Never let it be said that the men of the MGTOW movement don’t focus on the important issues of our time. For example, over on MGTOWforums, a fellow named Andrew brought up a critical danger faced by today’s men, a danger that the mainstream media is too cowardly to address.
I refer, of course, to the rising danger that an innocent, decent, hard-working, good-looking fellow like Andrew might be forced into a relationship with some ugly fat lady.
You scoff — I can sense your scoffing through the internet — but as Andrew points out, it VERY WELL COULD HAPPEN, by which I mean, no it couldn’t possibly happen, but the MGTOWers do love to get worked up about things, and who am I to rain on their little anger parade?
Here’s Andrew, from the thread “Ugly women forced upon us?? Dangerous precedent for men setting itself up.”
You can’t argue with that!
Seriously, arguing with Andrew would be a bit like debating an angry baby.
EDITED TO ADD: The picture at the top of the post is from a series done by the blogger The Militant Baker in response to statements from the CEO of Abercrombie and Fitch suggesting that its clothes were only for “cool, good-looking people” — a designation that evidently doesn’t include larger women, since the chain doesn’t offer XL and XXL sizes for women, just men. For more pics, and her open letter to the company, see here.
Hellkell: Now imagine 8 year old me sitting there doing “But aren’t they cold? Why would anyone want to see a bunch of women skating around topless and freezing?”. A lot of the dudes around us looked rather embarrassed.
mildlymagnificent – grooming is how I got today’s scratch, too. Mads likes being combed and really likes the rubber brush thing – you know the ones with the conical points? But today she wanted to do interactive grooming. Ouch.
Does Herself have longish fur? It’s bad enough when short-haired cats get the old and knotting thing going; Magnus was like that when he was her age (he passed at 22). Long hair would be a nightmare.
I also have an interesting collection of scratches on my arms from getting Madam into her basket for her vet visit on Friday.
Cassandra: I can totally see it. Un!Comfortable! for everyone.
It had to be more fun than Cirque de Soleil, though.
Cassandra – would this have been at the height of Torvill and Dean’s popularity?
‘Fraid so, kittehs. Not quite up to what you’d get on a purebred persian, but not far off it either. It’s magically soft and touchable when she’s well-groomed, but now that she’s given up on that she’s not even _clean_ on her back. There are significant drawbacks to the pure white coat nowadays.
@hellkell
Double ouch. From the stories I’ve heard it seems like house landlords are even more dickish about repairs than apartment landlords (slumlords excepted) because they only have one family to deal with. Hopefully yours is decent.
@Cassandra
I can’t stop laughing at the image, though I reckon 8 yr old me might have felt traumatized by that. I feel like 26 yr old me’s reaction’ll prolly be closer to 8 yr old you. On ice is not a place where I would find topless women arousing.
W00t cloudiah likes me! 🙂
This morning’s TERF-splosion? Among other stupidity, gay men are victims of hate crimes against men, not against gays. And misandry is more a problem than transphobia cuz more men than trans* people. Dafuq? Did get the 55g cleaned while trying to figure out if I’d woken up in backwards land.
MrFancyPants — just Argenti is fine, and I’m glad you took that as gracefully as you did!
@ Kittehs
I was 8 in 1981, so maybe? The best part was when my mum tried to explain why the show existed, with a bunch of the guys around us looking more embarrassed by the minute.
Mum: Well, you see, some men like this sort of thing. They find it very, um, exciting.
Me: (figures out what she means by exciting, frowns) Men are really weird sometimes.
Mum: Yes, love, I know.
Dad: (Shrinks down into chair in embarrassment, vows to be more careful about which shows to bring the kid to in the future.)
@Cassandra – Ah, I was out by three years. T&D came to notice at the Sarajevo Winter Olympics in ’84. So it wasn’t Vegas cashing in on that, it was just Vegas being Vegas.
I love the image of all those guys cringing … heheheh.
@Argenti – dafuq? indeed! Since when are radfems, TERFS or not, going on about hate crimes against men for being men? And misandry? Since when have they been conned into thinking it’s a thing?
@mildlymagnificent – ::sigh:: yes, it was like that with Magnus (short hair) and Hadji (semi-long hair) as they aged. They weren’t white, but it was very obvious their fur wasn’t clean any more. 🙁
Current kitty has only had one matted bit in the entire time I’ve had her (nearly 2 years). I’ve never had a long-haired cat before and was anticipating having to brush her constantly but nope, brushing her just makes her fur shinier, she doesn’t actually get any tangles that need to be brushed out. Her fur feels like a powder puff.
Kitteh — I think the “logic” is that this let’s them claim that trans* women are attacked for *drum roll* being non-conforming men. Because trans* women being women at best terrifies them, at worst makes them violent. I’ll email you a TERF quotes link, I don’t want to drop it here because MRAs would have a fucking field day with this shit. (You want it too Cassandra?)
Just emailed you back, Argenti – no small feat while my head was exploding.
Cassandra, lucky with non-matting kitty fur! 🙂
I just had a huge nostalgia hit (goosebumps and all), playing a vid of Torvill and Dean at the ’84 Olympics. Anyone want to see it? I managed to find one with decent sound.
SambaNoodler: Fibinachi, as I said I absolutely would have clarified that if s/he hadn’t taken such a nasty, aggressive tone.
So you want to, “censor” another poster’s tone, because they didn’t take into account your tender fee=fees. Ironic, dontcha think?
Because nothing (but your own foolish pride) stopped you from also saying what you meant by the comment.
Of course (as others will, no doubt have already taken aparr) you didn’t do any such thing, rather explaining how thin women are more valuable, and so proving the complaint made against you (the one you found so offensive) was substantively true.
Sadly for the average MGHOW, obesity is temporary but being a hate-filled asshat is forever.
@Argenti well, you really did give me pause and make me think. I’m a straight, white, 46-year-old dude with a job that pays me more than enough in societal respect and money than I need, and I’m lucky to have a pretty awesome partner. I’m the very epitome of Mr. Privilege. So I redouble my efforts to understand my blind spots, of which I know there are many. You were pretty kind to me in your rebuke; the very least that I could do given my situation and what I’d said would be to consider your comment and think about it.
The alternative is to double down and argle bargle like Elam and his toadies, and really, I want nothing to do with that mindset. I don’t need to comment here. I do now because I’ve had enough of the harassers and idiots. I may make a misstep occasionally, but I’ve no problem with you or anyone else pointing that out.
Asher: Men aren’t going to be *forced* to marry chubby women, they’re going to sit around and give the middle finger to civilization. Buh-bye welfare state.
Sure… because it’s the doods who do all the work? Not by half. And… if you look around you will see that no one is actually avoiding fat women. The idea that narrow-minded twits like you can change that is beyond laughable.
But if you can’t hack it with the rest of us, feel free to actually get around to the Going part of your own way.
Detached: I wasn’t going to jump in but this bothers me: Maybe I’m too used to the people I hang around with now, because I can just joke around and be a little crass, even with women.
That feels a lot like, “you have no sense of humor”.
While I get that local mores may move words into/out of social acceptance, trying to imply that those who don’t share your sense of whimsy are somehow deficient, esp. when it’s married to the idea that it’s somehow related to them being women… not on.
I’m also getting a hint of “I know/assume that the women don’t like this, but they let me get away with it”, which is obnoxious.
I get the, “those women are clued in, and cool with my being manly; the aren’t emasculating me by telling me I’m being offensive”.
I don’t know quite what to say to Matt; who is also perpetuating the idea that being overweight is something which needs to be changed.
Not necessarily, and irrelevant
Shadow — I believe it was a play on “in the morning I’ll be sober” but yeah, it’s irrelevant and wrong.
MrFancyPants — I realize you where sincere, not fishing for cookies, but I want to give you cookies for your refusal to double down.
Cookies!
Seriously, cookies and/or waffles. You can’t lose.
cassandra
Pearl’s coat never ever had any shine at all. Talked about it with mr, to get the right word for it when she was in full winter coat glory, and *clean*, she was powder puff soft but she kind of glowed – like a full moon reflected in water. And it made us remember that her full winter coat was stunningly beautiful until recent years. A full ruff around her head and obscuring part of her chest, her legs looked as though she was wearing lace edged pantaloons and a skirt draping from her torso almost touching the ground and a fine tail to match all this splendour.
Not so splendiferous for this apparently aristocratic personage, she was a real adventurer. When she went outside she’d come back covered in grease from the cars she’d got beneath and rubbed up against or be a completely different colour from the dust or dirt she liked to roll in (or get into sheds and burrow into ours or other people’s years old junk).