This won’t be news to a lot of you — I’m a little late getting to it — but our old pal Tom Martin, the repulsive British MRA celebrity, is actually going ahead with the somewhat baffling video “women and comedy” project he was babbling about in the comments here many months ago, when he was still allowed to comment here. Well, “actually going ahead with it” this August if he can get anyone else to agree to work for him for free minimum wage.
The documentary project is called “Laughing with Women” and, Martin explains, it will “investigat[e] if gold-digging impairs women’s joke-making ability, and if, when women reject gold-digging in all its forms, they can become instantly funnier.”
In case that didn’t make sense to you — don’t worry, that’s a completely natural reaction — Tom explains his, er, “logic” a bit further in a jobs listing he’s posted in hopes of finding a crew, which has already gotten a good deal of ridicule over at PZ Myers’ and on at least one comedy website.
Why are women, on average, slightly less funny than men? Does gold-digging in particular impede women’s joke-making ability? When women publicly reject gold-digging, do they become as funny, or even funnier than men?
In his numerous visits to Man Boobz, Martin expounded at length on the topic of gold-digging women, generally referring to them by his preferred term, the shorter and blunter “whores.” Martin has previously estimated that roughly 97% of women fit this description, and has suggested that female penguins are also whores. Frankly, once he gets going on the topic, it’s hard to shut him up, which is partly why he’s no longer welcome in the comments here.
In any case, this odd hypothesis will be tested, Martin says, with a “radical, and revealing street-based social experiment.”
Still puzzled? Mike Booth, the British video comedian behind SomeGreyBloke and Dan Cardamon, has managed to tease out a few more details from Martin (posting here as sexismBusters):
Martin is confident that his proposed video will blow the lid off this whole “women and gold-digging and comedy, no really, they’re connected” thing:
If the radical, and revealing street-based social experiment at the centre of our documentary proves gold-digging does make women less funny (as pre-production research suggests) then our findings will make headlines around the world, our film’s two minute teaser trailer attached to all those news and blog articles (Update: this advert alone has already been blogged and tweeted about by outraged PC types).
The full documentary will be shot to a broadcast-quality standard and format, giving mainstream television companies worldwide the opportunity to purchase broadcasting rights (if they’re feeling brave enough) whilst we maintain a virtually guaranteed revenue stream from our already established hardcore of supporters and fans within the non PC gender equality field around the world, who, along with everyone else, will be able to enjoy Laughing with Women on newly launched pay-per-view channel, Vimeo on Demand (VoD) – where VoD itself takes a very modest 10% cut. The documentary has the potential to be translated into several languages – gold-digging a familiar if hidden story in every country, until now.
In other words, it sounds like some sort of video gold mine.
So I’d recommend that all gold-digging women out there try to get in on the ground floor of this Tom Martin dude.
Oh, and speaking of Dan Cardamon, here’s the faux MRA’s take on the project:
CORRECTION: This post originally stated that Martin wouldnt’ be paying his crew, but he says he will be paying them minimum wage, so I’ve corrected the relevant passage above.
EDITED TO ADD: Tom has shown up in the comments, and I’m letting his comments through (for now at least), so if you have any questions for him, feel free to head to the comments to address him directly.
I take back my previous statement. It’s become clear that you, in fact, did show up here with the intention of sounding like a pretentious asshole.
Oh no, Howard Bannister, he pulled out the hysterical card! 😉 You’re surely finished now.
First bet: He eventually asks us if it’s that time of month.
Second bet: He turns out to be a returning troll who managed to cough out three or four whole comments that weren’t appalling before showing his hand.
Remember, kids, stereotyping is okay as long as you’re light-hearted about it.
Whether the magazine assigned the topic is irrelevant; his opinion is still there. The magazine didn’t tell him to espouse a position he doesn’t agree with.
Oh, I see. It’s my fault that he’s inept enough of a writer to not be capable of actually saying what he means. Therefore interpreting his words as bogus bullshit cobbled together from whatever he could pull out of his ass is inherently wrong of me because he MEANT for it to be lighthearted. And I magically should have been able to read his mind to be able to ascertain his INTENT instead of reading his words and finding them abhorrent.
Ok then.
And if the magazine had told him specifically to write an article about how women aren’t funny, he could have turned them down, and that would have been cool and classy.
And I magically should have been able to read his mind to be able to ascertain his INTENT instead of reading his words and finding them abhorrent.
In related phenomena, A Modest Proposal was not in fact a confession.
In related phenomena, A Modest Proposal was not in fact a confession.
So it wasn’t a lighthearted piece, then, it was satire?
@inurashii
Are you pointing out different words have different meanings? You misandrist you 😛
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” Wit, after all, is the unfailing symptom of intelligence. Men will laugh at almost anything, often precisely because it is—or they are—extremely stupid.”
But…but…Those sentences are right next to each other!”
What is the contradiction He says that to produce wit , one requires intelligence. Men are not intelligent, so they can not recognize wit, and will laugh at anything, regardless of wit.
So it wasn’t a lighthearted piece, then, it was satire?
Nope.
And what’s a millionaire writer to do? Turn DOWN an article topic that is pure irrational sexist bullshit? How would he eat? What would he do? Where would he go?
Truly, Hitchens is the real victim here.
I, for one, honestly wish A Modes Proposal had never been written, just because it’s so good at convincing smug assholes that they’re smarter than they really are. Approximately 100% of the time I’ve seen it referenced, it’s being used to say that some other bit of “satire” is really awesome.
(Incidentally, if men would in fact laugh at anything, then there would be no grounds for a man to say that women–or anyone or anything–weren’t funny.)
So you brought it up because … ?
*Modest. Today is not my day for typing.
Don’t even ask. He reads “women aren’t funny” and hears “funny women employ traditionally male humor”. We cannot comprehend the workings of his mind.
So you brought it up because … ?
The point being that, to a point, yes, you should be expected to read an author’s intent.
Alternatively, at the very least, you should put it in context. Among thousands and thousands of pages of copy, Hitchens wrote a short essay that could be interpreted as doofy and sexist. It isn’t actually reasonable to then extrapolate that he was a raging misogynist woman-hater.
@Jake
Haha yeah, he wrote so much great stuff, maybe we should ignore that he thinks that 51% of people have inferior intellects to people like him.
Also, what the hell was his point, other than to say that women aren’t funny?
You keep saying that people are misinterpreting it, but you have yet to provide a “correct” interpretation.
Jake Jones (who reeks of sock):
Dipshit, heal thy self.
Haha yeah, he wrote so much great stuff, maybe we should ignore that he thinks that 51% of people have inferior intellects to people like him.
That’s terrible. Link to the quote?
I’m curious, according to Jake, what one has to do to be a woman-hater. Probably you have to say/ type the words “I literally hate women” or something. This may not make sense cuz I’m trying to hold a conversation with my brother while typing,
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