This won’t be news to a lot of you — I’m a little late getting to it — but our old pal Tom Martin, the repulsive British MRA celebrity, is actually going ahead with the somewhat baffling video “women and comedy” project he was babbling about in the comments here many months ago, when he was still allowed to comment here. Well, “actually going ahead with it” this August if he can get anyone else to agree to work for him for free minimum wage.
The documentary project is called “Laughing with Women” and, Martin explains, it will “investigat[e] if gold-digging impairs women’s joke-making ability, and if, when women reject gold-digging in all its forms, they can become instantly funnier.”
In case that didn’t make sense to you — don’t worry, that’s a completely natural reaction — Tom explains his, er, “logic” a bit further in a jobs listing he’s posted in hopes of finding a crew, which has already gotten a good deal of ridicule over at PZ Myers’ and on at least one comedy website.
Why are women, on average, slightly less funny than men? Does gold-digging in particular impede women’s joke-making ability? When women publicly reject gold-digging, do they become as funny, or even funnier than men?
In his numerous visits to Man Boobz, Martin expounded at length on the topic of gold-digging women, generally referring to them by his preferred term, the shorter and blunter “whores.” Martin has previously estimated that roughly 97% of women fit this description, and has suggested that female penguins are also whores. Frankly, once he gets going on the topic, it’s hard to shut him up, which is partly why he’s no longer welcome in the comments here.
In any case, this odd hypothesis will be tested, Martin says, with a “radical, and revealing street-based social experiment.”
Still puzzled? Mike Booth, the British video comedian behind SomeGreyBloke and Dan Cardamon, has managed to tease out a few more details from Martin (posting here as sexismBusters):
Martin is confident that his proposed video will blow the lid off this whole “women and gold-digging and comedy, no really, they’re connected” thing:
If the radical, and revealing street-based social experiment at the centre of our documentary proves gold-digging does make women less funny (as pre-production research suggests) then our findings will make headlines around the world, our film’s two minute teaser trailer attached to all those news and blog articles (Update: this advert alone has already been blogged and tweeted about by outraged PC types).
The full documentary will be shot to a broadcast-quality standard and format, giving mainstream television companies worldwide the opportunity to purchase broadcasting rights (if they’re feeling brave enough) whilst we maintain a virtually guaranteed revenue stream from our already established hardcore of supporters and fans within the non PC gender equality field around the world, who, along with everyone else, will be able to enjoy Laughing with Women on newly launched pay-per-view channel, Vimeo on Demand (VoD) – where VoD itself takes a very modest 10% cut. The documentary has the potential to be translated into several languages – gold-digging a familiar if hidden story in every country, until now.
In other words, it sounds like some sort of video gold mine.
So I’d recommend that all gold-digging women out there try to get in on the ground floor of this Tom Martin dude.
Oh, and speaking of Dan Cardamon, here’s the faux MRA’s take on the project:
CORRECTION: This post originally stated that Martin wouldnt’ be paying his crew, but he says he will be paying them minimum wage, so I’ve corrected the relevant passage above.
EDITED TO ADD: Tom has shown up in the comments, and I’m letting his comments through (for now at least), so if you have any questions for him, feel free to head to the comments to address him directly.
Fistbump me, girl.
Tom’s a wannabe (at least) rapist? Colour me surprised.
Funny how the sex information I’ve read from an actual scientist and sex educator (thedirtynormal.com) totally contradicts everything Tom and his alleged guru (CITATION FUCKING NEEDED TOMMY) and all the other rapistwannabes says.
Let me guess, his guru is some sort of PUA. I doubt it’d be Fartiste or Roosh, since the only orgasms they’ve any interest in are their own, and in Roosh’s case even that’s secondary to causing distress. In other words – even if said guru exists, he’s just as much a liar and abuser/wannabe abuser as Tommy himself.
Shiraz – ::fistbump::
😀
Based on his posts, he ignores the discomfort of women — while referring to female orgasms as if they are a thing of myth and legend.
Yeah, kitteh! 🙂
Correlation is causation in this case (assuming Tommy’s ever gotten closer to a woman than rubbing up against her on the Underground).
Fuck, I missed that comment. I wish he’d go back to hard chairs and female whore penguins, he used to be funny, now he’s just sickening.
Any of the be-penis’ed who make a habit of inserting said organ into vaginae (I have no idea if that’s the plural) care to tell wannabe rapist that he’s wrong in practice as well as theory? Cuz Tom, you’re Very Very Wrong. Women are quite capable of “yes, I like that, more of that” or “I like [thing], let’s do [thing]”.
And, you know, even if your partner isn’t? You aren’t compatible, get a new fuckbuddy, don’t just insist you know what she likes and continue ramming it into her after she tells you to stop BECAUSE THAT’S FUCKING RAPE!
Oh and you may want to do some proper research, the existence of the mythical g-spot is far from proven. The clitoris definitively exists though and many women (and others with them) enjoy having them stimulated. Once you have permission to do so, and plenty can even tell you how they like said stimulation to occur!
In short, I’m questioning whether you’re half as experienced as you seem to be claiming, or just a terrible lover.
If you go into it with the attitude that a woman’s orgasm is your prize, you’re going to fuck it up every fucking time. If you think a woman’s orgasm is yours to have, you’re a fucking rapist. You fuck. If someone is kicking at you, you fucking stop, or you’re a fucking rapist.
Tom, you’re a fucking rapist.
Kitteh — now now, I’m sure he has female relatives he got hugs and such from when he was a wee one.
That whole g-spot thing reminds me of Pell, the teenager who believes there’s such thing as a mature/vaginal orgasm. And even he wasn’t a fucking rapist.
He’s a terrible lover, obviously, argenti.
Not in the least experienced, I’m betting. Never been in the presence of a woman’s orgasm in his life, even if he has had sex.
And he’ll never be any sort of lover, unless fapping counts. There’s no love in him.
Is there a connection between the bit about “ignoring her apparent discomfort” and “seeking recompense for bad sex”?
PS has Tom ever tried having sex on a hard chair?
Argenti – well, “since he was about ten years old” then, ‘cos it wouldn’t altogether surprise me if Tommy’s creepslimery started manifesting really early.
That “apparent discomfort” is telling, given the word’s two meanings. Apparent as in “it is apparent that,” meaning it’s clear and obvious; and apparent as in “I’m so incapable of seeing women as human that I can’t even accept the obvious signs of physical pain as being real.”
Yeah, I took “apparent” to mean clear and obvious, didn’t think of the other meaning :/
Right, it’s like someone who sticks pins in bugs, and says there is “apparent discomfort” (without really believing he’s causing pain to another living creature for his amusement).
So me, I’m voting for voting Tom off the fucking island, never to comment again. My vote doesn’t count, but there it is.
“They tell me this means a woman is in pain but I don’t see it at all. Those are just random vocalisations.”
It’s right up there with that burn-in-hell piece of shit Descartes with his “animals have no souls and therefore can’t feel pain and therefore it’s perfectly fine and even amusing to torture them” foulness.
(I’m assuming Descartes has since figured out how evil that thinking was, but his earthly self’s notions still fill me with rage.)
cloudiah – yeah, I agree. Tommy just digs deeper into the pit every time he comments.
Tom’s attempts to blame his lack of sexual skills on other people continue to amuse me.
Tommy Boy: Thanks Pecunium, for all that info about consent. From what I’ve read, we’re covered.
So you got consent, in advance; with a clear explanation of what was being tested. You told them their faces, names, etc. would be shown; and got secondary consent for that. You gave them contact information; and a timeframe in which they could withdraw their consent.
You did all that?
I don’t believe you. I think you are telling bald-faced lies
Then again, I think this ever changing documentary (which you claim to be paying people for) is a myth. So I suspect any women who might have spoken to your lying ass, are pretty much safe from being part of you making a greater laughingstock of yourself than you have already done.
Tommy: I suspect you look for google-boo too much. I opened a private window and it took three pages to get to your unsupported drivel in the Guardian about how there is not patriarchy because you think women dominate men in interpersonal relationships and that trumps social inequities.
I saw what you did there
Oh good, you already made this one. So you can prove that it exists–and, bonus, prove how awesome you are at picking up chicks–by simply posting it and linking us to it. C’mon, should only take a second and it’ll help spread your message.