So here’s an interesting chart. Guess what it represents?
A) The membership of the David Duke Fan Club
B) The racial breakdown of the most successful Liberace impersonators
C) The demographics of the Men’s Rights subreddit
Well, ok, that was too easy. It is of course all of the above. I’m guessing. It’s definitely C, at least, as this chart was prepared to show the results of the 2013 Men’s Rights subreddit demographic survey.
Now, you might say, well, isn’t Reddit itself a pretty white place? And you would be right. But the Men’s Rights subreddit seems to be a bit whiter — and a lot less black — than Reddit as a whole, if Quantcast’s estimates of Reddit’s overall ethnic breakdown are accurate.
In other completely non-surprising news, 89% of Men’s Rights Redditors are men. And a lot of them are libertarians. MRAs complain endlessly that we pigeonhole them as a bunch of entitled white dudes. They’re really not doing much to challenge that assumption.
The most important issue to these fellas (and the small minority that aren’t fellas)? Survey says: False rape accusations.
Other critical issues to the Men’s Rightsers include “custody rights” (which is a bit odd because 92% of those surveyed have no kids), “legal discrimination” (whatever that means), “education discrimination” (this is a thing?), and “male disposability.”
“Male birth control” and “paper abortion,” while relatively less important to the Men’s Rightsers, each got hundreds of votes.
I’m surprised “friendzoning” isn’t at the top of the list, but unfortunately it wasn’t one of the choices. I blame misandry.
@SittieKitty That really is the perfect analogy.
RE: chibigodzilla
They’re just getting everything wrong today, aren’t they?
Reddit: where the only black people are Americans.
Roughly speaking, MRAs are a bunch of single young guys who blame society/feminism/women for their problems and inflate any legitimate male concerns that they might stumble upon into hysterical nonsense. But I guess everyone here knew that already …
Theta is so much worse than beta even. Someone should tell them quick so they don’t get mistaken by the Ɑ’s
I keep reading “g0ys” as “non-Jews” (even though the proper plural would be “goyim”…)
Same here, emilygoddess.
Oh, and I don’t see anywhere I can edit my message to include this, but I thought people here might enjoy “this Blue Pill thread about a friendzoning cat.
Hello Dave,
Well, since I’ve been involved in some conversations of late where your name and site came up quite a bit, and since I’m considered by some to be “the Blackest Man of the Manosphere”, I thought to toss my Kangol into the ring.
As both my avi and name suggests, I’m Black and I’ve had a long and interesting relationship with the Manosphere. I’d love to chat and bust it up with your readers on the issues important to PUAs, MRAs, the Manosphere and how all of this relates to Race and Sexual Politics. As you know (but some of your readers may not), I’ve written quite a bit over the years, have my own blog and just recently launched a new blog collective with three other Men, all of whom happen to be White. My most recent piece for The Spearhead took up the question of Charles Ramsey, the Black Man who saved Ms. Amanda Berry from being held prisoner in the home of Mr. Ariel Castro:
Charles Ramsey Proves that it Doesn’t Pay to be a “White Knight”
http://www.the-spearhead.com/2013/05/30/charles-ramsey-proves-that-it-doesnt-pay-to-be-a-white-knight/
I look forward to a lively discussion, as I think I’m uniquely able to speak to these areas of concern with a degree of involvement.
Oh, and I am NOT at all familiar with the MRA Reddit groups. Haven’t read or interacted on them. But I have been active in the wider Manosphere, most notably the Good Men Project, The Spearhead and other smaller blogs.
Thanks!
O.
Damn link! http://www.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comments/1g332t/friendzoned_by_a_cat_help/
Twice as many of them are id’ing as bi rather than gay though. And let me tell you, as a bi guy trying to date bi guys, that just explained a lot of the stupid that gets into my OKC inbox.
Why is child support rated higher on their issue list than alimony?
actually, I haven’t seen recent overall surveys on sexuality. Do 20ish men in general now ID as bi more readily than in earlier generations? Because this is the second small, subpopulation survey I have seen recently where young men were saying they were bi more than gay, which is a very different pattern than what people have found befre, to say the least. …Actually, it seems more similar to the patterns WOMEN have shown.
Looks like my comment is in moderation…
O.
Well, the youthfulness and lack of children certainly explains why these guys are screaming so loud over child support payments. Yeah sure, forking over four hundred a month for two kids sounds like a lot…until you’ve spent five minutes tallying up what the kids actually go through. Starting with the fact that each bedroom likely costs about $100 bucks more (in a really cheap apartment) than a one bedroom apartment. Decent winter gear will nail you for anywhere from $100 to $200 depending on how quick they outgrow their boots and how many hats/scarves/mittens they lose. Don’t even get me started on the seasonal entire new wardrobe cause the kids are splitting seams and how much it costs for basic back to school supplies.
Babysitting a single child while you work a forty hour work week: $1000 per month, minimum.
@LBT: A Manboobz poll! I totally want that!
“They’re just getting everything wrong today, aren’t they?”
Why should today be different?
@SittieKitty: “I don’t know, MRAs pet projects confuse me more than my kitty does when she walks off the couch without meaning to. (As in, she forgets that the couch ends there and just keeps walking.)”
Video! Video!
@Emilygoddess: “I keep reading “g0ys” as “non-Jews” (even though the proper plural would be “goyim”…)”
Me too.
@frilled shark – I think someone (cloudiah?) quoted that great cat friendzoning thing the other day, it’s familiar and I don’t read reddits- I love the comment “(2) REAL ALPHA MEN DON’T FUCKING LIKE THINGS!! EMPATHY is a construct of EVIL FEMINIST BRAINWASHING!!” That parody describes MRAs perfectly, they’ve all had an empathy bypass, I swear.
Noticing this is proof that we hate white men.
Oh, and the libertarian part? My experience with those people is that they’re ‘convenience libertarian,’ i.e. only libertarian when it’s for their benefit. They all have super convenient excuses for getting help from the state. I had a real life argument a couple days ago with an MRA/libertarian I know who’s been on welfare for the past 10+ years, who thinks he pays too much taxes for the gynocracy. I made the mistake of offering evidence-based arguments.
But he’s not a misogynist because Ayn Rand!
David Futrelle
In addition to sexism, I wonder if Racism is also more prevalent among MRA’s than most people.
@LBT: I’m getting the feeling that at some point I did try to read the porn, but have no actual recollection of it. This is probably a good thing.
Ayup. Ever hear them talk about Asian chicks?
I’m weirdly curious about our demographics now.
@emilygoddess
Yeah, what the hell? Poorly done, Reddit survey design people.
Not to mention the whole “thug” thing.
RE: ignotussomnium
Yes. Yes it is. It’s impressively bad, and I’m the guy who soldiered through half of ’50 Shades of Grey’ and innumerable awful fanfictions. I have a highly refined palate for terrible porn.
You read that much of Fifty Shades of Dreck? Cor.