So you all remember The Red Pill subreddit, that wretched hive of scum and misogyny I wrote about the other day, and the other other day, and the other other other day before that. Well, now something even more horrible has sprouted up on Reddit, like genital warts after a night “raw dogging it” with a PUA douchebag.
It’s a new subreddit from the Red Pill masterminds called Red Pill Women.
But wait, you say, isn’t The Red Pill subreddit all about manipulating and exploiting women sexually and generally just being misogynistic douchebags generally? What on earth might a Red Pill subreddit have to offer women?
In a 1400-word “welcome” statement, RedPillSchool, the subreddit’s top mod, tries to explain why the ladies might want to join up.
He starts by laying down some biotruths, by which I mean that he repeats the standard-issue manosphere fairy tale about men and women and the cock carousel:
A man’s biological imperative is to procreate. Some men (the few– less than 20%) are very attractive to women and may take on as many partners as he can. There’s no telling if he’ll stick around to help with the young, but rest assured he’ll make the rounds. Other men aren’t as attractive are happy being providers. This is a majority of men. They want to settle down, have a family. Their biological impulses, believe it or not, is to make a woman happy. It’s both a feature, and as we’ve discovered on /r/theredpill, one of man’s biggest weaknesses.
A woman’s biological imperative is to procreate. (We’re not so different!) Her strategy is slightly different. She wants provisions, but she also wants the highest quality DNA to procreate with. Unfortunately for guys, this sometimes ends up with women having sex with one of the attractive but noncommittal men, and then finding another man to do the provisioning. Her strategy is two-fold: have sex with the highest value males as possible, and get commitment from the highest value males possible. If possible: get both in one man. If not, get both from separate men.
As for those accusastions of misogyny, RedPillSchool responds with a big “nuh-uh!”
It isn’t. The red pill is about accepting reality for what it is. As you’ve seen above, men and women’s mating strategies are at odds with each other, and a lot of men on /r/theredpill are a bit angry. But they’re not angry because this is reality. They’re angry because they spent a majority of their lives being told that this isn’t reality, and putting them at a severe disadvantage.
Oh, so they don’t hate women. They’re just jusifiably angry at them.
Once we embrace what reality is, we find our relationships to be more successful, more fulfilling, and a better deal for ourselves and for the women we’ve dated. We’ve concentrated on what women like, and by doing so have been able to make ourselves into mates that women would want.
Yeah, women love dudes who spend all their time online talking about how awful women are.
So what do Red Pill men want women to do for them?
Sorry, I meant, what can the Red Pill Women subreddit help women to do that will be just fantastic for them, the women?
Well, the past half a century was the march of feminism telling women that they don’t need to do anything for men, that they are perfect and don’t need to change, that change or compromise is oppression, and that you can have it all. A career, kids, family, education- it’s all yours.
The problem is that our culture ended up self indulgent with no long-term goals, and thusly- no long term happiness (at least where family is concerned).
With divorce rates skyrocketing, single motherhood increasing, never-marrieds piling up, and hook-up culture and one night stands at an all time high, people are reaching 35 going.. where’s my family?
Huh. Taking the Red Pill must really do something to your eyesight, because the divorce rate has been heading downwards for the last thirty years.
But let’s just ignore the false premise here and continue on:
Women, you have the ability to find happiness when you embrace the reality of your biological urges and impulses. You have the ability and the requirement to become the optimal mate for your optimal mate. Do not believe the hype that you are good enough how you are, and realize that in life, the only things worth having take work.
Oh dear. So what sort of “self-improvement” advice will the subreddit contain? Apparently, a lot of misogynistic insults. Oh, sorry, harsh truths.
This forum will embarce truth first and foremost, sensitivity be damned. While I encourage people to remain positive towards each other, plain insults are discouraged, I understand that sometimes the truth will seem like an insult.
Ok, so who exactly is qualified to give advice on RedPill women?
RedPillWomen is not the place for men to show up and spout nonsense.
Ok, but you’re a man, and you’re spouting nonsense.
We have an unofficial rule on /r/theredpill that basically amounts to: don’t listen to women about sexual strategy. It’s not that we don’t like women, it’s that women really have a hard time seeing past what they like to understand men have a different palate.
Um, what? Why would this mean that you shouldn’t listen to women?
The same goes for men, perhaps even worse so. Men, being the less discriminating gender, are more-or-less programmed to find women sexy.. no matter what. And when a woman says, “I like to eat pie with my fingers” you’ll have sex-thirsty guys line up out the door willing to say anything for female validation. “I love women who eat with their fingers.”
Wait, did I wander into the wrong subreddit? Why are we talking about pie?
Men will say anything for female validation. Men are utterly and completely blind when it comes to what attracts them. They are clueless. They are conditioned by society to tell you that things we’re supposed to find attractive are attractive. And why not? In our minds, if I find you attractive, and you exhibit certain qualities, it’s hard to isolate which qualities were the ones we found attractive.
Huh?
But you’re not looking for low-hanging-fruit.
Now we’re on to fruit? Was RedPillSchool just really hungry when he wrote this?
You could just walk into a bar with no clothes if you want to make men drool. But instead, you want to make yourself into the woman who will snag the highest value mate. You want to redefine high value to mean longest-term happiness. And you don’t want just any old schmo to drool over you. So don’t take schmo’s advice. It’s terrible.
RedPillSchool, I served with Joe Schmo. I knew Joe Schmo. Joe Schmo was a friend of mine. RedPillSchool, you’re no Joe Schmo.
Welcome! I hope this will be a productive place to discuss sexual strategy for women.
I can’t wait to see what sort of “sexual strategy” these guys advocate. Maybe we can assemble a list of some of the best suggestions.
Meanwhile, that white supremacist dude who thinks that women who hate the Red Pill dudes are all secretly into them — that guy I wrote about the other day — is already excited to see a subreddit of Red Pill “cheerleaders.”
It looks like TheRedPill Mannerbund, which at first only attracted TheBluePill hecklers, has now attracted some cheerleaders.
Perhaps a sorority forming next to the fraternity.
Notice TheRedPill kept the women out (at least female centric opinion, since this is virtual space) and now we see the reaction: submit and service.
My opponents of course could only interpret “service” as sexual, which is was partly but not completely. The women are no longer heckling the mannerbund, but have adopted the mannerbund’s agenda – they have become cheerleaders.
What he doesn’t know is that one of those cheerleaders is me — I just subscribed. Let’s see if they notice and ban me.
The Blue Pill squad is on the case as well, with a bunch of posts devoted to this exciting new development.
RE: God’s Fool
Seriously, MRAL, the ‘antichrist agenda’? You aren’t even trying anymore. I was raised on the glory days of NWO and DKM, and even I can’t buy it.
It’s okay though, the police box can go anywhere in space and time.
Seriously God’s Fool, do you enjoy eating word salad? Because you sure have vomited out a whole lot of it just now.
@God’s Fool: Could you repeat all that, because all I a saw was a huge word salad and something about Orwellian Christmas Police. Try it again, but this time using sentences that convey coherent thoughts about actual things. Kthxbye.
“The patriarchy and the Christian one-man one-woman family structure would still be in good shape today if the patriarchy had respected their white cis heterosexual female allies more, as is being done now with white cis heterosexual women taking leadership of many socially conservative groups.”
FTFY. Though fit non-disabled, not poor, not sex workers and “only those who want kids” in there. Your “one-man one-woman” straight up intentionally excludes everyone interested in a pairing that isn’t cis-man/cis-woman. And conservatives ignore the disabled except to claim “good works” points for charity (and trust me here, “I’m so noble I work with those people” isn’t earning you their respect), regularly make the poor and middle class worse off, treat sex work as an immoral abomination (you know, exactly the same argument you’re trying to use against feminists in regards to hijabs?)
And here I was having a good day, complete with a very coherent argument how software piracy is good for society (in very short, more copies means more likely to survive — everything that survived Alexandria was a copy, many of them covertly [illegally] made)
“It’s okay though, the police box can go anywhere in space and time”
Here’s your TARDIS blue internet, watch out for cracks!
You know things are bad when two people in a row independently conclude the phrase “word salad” is the most accurate way to describe something you wrote.
Marie, Zanana t.P.Q.:
Am now having really good ideas about how to fund my extravagant lifestyle. (Buying all those peanuts all the time can really add up.) Kickstarter!
But would that make me a gold-digger? Will have to ask the ferrinati/ferrinazis.
Sir and I garden in matching jeans, green wellies and tatty purple tee shirts. What this lot will never figure out is that fun = sexy often enough. 🙂
Manboobz: come for the misogyny-mockery, stay for the unintentional absurdist humor and subsequent smackdowns of such.
The Furrinati will be pleased- you can afford treats without leaving the house (and them) for the thing humans refer to as “work”.
Hey, here’s a shocker: the Men’s Rights subreddit is full of white, childless, single, straight, cis, hetero men!
I know, I know, take some time to regulate your breathing.
Am I the only one who is so used to MRAL that I didn’t start cracking up until the horrible mis-spelling of Phyllis Schlafly? I mean, I’ve you’re going to tell us that she’s the solution to all of our problems, you could maybe direct us there by spelling her name correctly.
Note: Schlafly is the solution to no problems.
[I’ve]* “if”
Sigh, the mis-spelling sprites grab us all, but I think my point remains. That wasn’t even a try.
It is a combo of Schlafly and Shillelagh, because listening to her talk makes me feel like someone attacked me with a club.
“Manboobz: come for the misogyny-mockery, stay for the unintentional absurdist humor and subsequent smackdowns of such.”
Katz, cloudiah, remind me which of you is behind Artistry for Feminism. And Kittens? Because that so needs to be added to the “come for the mockery, stay for the…” list.
And sorry you two, too many spinoff joke blogs to keep track of who’s behind which!
katz is behind Pierre (which is actually original content); I am behind Artistry, which is completely parasitical.
And I’ve bookmarked guffaw-ferrets’ Man Boobz endorsement. 😀
Surprisingly, Antichrist Agenda is not already the name of a metal band. Unsurprisingly, if you google “Antichrist Agenda band”, Marilyn Manson is one of the first results.
Pre-bed addition to the “oh th things I’ve seen” list — Chihuly glass.
I knew katz was Pierre’s artist, but other than that? *throws hands in air, walks out*
Anti-anti-
MRALmanboobz is katz too?@Lady Mondegreen – Oh, you recognized the similarities to Norman’s yammerings too?
Manboobzers! OMG! This is totally off topic for this thread, but I must share:
I was watching a war movie tonight, and in a scene with some soldiers talking I hear someone say, “thousand yard stare.” Holy shit, I say to myself, “thousand cock stare!”
Thousand yard stare:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thousand_yard_stare
So I guess an individual with the thousand-cock-stare has seen such heavy cock-combat that they have, like, developed PTSD–from all the cocks! Like they were riding around too long on that cock-merry-go-round thing, but instead of a merry-go-round it’s some kind of war. Presto: it’s the Thousand-cock-stare!
If their writing style is based on Norman then everything suddenly makes sense. The big words they don’t know how to use properly, the pretentiousness, the constant suspicion that the writer is wanking as they compose their latest rant, the complete refusal to edit…
@pecunium
Nope, not me.
@kittehserf
kittehserf, it wasn’t easy. I was wrapped up like a douche, another rumor in the night. But I got over it.
@Lilli Fugit: I know. They keep saying that men and women just happen to be this way or that because science, and then still claim that women are bad and ought to change. Look, either we’re programmed to be a certain why by our stone age genes, men and women alike, and there’s no point in arguing that we ought to be different, meaning men ought to just accept that women ride the cock carousel and look for a beta as a mere provider and yada yada. Or else it’s possible to change, but in that case it’s really not clear why merely women ought to do so; why not make men change into being perfectly okay with marrying a slut for instance? According to their own theory, being okay with marrying a slut ought to increase your chances of happiness, right, since most women are such cock-carousel-riding slutty sluts? If “beta” men were even to develop a cuckolding fetish, they’d be happy with their wife cheating on them with “alphas” too, so why is there no red pill advice to that effect?
@God’s Fool, you also gotta stop confusing us with every feminist ever. I know there are feminists who basically argue that if you put on a veil you gotta be brain-washed somehow since no woman could seriously want to dress like that, but I dare you to show a quote from any of the regulars here or David himself to that effect.