Friendzoning: The Rage Comics

Radfems seem to give an almost religious significance to the penis- as if if penetrated them even when doing nothing. Even a man looking at a woman becomes invasive. The natural conclusion to this is castration or all men or the mass raping of men in revenge.

Again, Projection at its finest. People wanting to be free from being targeted for sexualized violence = wanting to rape everybody, allatime.

It is… very revealing, about TBF.

Then why not admit that the quote does not mean what you claim it does?

Sparky, you lie like a rug.

You are the most dishonest troll I have ever encountered on this blog, except for NWO and he was more delusional than dishonest.

We have had exceptional liars on here before, but most of them at least tried to lie about things you couldn’t check by scrolling up and down.

Folks: I think it’s time to stop feeding this particular troll. His insistence that all of the lengthy list of examples of online misogyny are ‘disproved’ indicate that he’s quite literally either lying out his ass, or utterly delusional (or, of course, both).

I do think that TB, in this particular case, was lashing out at a rather disgusting denial of the damage done by the rape of a man. However, as others have noted, both her writing style and her history have rendered her a non-credible source for decent satire.

Oh, and while yes, there was a lot of disgusting shit in that original thread, there were also legitimately helpful/supportive posts, including advice on where the victim could go for real counseling. I have to take my hope for humanity where I can find it.

This notion is fundamental to feminism in practice but only to some feminists in theory. The standard response to male suffering, be it rape, medical neglect or the current rise of suicides is ridicule and ‘what about the menz’ shaming language. This is what we saw in the thread. Standard feminism.

And now blatant making shit up. It’s always fun when people who aren’t feminists claim to know more about the fundamentals of feminism than feminists themselves.

Radfems seem to give an almost religious significance to the penis- as if if penetrated them even when doing nothing. Even a man looking at a woman becomes invasive. The natural conclusion to this is castration or all men or the mass raping of men in revenge.

I am aware not a feminists are RadFems.

Yet, what you seem to believe are “feminist fundamentals” are pretty similar to what you seem to believe RadFems are all about. Most of it is projection anyway, but you claim you make a distinction between RadFems and the rest of feminism, but also state that things RadFems supposedly believe (according to you) are core tenets of feminism. So either you believe all feminists are RadFems, or you do not know how to explain yourself. My money’s on both.

‘All men are rapists’ is a feminist slogan

Nope! But there have been a lot of examples of MRAs having those dim views of men, a lot of them documented on this blog. Here’s a link to the most recent http://manboobz.com/2013/05/29/men-violent-because-of-women-says-man-who-hates-women/

There’s a lot to parse there, but the ones that seem to express the most a belief that men are naturally violent and/or rapists are these two quotes:

Since the 1960s, normal male behavior has been increasingly criminalized while criminal female behavior has been increasingly normalized. This process is known as ‘feminism,’ and includes legal restrictions on politically incorrect speech, redefinitions of ‘harassment,’ and so on. This ground has been covered over and over again in the sphere and we don’t need to retread how feminism makes it illegal simply to exist as a man.

Men commit more crime because men do more of anything, that is apart from self-obsessed complaining. This is the Y-chromosome explanation that radfems are so fond of, except they miss out the part that if there’s no Jack the Ripper then there’s no Einstein either, and it’s kind of hard to be a career grrl if men haven’t invented corporations and desks yet. Men are proactive as women are reactive, which in laymen’s terms means we get shit done.

This is not from a feminist. This is not feminist thought. This is not espousing feminist ideals. This is MRA mumbo jumbo which is by far the most misandrist rhetoric I’ve ever seen. And I’ve spent a lot of time on feminist sites.

The entire premise of this site is to take writing by men (and occasionally women) and then quote them out of context in an effort to find some imagined dark recess in the male soul.

Weird, I thought the premise was mocking a handful of hateful dipshits! David, did you know you’re trying to find an “imagined dark recess in the male soul”?

normal male behavior has been increasingly criminalized while criminal female behavior has been increasingly normalized. This process is known as ‘feminism,’ and includes legal restrictions on politically incorrect speech, redefinitions of ‘harassment,’ and so on.

Did duder actually just say that hate speech and harassment are “normal male behavior”?

Misandrist as fuck.

If you want to say this is sarcasm, you have to say what this sarcasm was intended to display.

If she is exaggerating, then she’s still saying envelopment is worse than penetration. WRONG. BOTH ARE BAD.
If she’s being sarcastic, then she’s agreeing with the original poster that penetration is worse than envelopment. WRONG. BOTH ARE BAD.
If she was overplaying the description of groping and underplaying the description of penetration to make a point that comparing the two was terrible, then she gives no hint of that intent in her writing, and confuses the issue with the nonsense about hands and hammers at the end. Given how many MRAs are intent in defining rape out of existence Poe’s law comes into effect: sarcasm and actual bbeliefs are impossible to tell apart.

Ugh… logic. Been arguing with “moderate” opponents of Anita Sarkeesian’s videos again. So many syntax failures.

Also, what the fuck CRIMINAL FEMALE BEHAVIOR has been normalized?

OP’s example of this is abortion, which of course flies in the face of human history. Abortion was outlawed for a mere century in the United States, from the mid-1800’s until 1973.

@ Ugh, not our troll, no, it’s from the linked post of David’s from a few days ago about the guy claiming that women were responsible for all violence. But yeah, that was pretty much exactly my reaction to reading it too. I’m sure it’s seen as a stretch to assume that the “and so on” is stuff like rape and other kinds of violence, but given that he later says “men commit more violence because men get shit done” I don’t think so. Really, just assuming he meant that it’s natural for men to harass and hate on everyone is the most charitable interpretation, and even that’s pretty misandrist. Most men are not entitled, harassing haters.

Black Chappy:

If you have a problem in this area then fix it.

Nope. The problem is context; the greater context of all her work. Since we have some, it’s harder to look at this as a one off of poor phrasing. It is the greater reponsibility of the writer to be clear, as all there is to go on is what is written. This is doubly true in a case where the author is making statements which aren’t conversational, and where the reader may not be conversant with the entire subject.

Since Typhon Blue knows she is a lightning rod for controversy (because she aspires to be controversial) she needs to make certain of her clarity.

These are things for you to ponder, as you compose your epic thesis.

I would guess this is the same sort of thing. The fact that it was edited pretty heavily before coming here would suggest that.

It wasn’t edited. It was quoted directly, with a link. If you pay attention you will see that we are talking about the possibility the context makes it less odious. You are making apologia for any manner of things she has said which were unquestionably foul.

And, even in the context of her response, she says that rape isn’t possible. The vagina was meant to take a penis, so it’s cool. She could have made the argument that female on male rape isn’t really possible, or that this case wasn’t clearly rape, without saying that.

She didn’t. She chose to frame her argument that way. Since you say she is a brilliant writer, you have to think she said what she meant to say. Therefore she had a purpose to those words.

Go ahead, use that brilliance of yours (the one which is so clued in on theology, and moral theory; so much so that you are willing to dictate behavior to half the planet), and explain how she didn’t just erase rape with that comment.

I can only assume that TB’s reply was some sort of shock reversal of what was being said about him…

Oh, is that what you assume. I thought the reader (viz your comment to Cassandra) was supposed to know from the words on the page what was meant.

Do you suppose feminists do not post on MRM forums? Why would you assume this?

Ah… the old “Fifth Column” and False Flags Gambit. He’s onto us. We lurk in MRA fora, talking the talk, and nodding along, so that when a dude with a real problem comes along; and we savage him with all the Fury of Feminism, there will be a track record of MRA talking points to cover our tracks.

We’ve been exposed. The jig is up.

I have read this blog for a while now and this always happens sooner or later. The supposed misogyny is ALWAYS fake.

Always…! I guess we’ve been told. Thomas Ball didn’t call for bombing courthouses. Some Spearheader didn’t say girls ought to have their voiceboxes cut out. Men saying women need to be denied their rights (to vote, to work, to bodily autonomy [you might know a little something about the last one; since you are in favor of doing just that], or that “sluts” ought to be put in brothels) etc. never happened, we just made it up, or, “cherry picked” or “edited” those.

Ok, put up, or shut up (well, this being what it is, you will do neither, but we can hope, “a man’s reach should exceed his grasp, or what’s a Heaven for,” and all that).

@pecunium

*coughs* I think you’re mixing up ProPatria, the “moderate” forced birther, and Sparky here, the bog standard MRA. Not that I blame you. If their gravatars weren’t different colors I wouldn’t be able to distinguish them either.