Two rage comics that capture well the true human tragedy that is FRIENDZONING, both of which I found in the awesome Blue Pill subreddit. The one above is by dont_buy_me_gold; the one below by SaltyChristian (who is, incidentally, a CERTIFIED ALPHA).
I have heard rumors that the entire Blue Pill subreddit is not actually a hangout for super alpha dudes but rather a parody of the Red Pill subreddit but I choose not to believe them, much in the same way I choose not to believe in the supposed “law” of gravity. It’s A THEORY, people!
(Note: These are both parodies, by the way, in case there is any confusion.)
I would have to be inside their heads to know if they are really attracted to their partners. But I could SEE if their partners are conventionally attractive. My guess is they’re not, which is not a sin or a crime, most people aren’t.
“Self-Kino
Quick Definition: The act of kino escalating yourself, better known as masturbation.”
*dies* nicely done talacaris, for once, you’ve produced something genuinely funny.
And I have no problem with peacocking, other than the potential to look absurd. And isn’t voice attraction like, using your “phone voice” basically? So yeah, also fine (well, mostly, don’t try altering your voice too much or you can fuck it up [your voice, not the sound of it])
But point stands that the acceptable parts of PUA are about changing yourself. (And no, lying doesn’t count, not for an actual relationship anyways, one night stands? Just don’t lie about STDs and shit like whether you’ve got another partner who’d call it cheating)
@Eurosabra: Can you please show us the things in The Game that you find acceptable? And not acceptable?
Yep, nice to know you realise that you’re guessing. At pretty much everything. Go away & come back when you have some some facts, laddie.
Eurosabra: No, I mean no reason to debate, no useful purpose or outcome to be served debating the irrevocably biased.
This assumes we are wrong. This actually betrays your fundamental failing: you operate under the condition that “game” is a proven thing.
We don’t. So you have to convince us. The tools you have used have failed. Not because we are biased, but because the eividence (how many “approaches were you making? What number of approaches do your disciples have to make? Some of them are in the realm of, 300? Based on studies in colleges, that means Game is worse than just randomly approaching women and saying, “hey, wanna fuck?”) you provide isn’t convincing.
When you say, “all women hate disable men”, we have experience which contradicts this absolute claim. They may reject you, but they didn’t reject me. They may have rejected you, but there are women on this board who didn’t reject disabled men.
You are wrong.
When you argue that abusive techniques (mild gaslighting) is acceptable, because otherwise you can’t get your dick wet, we disagree.
It’s not that we reject, “game”, per se, it’s that we reject abusive manipulations. In that I admit to being, “biased”. I’m PROUD of that “bias”.
Again, I don’t have to convince you. There is nothing to be won or decided in the real world as a result of this space, except that maybe Gamer McVeigh (and I wish he did not exist and we would do well to root him out) now knows about and focuses on the SPLC.
Then why are you still here?
Again, I don’t have to convince you.
Do you really think there is a large group of Proto-PUA here?
What is your investment in legitimising game? If it is what you want, and it gets you what you want, and you don’t care that you are abusing women, why do you care about its image in the wider world?
Who are you tying to convince?
blockquote monster’s awake, I see …
Typhon Blue is what a feminist would look like if “gender equality” were more than just a rhetorical argument for feminists : someone who believe that feminists have betrayed their cause by transforming their movement into an anti-male cult and that, in order to finally achieve the gender equality utopia, they just need to prove by logic that men’s problems also exist and should matter and the ongoing demonization of men and masculinity will stop by itself.
It’s just typical MRM crap.
“Typhon Blue is what a feminist would look like if “gender equality” were more than just a rhetorical argument for feminists”
*spits out drink*
“anti-male cult”
Yes, I feel so victimized. Aaa. Aaa. Help me.
Your next bit is a bit of a hash, and I had to read it three times to understand what you meant.
I think … “[TB] believes that if she shows feminists that men suffer and are opproessed they will stop oppressing men.” Roughly.
Which is so wrong on so many levels. Aaaah, women oppressing me by asking to be paid fairly, aaaaaa. Women oppressing me asking for hate sites on Facebook to be taken down, aaaa, oh noes.
Brz, you’re just… getting more and more divorced from reality every day. Take a break, son.
If Typhonblue is trying to prove anything by logic, she’s producing a whole new level of fail.
Typhoidblue just hopes desperately that her “edginess” (feminism is just like anti-semitism, and OH! I’m just going to use the N-word a few times) will distract everyone from the fact that there’s no substance to her arguments.
It’s not f*cking stupid, it’s a perspective that states that conventional attractiveness is well-defined and personal criteria of attractiveness are individual, largely unknown to the outside observer and probably unknowable to a certain extent even to the holder. So I can’t know if they are really attracted, but the example of the bride who dodged the groom’s kiss at her own wedding raises doubts. So I go with the observable. I judge. People do judge. It’s probably a fault.
You’d probably be surprised at the varied women I’ve dated, never mind approached, if you weren’t too busy advising them to run screaming for the hills. I am not grousing a bit that there aren’t enough 20-year-old supermodels to go around but that’s not a major issue, that’s a strawPUA.
So I go with the observable.
No, you don’t. The observable is that people are together. The presumption is they are with people to whom they are attracted.
You have decided (contra the observed facts) that any person who doesn’t meet your, idiosyncratic, interpretation of, “conventionally attractive” is, in some way, not actually attractive to the people they are involved with.
Occam’s razor says the better assumption is, absent evidence to the contrary the smart money bets on the two parties to a relationship each finding the other attractive.
Dude, we could be lying about everything to everyone else and no one would know. That’s a given. That would mean that all your experiences with women would also have the potential to be fake, too. Hell, we could all be kittens trained by David to type this. You never know. But that’s given with any interaction.
Why would you rate how attractive my partner is to me by how much you’re attracted to her? That’s like trying to figure out how hungry someone about to eat is by judging whether you like the food on their plate. That’s just so… stupid.
*takes a huge bite of anchovy and pickled brussel sprout pizza with soy cheez*
“So I go with the observable. I judge. People do judge. It’s probably a fault.”
I’m honestly really lost by this. You can’t judge what people thing, therefore you judge? Was the “fault” comment in response to how clearly stupid that is?
Think*, not thing….
Subjectivity, what’s that?
memo to self: no more pre-breakfast attempts to do blockquotes
Maybe it’s the ol’ “my experience is the only one that counts” thing again. Euroslime isn’t attracted to a particular woman, therefore he can’t quite believe that any other man would be, either.
… which kind of means no woman is ever attracted to a man, ‘cos Eurosabra isn’t, therefore nobody can be.
Two bits of anecdata: I don’t find my best friend’s fiance remotely physically attractive. But there is no question they are enormously attracted to each other.
I was seriously surprised when friends started admitting thoughts like “whoarrr!” came to mind about Mr K – and that’s from seeing his earth-time portraits. I hadn’t thought he would be thought hot by other people. He isn’t Conventionally Attractive after all, how can this be? ::head explodes::