So we learned the other day from that Man Going His Own Way that male violence was, like, totally the fault of evil sexy ladies. Now, from this Men’s Rights Redditor, we learn that homophobia — or at least homophobia directed at gay men — is all the fault of straight women and their desire for macho dudes. Because straight men don’t ever express any sort of hostility towards gay or effeminate men — it’s just those darn ladies!
But, huh, what about all those straight dudes who are always calling other dudes “gay” and, you know, that other word that starts with an “f?”
Well, apparently that’s just playful joshing. No harm, no foul! If anything, it shows how wonderfully tolerant of gayness these guys are. I mean, come on, if you can’t see this, you must be stupid, or something. Or so says this other Men’s Rights Redditor:
They’re just having a little fun. You’re not against fun, are you?
Thanks to the AgainstMen’sRights subreddit for pointing me to these quotes.
Beware!
Also, this. Because Patrick Stewart. And kitties.
@Kittehs
LOL. I think it is too late for me (though my furry overlord is canine).
This.
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And this:
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Neither can I. So it’s probably just as well that that’s never happened to me.
God knows I have to face enough hideous challenges every day merely through being a white heterosexual male from a reasonably comfortable background. I can barely walk to the end of my street without feeling oppressed.
I see Clyde hasn’t answered my question. I’m not surprised.
MRAs – Poster children for “INSANE TROLL LOGIC”.
Clyde: it’s very difficult for men- especially white men- to engage in a heterosexual relationship without accepting emotional abuse and demeaning behavior from a misandrist partner who sees them as less than fully human.
Dafuq?
Apparently, in roughly thirty years of engaging in romantic/sexual relationships with feminist women, all I’ve found are the outliers, who think men are people too.
Or, you’re full of shit.
Perhaps it’s harder for men who see women as somehow inferior to find women who see that as a virtue, and so treat them with the slavish, and self-abnegating, attentions those men demand.
Clyde started from this point.
Needless to say, this is purest projection.
Who’s trying to take the right to vote from men? Hmm, nope, nobody.
MRAs, though? Here, have a few posts from this very blog documenting MRAs who are against the right of woemn to vote.
Oh, hey, there’s a tag! You can look up examples yourself!
Tell me again who sees who as “less than human.”
Woemn–that’s women who are crying currently, right?
Clyde: I can’t imagine being in a relationship with someone who considers you subhuman.
Then why do you think women (esp. feminist women) would want to be in a relationship with an MRA?
What do you think this, “men, esp. white ones are full human,” means?
How are white men made inferior?
What are the forms of their oppression?
Clyde: Let me help you. I did some (minor) editing of your thought:
Does that help? You think women are privilege oppressors. That’s your problem.
As I said, I’ve been having relationships with women (a lot more than you would think… many of them are completely a-romantic, just colleagues/friends/coworkers/students/teachers), and I’ve not suffered from this problem you aver is so widespread.
It causes me to think you might be in error.
Dude, men are not the oppressors, patriarchy is.
Also, as a white woman with an education and a job, I’m pretty privileged too. Doesn’t make me subhuman – just means I’m privileged compared to a lot of other people in this world, and I recognize that.
Erhmm, meant to say “Spot on, Katz”
The underlying truth that comes from this thread is that women cannot understand what happens withing all male groups. It is not their fault particularly but it is so.
Healthy women realize this and are curious to a degree but feminists are threatened by it because these groups are outside of their control. They therefore seek to shut them down and/or make up things about them.
It used to work. Not now.
Clyde, I’ll ask again. How has anybody treated you (or straight white men in general) as less than human?
Blacky: The underlying truth that comes from this thread is that women cannot understand what happens withing all male groups. It is not their fault particularly but it is so.
Whoa… so I’m a woman now? My beloved will be so surprised to learn this.
Ha! Fedora, we’re all asking Clyde what is he talking about. I am being curious. I actually used this word -curious- the first time I asked Clyde what makes him think that straight white men are treated as less than human. I am skeptic about his reasons to think that way, but I’m not shutting him down, I want him to explain.
Also, Fedora, you never answer to Pecunium’s questions. Why is that?
As he’s here, I’d just like to say that Fedora’s comment the other day that ‘You never see MGOTWs organising slutwalks’ is a definite frontrunner for Stupidest Thing I Have Ever Read On The Internet – and as I’m sure you’re all aware, this is a pretty crowded field. In fact, Stupidest Thing Fedora Has Ever Said is a pretty crowded field. Or Stupidest Thing Fedora Has Said Today, for that matter.
Aruba
Clyde has already told you what he is talking about. He is giving you a look into the way life appears to many men. It is clear enough to me because I share his experiences.
You have shared some of yours. They are outside of my experience but I took the trouble of considering them.
Unfortunately because you have taken the feminist toxin you cannot consider that men have the same internal lives as women. We are all supposed to be a bit less human I suppose.
Actually men hurt too.
There’s going to be some confusion around Casa Bannister as well.
(house Bannister: we may pay our debts, if we can find the money!)
Wait, what?
“The underlying truth that comes from this thread is that women cannot understand what happens withing all male groups.”
Did you mean, “…what happens within male groups…” ? If so, what happens within male groups? What are you talking about?
“It is not their fault particularly but it is so.”
What is so?
“Healthy women realize this and are curious to a degree but feminists are threatened by it…”
Threatened by what? Go ahead and be as descriptive as you want.
“…because these groups are outside of their control. They therefore seek to shut them down and/or make up things about them.”
Do you mean when MRAs or whatever post sexist things? And then uppity women respond by saying/posting, “Hey, that’s sexist, buddy.”
Please, use your words.
BlackHat, a challenge: who’s shutting down who? Who is trying to take the vote from men? Why do men keep trying to take it from women? Why do MRAs harp on it?
YOU ARE PROJECTING.