This won’t be news to a lot of you — I’m a little late getting to it — but our old pal Tom Martin, the repulsive British MRA celebrity, is actually going ahead with the somewhat baffling video “women and comedy” project he was babbling about in the comments here many months ago, when he was still allowed to comment here. Well, “actually going ahead with it” this August if he can get anyone else to agree to work for him for free minimum wage.
The documentary project is called “Laughing with Women” and, Martin explains, it will “investigat[e] if gold-digging impairs women’s joke-making ability, and if, when women reject gold-digging in all its forms, they can become instantly funnier.”
In case that didn’t make sense to you — don’t worry, that’s a completely natural reaction — Tom explains his, er, “logic” a bit further in a jobs listing he’s posted in hopes of finding a crew, which has already gotten a good deal of ridicule over at PZ Myers’ and on at least one comedy website.
Why are women, on average, slightly less funny than men? Does gold-digging in particular impede women’s joke-making ability? When women publicly reject gold-digging, do they become as funny, or even funnier than men?
In his numerous visits to Man Boobz, Martin expounded at length on the topic of gold-digging women, generally referring to them by his preferred term, the shorter and blunter “whores.” Martin has previously estimated that roughly 97% of women fit this description, and has suggested that female penguins are also whores. Frankly, once he gets going on the topic, it’s hard to shut him up, which is partly why he’s no longer welcome in the comments here.
In any case, this odd hypothesis will be tested, Martin says, with a “radical, and revealing street-based social experiment.”
Still puzzled? Mike Booth, the British video comedian behind SomeGreyBloke and Dan Cardamon, has managed to tease out a few more details from Martin (posting here as sexismBusters):
Martin is confident that his proposed video will blow the lid off this whole “women and gold-digging and comedy, no really, they’re connected” thing:
If the radical, and revealing street-based social experiment at the centre of our documentary proves gold-digging does make women less funny (as pre-production research suggests) then our findings will make headlines around the world, our film’s two minute teaser trailer attached to all those news and blog articles (Update: this advert alone has already been blogged and tweeted about by outraged PC types).
The full documentary will be shot to a broadcast-quality standard and format, giving mainstream television companies worldwide the opportunity to purchase broadcasting rights (if they’re feeling brave enough) whilst we maintain a virtually guaranteed revenue stream from our already established hardcore of supporters and fans within the non PC gender equality field around the world, who, along with everyone else, will be able to enjoy Laughing with Women on newly launched pay-per-view channel, Vimeo on Demand (VoD) – where VoD itself takes a very modest 10% cut. The documentary has the potential to be translated into several languages – gold-digging a familiar if hidden story in every country, until now.
In other words, it sounds like some sort of video gold mine.
So I’d recommend that all gold-digging women out there try to get in on the ground floor of this Tom Martin dude.
Oh, and speaking of Dan Cardamon, here’s the faux MRA’s take on the project:
CORRECTION: This post originally stated that Martin wouldnt’ be paying his crew, but he says he will be paying them minimum wage, so I’ve corrected the relevant passage above.
EDITED TO ADD: Tom has shown up in the comments, and I’m letting his comments through (for now at least), so if you have any questions for him, feel free to head to the comments to address him directly.
Well I think you should demand your money back.
Wait, autodidacticism…he’s the professor! He presented the study to himself, approved it, and will then give himself a good grade on it and award himself a degree.
Maybe we should make him sleep in boxing gloves. He’s obviously wanking too much.
Oven mitts Falconer, oven mitts! (Oh goodness…your wee ones won’t have to deal with chickenpox, you may never need to know the oven mitt thing. Wow.)
“And it exports as, say, Q23.3, which is answer option 3 to question 23. And then the column has the flippin’ words of the answer in it without a header! I already put headers on the columns, but it’s still words = checked it, no words = didn’t.”
Makes perfect sense 😉 Hopefully this won’t lead to new damages on my computer table …
Oh it makes sense, just wait until you’re looking at 1,500+ rows of it! (1,546 currently)
I love the varicella vaccine! The other new vaccine I love is Rotateq, for rotavirus. They didn’t have it when my first son was little, so he had rotavirus. It was a very nasty disease. We are lucky to be able to buy Pedialyte and keep him hydrated so he wouldn’t have to be hospitalized. They had the vaccine by the time my second son was a baby, and he never had to suffer like that. Paul Offit is my hero.
*shakes fist at universe* remember how 2013 was way behind the polio cases for 2012? The Horn of Africa is having an outbreak, mostly in Somalia, which has shitty access for immunization. Come on world, these are kids we’re talking about here!
*sigh* and here I was just thinking that I love data. I no love this data.
It’s so frustrating how it’s been two steps forward one step back in the effort to eradicate polio. I’m optimistic that it won’t be much longer though.
Yep, HM, in need of another session by the sounds of it, is upset, or doesn’t get, why a person would study sexual response, attraction, humour etc – it’s all too weird for her.
We’ve just discovered (when I say ‘we’ I mean men have just discovered, for the benefit of all humanity), in the last 20 years, that for instance, contrary to popular believe, women are as promiscuous as men, that every verbal noise a woman makes during sex is fake, that women masturbate more when in a relationship with a man than when not (finishing themselves off), that men are the ones searching for big dicks in porn, not women – and HM thinks I should study something else. If we had that attitude, HM, we’d still be thinking your vagina and comic sensibility were delicate little flowers we should never be forceful with – and how many laughs or orgasms would that get you? Zero.
Yes HM, it is true that some men do have a problem with funny women. Personally speaking, I love to laugh, but this will be investigated within the broader documentary – although not in the initial core experiment we’re filming to test my hypothesis that gold-digging impairs women’s joke-making ability.
No, the professor who I ran this by is remaining confidential.
Yes, I will be getting lots of people to help me on this film. My film-making style is collaborative rather than hierarchical or dictatorial, giving people an opportunity to improvise solutions in filmed brainstorming sessions, highlights of which to appear on the DVD’s extras.
Yes, I am stupid, a complete idiot, and so forth – but on the assumption anyone else reading this blog isn’t stupid, please make some better points.
And no, $3 isn’t much to pay, and we’re unlikely to get rich from that return, but it will be an automated stream of income, and if we sell the rights to broadcasters, there will be other lump sums (if you’re working on the film and have negotiated points.)
So far, Laughing with Women is still the best name suggested.
Which manboobzer out there who has realized her gold-digging score is low, her comic creativity high, and is sick of gold-diggers letting the side down, is going to come up with a better name?
If a few more people here actually start making some usable suggestions for the film’s name, then I will divulge the precise way we will be conducting the street experiment here too.
And, HM, as I said before, according to a reference in Naomi Woolf’s 2012 book, Vagina, women are actually becoming worse sexual communicators over the decades – so against this context, we need to be talking about sex more, not less (those of us interested in equality that is).
And HM, Naomi Woolf herself, in that book, Vagina (2013 not 12) despite mentioning that women are communicating less about sex than they used to, then goes on to recommend that men stare deeply into women’s eyes during love-making, to work out what’s going on. It was round about that point were Vagina went off the boil.
lol wut?? Ok, you are right, you guys are the funniest things on the internet. However, that’s unintentional and I’m laughing at you, not with you.
Uh, I think that’s dependant on how long you’re measuring. For example I suspect that women in Victorian England were prolly worse sexual communicators, based on the fact that it was a sexually repressive society and women were still considered just a bit higher on the social scale than pets. Honestly, I suspect women are prolly better communicators now than they ever have been. Mostly because we have to tell you sick fucks that we *don’t* like all the shit you keep saying about us and we keep having to correct all the incorrect bullshit the manosphere spews.
Haha I’m pretty sure that book lost its credibility when the publisher put “Naomi Wolf” on the cover. That book was absolutely excoriated, though it seems like you’re talking about studies she pointed to rather than completely basing your stuff on her.
And surely you didn’t actually interpret my comments to be saying about less less? Because that’s not what I wrote, champion.
In other words, you’re not actually doing anything.
And yeah: WUT? on the comment about every noise a woman makes being fake. Surely you don’t actually believe that? It’s so detached from reality…trust us that you sound ridiculous when you say this stuff.
Reading about what machines discover when stuffed up a vadge has so little to do with learning about women and sex I don’t even know where to start. Maybe listening to us will make you not sound like an alien pretending to be a human man. It would definitely make for fewer people laughing at you. Give it a try.
Everyone take a moment to observe this fine example of othering. Just as when white sailors landed on an island full of brown people, they were “discovering” it (even though all the people who lived there were presumably aware of its existence), so when a man notices something about women, he’s “discovering” it; no matter how common the knowledge was to women, it isn’t actually “known” until it’s known by a man.
Of course, everything he’s “discovered” is in fact false, which just adds to the amusement.
(Erm I meant “talking about sex less” not “less less”, I’m multitasking. And I don’t remember how to edit/quote on here, it’s been a while since I bothered to comment on a blog but, you know, THIS FUCKIN GUY!)
“that every verbal noise a woman makes during sex is fake, that women masturbate more when in a relationship with a man than when not (finishing themselves off)”
o_O whut
Wat even means this?
Oh, and by the way, <3 to any gold-digging women reading this right now. In no way do I think you're "letting the side down." What a fucking absurd idea.
“Gold-digging women” by Tom’s definition, of course, includes pretty much all of us including myself. So hearts to like everyone I guess.
I love this:
“HM, we’d still be thinking your vagina and comic sensibility were delicate little flowers we should never be forceful with – and how many laughs or orgasms would that get you? Zero.”
I don’t need a man for orgasms or for laughs. It’s awesome when men are part of both of those things, sure. But they aren’t necessary for either. And surely you don’t actually think men until recently treated women’s vaginas delicately and without force?
Look at this pair of gold-digging women and the noises they’re faking.
Obviously he means that we are not actually making the sounds. Instead, all women hire a ventriloquist to hide in the closet during sex and make noises for them.
His comment about women’s vocalizations during sex goes back to his bizarre theories he posted on YouTube. I cut and pasted them in that series of tl;dr emails but should have been more succinct. According to yet another study (stop reading studies! Start fucking partners!) he is fond of citing, 20% of women fake orgasms during penetrative sex, leading men to feel all awful about their prowess and to turn to drugs and drink, when in fact the problem was the woman’s anorgasmic brokenness the whole time! This is yet another way women harm men by being an alien race that can only be understood by reading studies about their organs.