This won’t be news to a lot of you — I’m a little late getting to it — but our old pal Tom Martin, the repulsive British MRA celebrity, is actually going ahead with the somewhat baffling video “women and comedy” project he was babbling about in the comments here many months ago, when he was still allowed to comment here. Well, “actually going ahead with it” this August if he can get anyone else to agree to work for him for free minimum wage.
The documentary project is called “Laughing with Women” and, Martin explains, it will “investigat[e] if gold-digging impairs women’s joke-making ability, and if, when women reject gold-digging in all its forms, they can become instantly funnier.”
In case that didn’t make sense to you — don’t worry, that’s a completely natural reaction — Tom explains his, er, “logic” a bit further in a jobs listing he’s posted in hopes of finding a crew, which has already gotten a good deal of ridicule over at PZ Myers’ and on at least one comedy website.
Why are women, on average, slightly less funny than men? Does gold-digging in particular impede women’s joke-making ability? When women publicly reject gold-digging, do they become as funny, or even funnier than men?
In his numerous visits to Man Boobz, Martin expounded at length on the topic of gold-digging women, generally referring to them by his preferred term, the shorter and blunter “whores.” Martin has previously estimated that roughly 97% of women fit this description, and has suggested that female penguins are also whores. Frankly, once he gets going on the topic, it’s hard to shut him up, which is partly why he’s no longer welcome in the comments here.
In any case, this odd hypothesis will be tested, Martin says, with a “radical, and revealing street-based social experiment.”
Still puzzled? Mike Booth, the British video comedian behind SomeGreyBloke and Dan Cardamon, has managed to tease out a few more details from Martin (posting here as sexismBusters):
Martin is confident that his proposed video will blow the lid off this whole “women and gold-digging and comedy, no really, they’re connected” thing:
If the radical, and revealing street-based social experiment at the centre of our documentary proves gold-digging does make women less funny (as pre-production research suggests) then our findings will make headlines around the world, our film’s two minute teaser trailer attached to all those news and blog articles (Update: this advert alone has already been blogged and tweeted about by outraged PC types).
The full documentary will be shot to a broadcast-quality standard and format, giving mainstream television companies worldwide the opportunity to purchase broadcasting rights (if they’re feeling brave enough) whilst we maintain a virtually guaranteed revenue stream from our already established hardcore of supporters and fans within the non PC gender equality field around the world, who, along with everyone else, will be able to enjoy Laughing with Women on newly launched pay-per-view channel, Vimeo on Demand (VoD) – where VoD itself takes a very modest 10% cut. The documentary has the potential to be translated into several languages – gold-digging a familiar if hidden story in every country, until now.
In other words, it sounds like some sort of video gold mine.
So I’d recommend that all gold-digging women out there try to get in on the ground floor of this Tom Martin dude.
Oh, and speaking of Dan Cardamon, here’s the faux MRA’s take on the project:
CORRECTION: This post originally stated that Martin wouldnt’ be paying his crew, but he says he will be paying them minimum wage, so I’ve corrected the relevant passage above.
EDITED TO ADD: Tom has shown up in the comments, and I’m letting his comments through (for now at least), so if you have any questions for him, feel free to head to the comments to address him directly.
So… that’s… good? Or is that bad? Or is that neither? Or… I’ve lost track.
Ooh, please hurry up and post that trailer! Or at least a little raw footage. C’mon, give us a taste, won’t you? We got so burned by that misandry in video games crowdfunding campaign that just took the money and ran; don’t do the same to us!
And Martin invents another way to say whore!
Is your bony butt making you cranky? Cuz we can create a cushion fund.
Tommy’s back with delusions of relevance! Can’t wait to see the shit show you piece together, Tommy.
“The number of women applying to participate in the film’s production was pitiful.
Feminism is virtually non-existent on the street.”
There might be other reasons feminist women wouldn’t want participate in your project besides being non-existent.
You know, our dear friend Tom Martin’s use of the word princesstitute reminds me of the time I was commissioned to draw one! Specifically, it was a friend of a friend who apparently liked to portray herself on the podcast as a princesstitute assassin. So I drew her with three tiaras, a big floofy pink dress with a nice plunging neckline, and two daggers.
I dare say, she looked quite lovely and cool by the end of it. But somehow, I doubt Mr. Martin would agree.
Tommy is also arguing that “Page 3 girls” should be baring their breasts for free, otherwise they are, of course, prostitutes.
http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1kku0b/feminists_want_to_ban_page_3_breasts_viewing/
This is the worst “gotcha!” attempt I’ve ever seen.
Sure, Tom, the fact that few women wanted to be part of your project definitely reflects poorly on women as a whole.
I cannot roll my eyes enough.
Hey Tommy, how’s it going showing your racist as well as misogynistic douchebag arse all over the place? Proud of yourself, are you? You really are a contemptible specimen, you know that?
Summary of the Page 3 argument? Because I can’t be bothered reading Tom’s drivel, but my initial reaction is “good luck with that, mate”.
I want him to start walking up to random women and telling them they’re whores if they won’t show him their boobs, just to see how many times he gets punched.
Summary? Femism sucks. And Martin said this:
“I know. Viewing female breasts is probably good for women’s health too.
Wouldn’t it be nice if media personalities got their boobs out on page 3, for free, to say “I’m a celebrity [for my personality and expertise in whatever field] – but on a separate note, here I am with my boobs out, because I want to share them with the world – for free!”
Rather than the typical page 3 model now, who is more “I’m an airhead bimbo who was thinking about being a hooker, but then I got this page 3 gig where I’m getting my boobs out for a few hundred pounds, leading to several thousand more off the back of it, and here’s my best fake smile.”
Feminists should be campaigning for Page 3 models to get no payment. MRAs should also.”
Flashing by proxy for wanking strangers is supposed to be good for women’s health? And our bodies are supposedly the property of all those strangers, and it’s good for us to feed their fantasies?
Chalk up another piece of fail for Slimy Tommy, who’s probably never going to see breasts other than those of page 3 girls or porn actresses (probably the latter, since he can download porn free and it costs money to buy one of Rupert’s rags).
Maybe he thinks that women breathe through our nipples and thus we’re in danger of suffocation if we don’t flash them occasionally.
Sort of like Tommy breathes through his arse?
That’s why he can’t just put a cushion on his chair! It all makes sense now.
Laughing, too, hard. You’re killing me over here!
Tommy’s arguments boil down to the idea that every one needs to do everything for free.
That, or (big surprise) he thinks women are some sort of public property.
Naw, not everyone, he should get paid for his videos after all, just people with breasts. Or really, considering who we’re talking about, cis women. *refuses to think of Martin’s thoughts on non-cis folks*
To recap, I said those women who want to VOLUNTEER to show their breasts for free on Page 3 should be celebrated, and should celebrate doing it.
And men too!
Like smiling to show off great healthy teeth – what could be more natural than going topless to celebrate your great healthy physique?
In the proposed system above, no one is being victimized or exploited – so it’s probably not for everyone – but judging by the comments on Reddit and the Indy’s v-fem article itself – the majority seem to get it.
The Guardian’s Ally Fogg has retweeted this idea of mine too.
I suppose it’s a bit too credible for manboobz to do a whole article on though.
If he can find an angle to lampoon the idea, then maybe it is news to him. I dunno.
Argenti: That would be the “women are public property” aspect. Because his “definition” of whore is, “a woman got paid for something”.
Is this about the Sun girls? That’s still around? I thought that woulda died out by now
Pecunium said:
“I Make things up then place them in inverted commas to make it seem like Tom said it, or implied it, when he didn’t.”
Annoying Pecunium, isn’t it. Now imagine how annoying it would be if the statement I just put in your mouth was one that wasn’t actually true.
Even more annoying, I’m sure you can imagine, so stop doing it to me you bumhole.
Cmon, Tom, I want to see your teaser!
I love it when Tom throws tantrums. Since he looks like a baby anyway I always picture him shaking his rattle in infantile rage.
“Bumhole”
Ooh, look, Tommy used a bad word!
Or thought he did.