This won’t be news to a lot of you — I’m a little late getting to it — but our old pal Tom Martin, the repulsive British MRA celebrity, is actually going ahead with the somewhat baffling video “women and comedy” project he was babbling about in the comments here many months ago, when he was still allowed to comment here. Well, “actually going ahead with it” this August if he can get anyone else to agree to work for him for free minimum wage.
The documentary project is called “Laughing with Women” and, Martin explains, it will “investigat[e] if gold-digging impairs women’s joke-making ability, and if, when women reject gold-digging in all its forms, they can become instantly funnier.”
In case that didn’t make sense to you — don’t worry, that’s a completely natural reaction — Tom explains his, er, “logic” a bit further in a jobs listing he’s posted in hopes of finding a crew, which has already gotten a good deal of ridicule over at PZ Myers’ and on at least one comedy website.
Why are women, on average, slightly less funny than men? Does gold-digging in particular impede women’s joke-making ability? When women publicly reject gold-digging, do they become as funny, or even funnier than men?
In his numerous visits to Man Boobz, Martin expounded at length on the topic of gold-digging women, generally referring to them by his preferred term, the shorter and blunter “whores.” Martin has previously estimated that roughly 97% of women fit this description, and has suggested that female penguins are also whores. Frankly, once he gets going on the topic, it’s hard to shut him up, which is partly why he’s no longer welcome in the comments here.
In any case, this odd hypothesis will be tested, Martin says, with a “radical, and revealing street-based social experiment.”
Still puzzled? Mike Booth, the British video comedian behind SomeGreyBloke and Dan Cardamon, has managed to tease out a few more details from Martin (posting here as sexismBusters):
Martin is confident that his proposed video will blow the lid off this whole “women and gold-digging and comedy, no really, they’re connected” thing:
If the radical, and revealing street-based social experiment at the centre of our documentary proves gold-digging does make women less funny (as pre-production research suggests) then our findings will make headlines around the world, our film’s two minute teaser trailer attached to all those news and blog articles (Update: this advert alone has already been blogged and tweeted about by outraged PC types).
The full documentary will be shot to a broadcast-quality standard and format, giving mainstream television companies worldwide the opportunity to purchase broadcasting rights (if they’re feeling brave enough) whilst we maintain a virtually guaranteed revenue stream from our already established hardcore of supporters and fans within the non PC gender equality field around the world, who, along with everyone else, will be able to enjoy Laughing with Women on newly launched pay-per-view channel, Vimeo on Demand (VoD) – where VoD itself takes a very modest 10% cut. The documentary has the potential to be translated into several languages – gold-digging a familiar if hidden story in every country, until now.
In other words, it sounds like some sort of video gold mine.
So I’d recommend that all gold-digging women out there try to get in on the ground floor of this Tom Martin dude.
Oh, and speaking of Dan Cardamon, here’s the faux MRA’s take on the project:
CORRECTION: This post originally stated that Martin wouldnt’ be paying his crew, but he says he will be paying them minimum wage, so I’ve corrected the relevant passage above.
EDITED TO ADD: Tom has shown up in the comments, and I’m letting his comments through (for now at least), so if you have any questions for him, feel free to head to the comments to address him directly.
In light of Tom’s latest comment, I would encourage readers here to make fun of his baldness as much as possible.
Baldist? LOL, Tommy thinks he’s Larry David, but without the funny.
Do you even read what you write?
I really don’t give a shit what you look like.
I see that you are hoping people will pay to see your documentary. How many viewers will it take to cover the production costs?
I know men who’re bald.
Looking at my hairline and doing some basic math while staring at my dad tells me I’ll probably join them sooner or later.
So, y’know, I don’t hold being bald against Tom.
He’s a hateful bigot doing his best to make life worse for women.
That I hold against him.
David,
Fatness is (largely) self-inflicted. Here’s Ricky Gervais about why fat jokes are okay
For another guideline on why baldness jokes aren’t okay, consider, we don’t make jokes about bald women. Even though female pattern baldness is more effected by environmental factors like bad lifestyle choices than male baldness, we still don’t make fun of it.
You brought up your fatness and you being okay with jokes about it, so I made a joke about it. A proper joke (a version of it scored 3 points on Sickipedia). I didn’t bludgeon you with a blunt fat slur at the point of running out of argument, which is what your followers are doing in this discussion, with baldist comments, which I’ve established with my argument (which you’re currently avoiding) are insults (which should be) morally far less acceptable than calling someone fat due to indiscriminate over-eating.
Making insults about a man’s baldness is about as acceptable as making insults about someone’s sexuality, height, or race.
Plenty of ARGUMENTS there for you to chew on!
I don’t hold his baldness against him. I mean, who the fuck cares? Most men end up bald or balding eventually.
But he’s a hateful shithead, and mentioning his baldness sends him into a frothing rage, so, you know, there’s that.
as someone who has read his twitter feed, I agree with this completely.
Yeah, but female penguins also send him into a frothing rage.
He has the oddest triggers.
p.s. I am one of the many women who find bald men sexy. However, that is more than cancelled out when those baldies are overgrown man-children who hate women and have an insipid sense of humor.
It’s almost as if personality counts.
I know some wonderful bald men. Tommy isn’t one of them.
lolwut? Living in the city is “heinous behavior?” That’s a new one to me.
Sentence fragment, consider revising.
It’s hard not to hold every little detail about Tom in contempt, because the odiousness tends to bleed over from his actions onto those details.
Next I’m going to start being suspicious of all men-from-certain-geographical-areas.
Which is a shame, because dammitall, Idris Elba needs to be in ALL the movies from now on.
Yes David, injustice makes my angry.
The difference is, fat jibes might make you slim.
Baldness jibes will not motivate me to get my hair back because no amount of diet, exercise or medical intervention can get my hair back (as I just explained again), and so can only marginalize me (and all other bald men) further.
You are intelligent enough to get this, so I’ll leave it there until you issue a general edict, that baldness jokes (against either gender) are not okay.
The documentary will be looking at the differing nature of jokes between the genders, including the tendency of low intelligence women to make blunt physical slurs against men, then laugh at it as if it is funny.
This is a medium intelligence blog though, so I expect higher standards.
Idris Elba should be in all the things.
Sometimes I am struck by what great character studies MRAs would be if they were fictional. A little monologue like this reveals so much about the character, especially at the end where he just peters out, having completely forgotten that he was saying anything other than a list of things that are terrible about baldness.
Brandon will always be the best example, though.
@Howard
Not necessarily. Baldness comes from your mother’s genes, so you’d want to look at her father and other close male relatives.
Sadly, the story is even more distressing there.
Plus, my one-year-older-than-me brother is working on the total baldness at an accelerated rate. (it may be that having kids has added stress, though)
I’d have the classic receding hairline profile except for this stubborn tuft where I used to have a widow’s peak. The follicles hang on, hoisting their protein strands proudly into the air like any number of fibrous middle fingers.
At some point the fascist police state will have to move in and mow them down, after the failing Combover Initiative has finally petered out.
Mwahaha, I’m on estrogen, motherfuckers! My hairline is IMMUTABLE! (Well, for now. It’ll probably thin as I age, like most folks.)
I think my favorite part of these recent comments is when Tom went straight from whining about “bald shaming” to calling David fat. With a joke about organs I think he’s used before. Way to blow yourself up, dude.
Hey, could you budge over into that sunbeam? My corner’s dark and I can’t see my (totally volunteer) Page 3 woman. Where are you going? Don’t you want to help me add five years to my life?!
@LBT: Watch out on that estrogen. I heard about somebody who was on the Estro and totally flipped out and rearranged someone’s flower garden for them 😛
Tommy-boy mewled: Annoying Pecunium, isn’t it. Now imagine how annoying it would be if the statement I just put in your mouth was one that wasn’t actually true.
Even more annoying, I’m sure you can imagine, so stop doing it to me you bumhole.
Not annoying at all.
It’s a technique known as paraphrase (I’ve just given you a chance to improve on your autodidacticism, you may thank me later). I didn’t attribute those ideas to your mouth, but rather your mode of thought.
And, as it’s fundamentally true (what with your, “renouce prostitution in all it’s forms” and, “penguins are prostitutes” bullshit), I can see why you dislike it being distilled to its essence.
Get used to it.
So you lied to them, and got releases under false pretenses.
Is your, “professor” going to append his name to this violation of professional ethics?
I’d wager he won’t. Which will undermine any pretense of validity to the Operational Definition, much less any preconcieved conclusions you pretend this validates.
The performance of all the women, whether they signed a release form or not, will be considered in the data.
So the informed consent required to have a valid study is void.
Yeah, that “professor” is gonna bail (assuming you actually had one).
In a sea of shit right now, I need the encouragement.
I can send you a millstone pendant, all expenses paid.
Pecunium,
Release forms were signed only after the participants had been debriefed about the actual nature of the experiment. Also, we filmed the debriefing, and signing, to insure that no one can accuse us of twisting their arm to sign.
On an unrelated issue, good news! An internet site which will remain nameless for the time being, would like to interview me about my idea that we should save page 3, because viewing large breasts is extremely good for men’s health – but that the models should volunteer to have their boobs out on the page, making it a celebration of beauty, not prostitution.
I argue that feminists should get their tits out too, for the good of the land. Manboobzers, feel free to post pictures of your own boobs on this thread (heads optional).
Tommy: Release forms were signed only after the participants had been debriefed about the actual nature of the experiment. Also, we filmed the debriefing, and signing, to insure that no one can accuse us of twisting their arm to sign.
Which still violates the required informed consent prior to the experiment required for all research with human subjects (but it’s nice to see you have an alert set to let you know when this thread gets new comment; must do something to brighten your day, better than hoping there’s not another dunning notice from LSE).
Oh, and Tommy, have some boobies:
And a one, and a two
Letting it all hang out