In a post ostensibly about the imminent arrival of female Viagra, our dear friend JudgyBitch weighs in on yet another subject about which she knows shit: the reasons that women who are not her might not want to have sex with their husbands:
Loss of libido in women, excepting rare medical conditions, in my opinion, is a direct result of not seeing men as emotionally complex beings. If you’re married, at some point, your husband probably stood in front of you and promised to love you forever. Rejecting him physically is a very wounding thing to do. It hurts. Sex is one of the most important, intimate ways married couples show that they love one another. Refusing to have sex with your husband is telling him, in a very painful way, that you don’t love him. That you don’t care for him or about him.
Huh. If I hadn’t seen her on video, thus confirming her status as an adult human female, I would have a hard time believing that it was an actual woman saying this and not some horny, creepy teenage boy in the process of trying to manipulate his girlfriend into “going all the way.”
Oh, but she’s got more:
I guess the only way to justify that is to think of men as emotionless. It doesn’t hurt men to be rejected because they don’t feel anything to begin with.
Really? The only way to justify saying “no” to your husband when you don’t want to have sex with him is if you convince yourself he’s emotionless? But women should just force themselves to say “yes” to sex when they don’t want to and simply endure what follows?
That’s the ugly little reality behind female viagara. Will it actually boost women’s libido? Who knows. What difference will it make, though, if women are going to continue to see men as less than completely human? That’s the real problem.
Does anyone know where to get irony meters at a reasonable price? Mine just leapt off the table, ran around the room screaming, and exploded.
Kittehserf wrote:
There is no such thing as financial rape. Rape is an assault on the person. Money and finances are not people, in case you hadn’t noticed.
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The word rape comes from a Latin word whose original meaning was to take property by force. Financial Rape does indeed exist and is practiced by the majority of Western women.
“The word rape comes from a Latin word whose original meaning was to take property by force. Financial Rape does indeed exist and is practiced by the majority of Western women.”
…You’ve just committed the etymological fallacy. Not surprising, I guess.
Aaliyah
Exactly.
Another MRA who lacks reading comprehension. And water is wet.
And you know perfectly well that is NOT what rape means in modern English. Stop minimising an actual crime against the person by reducing it to the level of a property crime. It says a great deal about you, none of it good – but then, a man who wanks online about drowning women in quicksand is a failure of a human being anyway.
The roots of the word rape is “subdue prey”.
Of course, there was a property element to it, but you won’t teach many here that women used to be treated as property. Luckily, today women are treated as property by some.
Would anyone mind if I vented a little about how sick I am of hearing the “women divorce their husbands and live rich forever on alimony and child support” bullshit?
After my parents divorced, my mom worked two jobs trying to support me and my three siblings. It was really hard going. There were days we’d come home from school and there would be literally nothing in our kitchen. To add insult to injury, my mother had internalized the whole “single mothers are a drain on our society” thing and refused to get public aid.
Even once my father finally started paying child support, things still weren’t great, because what he owed was a fucking drop in the bucket compared to the costs of raising a child.
DMG, you are a disgusting human being. Take your financial rape crap and fuck off.
Melody wrote: Green even the AMERICAN census has more women in poverty than men.
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The vast majority of women who live in poverty in America are single mothers who choose not to marry in order to draw a welfare check. End welfare and the marriage rates would go sky high and the poverty rate would fall into the sigle digit range.
Dave M, they’re beating you badly here. You should try responding to my commentary instead of wasting your time with them on issues where they actually have good points. And again, those quicksand stories are really of no redeeming value.
More or less off topic…I cannot even follow this shit as my sleeping pill is kicking in, but “venomous snake”? You sure you don’t mean a non-venomous toxic snake? I guess since he’s a heretic, I should ignore everything he says, but I learned those are a thing from pecunium the other day. Because we have weird email conversations, like how the subject of one of my nightmares was a non-venomous toxic snake.
Please return to your regularly scheduled idiocy now (or, you know, don’t)
And the word “pencil” comes from the PIE *pes (penis), but I don’t see you fucking one.
On the other hand, the rampant epidemic of women choosing single motherhood, and taking financial advantage of men in a divorce, is a problem. In my own family’s case, my mother left my father; then my father attempted to “financially (won’t use that word)” to her because she made more money than him, but failed because of an incompetent male lawyer.
augochlorella,
Having spent years listening to my own mother moaning and bitching about how my father should pay her enough money to stay home with us boys after she ditched him in a divorce. While watching both of my stepmothers take my dad to the cleaners I think I’ll stick around to fuck your shit up a little while longer.
Seconding that, augochlorella. My father deserted us when I was nine and did the whole “you’ll never want for money!” claim even though he was living with the woman he dumped Mum for and she had three kids. Surprise surprise, it wasn’t long before he was all “Oh noes I can’t support you” (although second wife had a job too). Mum got a job and we lived on her income alone until I started work, and since neither of us has had well-paid work we’ve always been on a low income, even jointly. We were never as badly off as you and your family, but it killed my chances of tertiary education when my father deserted us, and it’s not hard to see how that affects a person’s future.
But why would so many women choose not to marry and live in poverty when they could “financially rape” someone via a divorce and live in luxury forever?
Hmm… It’s almost like you’re full of shit.
On and you totally can compare different types of fruit — all measures of all things have a lovely thing called a standard deviation, that is, if you find the mean of anything, the rate at which that measure diverges from the mean is called the standard deviation. So apples and oranges can be compared in terms of which has a larger standard deviation, on various measures even. Eg, are apples more consistent in weight than oranges? Totally a valid question.
/math pedantry
The vast majority of women who live in poverty in America are single mothers who choose not to marry in order to draw a welfare check. End welfare and the marriage rates would go sky high and the poverty rate would fall into the sigle digit range.
Actually, no.
Only a quarter of all adult women (age 18 and older) with incomes below the poverty line are single mothers. Over half of all poor adult women—54 percent—are single with no dependent children.
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/women/report/2008/10/08/5103/the-straight-facts-on-women-in-poverty/
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We could also diagnose women who want to leave their abusive husband with mental illness, a la drapetomania.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drapetomania
I think Greeny should write a poem about that, based on “individuality women” (to quote him).
“weak kneed males”
Since Green has used this phrase frequently, I am now tempted to ask: bro, do you even deadlift?
I’m the son of a single mother who divorced my father for perfectly legitimate reasons. He went on to live large, while she and I and my little brother languished in poverty. So, yeah, Greenie: “financial rape” is not a thing.
Though it is a more creative concept than your quicksand stories. I’ll give you that much.
You’re seriously being creepy.
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In a Christian patriarchal society, divorce would be illegal. People could separate, but would never have a chance to remarry again. They would also be shunned by society if they moved in with another person. Both men and women would be required to support all their children and be under the same rules.
Green are you an economist as well as physiatrist? Because you seem to know VERY little about the things you carry on about.
We’re all just comparing anecdotes. Men are more violent; men and women are about equally manipulative. More should be done to prevent this.
But men can have multiple wives and some concubines? Cuz that’s totally part of biblical marriage.