non-Rogan folks using LBT’s nym, yeah, that might work. I’d have to add them by hand, but there probably aren’t that many people who’d have that issue with cookies. Forum…could either post replies there, or PM me and I’ll give you my email (which would allow anonymous replies if you just set up a dummy email to mail them from)
If David doesn’t mind collecting the email replies of people caught by cookies, that might work best since his email is public and doesn’t require forum access (sorry, stalker ex means I won’t post mine publicly, though I’m a google fan, which should be enough for y’all to guess it)
drst — hope it went well, and you heal up nicely. And I second the hydrogen peroxide suggestion.
This was pages ago, and I know we’re ignoring him, but I have to.
Off the top of my head, spread awareness about HIV/AIDS testing and treatment. Repealing DADT, as it made various sex acts, ones more often engaged in by GLB people, but also straight people, um, FUCK! Pecunium explained this to me in detail and now I can’t recall if it was a dishonorable discharge or not. In any case, it did affect straight people too. Less so, but yeah, “affect straight people as well” = yep. Striking down sodomy laws, which, again, also covered straight couples engaging in anal sex.
Time to add “integer” to the list of words that MRAs don’t understand.
Katz — no point, math is already on it.
I’m happy to collect email responses.
As for the forum, we shouldn’t do teh survey there. It’s not very active at the moment and only a small portion of the regular readers are signed up there.
@hellkell, oh yes, I really like the SkinSoSoft bug repellants and sunscreens. I’m not just saying that because I sell it either. It’s effective against mosquitoes, ticks, and no-see-ums, it smells pretty, and it doesn’t have Deet. Now the products that actually do the best are the SkinSoSoft bug guard line. Some people claim the regular bath oil works, too, but I don’t know if that’s true or not.
It’s great for kids, because it protects them from sunburns and bug bites at the same time, two birds with one stone. Then my kids can roll around in the grass and not get eaten up by those nasty biting midges.
And it seems like painkillers would be standard for all tattoos. Why not? Just as long as someone has a driver to take them home afterward, and a doctor’s approval, it would make the whole thing so much easier, both for the tattoo artist and the customer.
thebionicmommy — I know aspirin is right out because of its blood thinning properties — just makes you bleed more. NSAIDs idk, I’d think they’d be ok.
David — awesome, I’ll add a note at the top that if you’re worried about cookie issues, save your responses and email David. *checks test report* yeah, that can work!
I was thinking of prescription pain medication for tattoos, because they’d be stronger than over the counter ones. It’d be like sedation dentistry, except sedation tattooing. But to do that, they’d have to have doctors or nurse practitioners on hand, and not many tattoo parlors can afford to have them on staff. Some permanent makeup places are run out of medical offices for this reason, because people want to be sedated during that.
But yes, it’d be a bad idea to take a blood thinner before a tattoo. Extra bleeding is a bad deal.
bioncimommy: thanks, I’ll check those SSS products out. I would rather buy them from you instead of online.
Argenti: I think NSAIDs would work before tattooing, they didn’t have me stop mine before my surgery.
IIRC, the Skin So Soft bath oil was what kicked off AVon getting into bug spray, because the bath oil worked. I used to love when the catalog would show up at the house, and those little sample lipsticks.
This bothers me and I want to make sure that the commenters here are aware. This is the Pew study that OF cites to as showing that the majority of households are headed by a female breadwinner. As the numerate among you will note, the study found that 40% of households are headed by a female breadwinner, which is 11% less than 51%.
63% of these households are headed by single mothers, about which Pew says this: “Single mothers, by contrast, are younger, more likely to be black or Hispanic, and less likely to have a college degree.” (Emphasis mine.) Indeed, 2010 census data shows that 30% of single mothers live in poverty, as opposed to 13% of single fathers.
So OF(fs)’s contention that women are now heading the majority of households and are much wealthier than men is patent bullshit and suggests that he is either innumerate or outright lying.
why are we even dignifying OF’s continued intellectual masturbation anyway? He’s been arguing in bad faith since he got here.
Argenti, if you include “Hispanic” as a category, make sure it’s either “Hispanic/Latin@” or have a separate Latin@ option. I never know whether to check the Hispanic box. Hilusic maybe.
Actually, I’m surprised no-one commented on this one:
Collary, if game doesn’t work, rape is necessary. A man without game is a rapist or a virgin.
This is seriously SERIOUSLY Fucked. Up. Shit thinking.