Over on This is Why MGTOW, the blogger who calls himself Cerberus Alpha (dude, seriously?) attempts to answer the question: Why are men more violent?
Rather than attempting to engage with the extensive scholarly literature on the subject, or even making a token effort to do any research on the subject whatsoever, Mr. Alpha instead spins a few familiar manosphere fairy tales into “evidence” that it’s all the fault of those evil sexy ladies and their evil sexy and/or feminist ways.
Young women train violence and criminality into young men. The thug with the shaved head who communicates in grunts is sexually rewarded. The empathetic bookworm is denied if not publicly humiliated if he approaches a girl. So the bookworm puts down the book, gets contacts and a tattoo, bulks up in the gym, and generally acts like an asshole. (Why would he be nice to women any more?) Suddenly, he finds himself showered in pussy. This is how it works. Women’s sexual desires are dark and pathological, and this encourages men to become violent criminals if they want to get laid.
His evidence for this?
Just look at all the Game blogs out there, which teach men how to mimic the frame of the uncaring, alpha criminal without actually breaking the law.
That’s right. Misogynist dude pontificating about ladies cites as evidence … other misogynist dudes pontificating about ladies. THAT’S SCIENCE!
Oh, but the perfidy of the evil violence-causing ladies gets worse! Because they also force men to commit evil violence by, apparently, telling them to do it in sweet sexy voices:
Women’s own violence is committed via proxy (i.e. they get men to do the difficult work of physical coercion), and thus is incorporated into men’s overall violence. That’s pretty smart of women, in a devious and manipulative sort of way. A woman who has a problem with a man (or just wants to see a guy get beaten up, because that kind of sadism makes her tingle) sidles up to her boyfriend and asks so-sweetly if he will ‘do something’ about that guy who’s bothering her. But when the fun is over and the cops show up because someone is leaving the party in an ambulance, it was all his fault, see. She didn’t do a thing. She’s sugar and spice and all things nice.
I think Mr. Alpha here is confusing real life with the TV show Cheaters.
But wait! We haven’t even gotten to the even eviller evils of … FEMINISM.
Since the 1960s, normal male behavior has been increasingly criminalized while criminal female behavior has been increasingly normalized. This process is known as ‘feminism,’ and includes legal restrictions on politically incorrect speech, redefinitions of ‘harassment,’ and so on. This ground has been covered over and over again in the sphere and we don’t need to retread how feminism makes it illegal simply to exist as a man.
Uh, maybe you do need to go over that once more because, well, here’s the thing, I’m a dude, and I’ve never been arrested for being a man. Or even given a warning. And I’m pretty sure there are literally billions of other men on planet earth in the same situation as I am. Are there warrants out for us all?
The flip side is that crimes like abortion and infanticide, for which women were typically held responsible, have been made legal and normalized by feminists.
Really? Could you remind me again when Congress passed the Actual Live Human Baby Killing Is A-OK With Us Act, because I’m pretty sure infanticide isn’t legal or “normalized” in the US or anywhere on this planet. And in the US, at least, abortion rights (not to mention abortion providers) are under pretty much constant attack.
Mr. Alpha also suggests that male violence is just a sort of side effect of men being such hard workers and deep thinkers and shit:
Men commit more crime because men do more of anything, that is apart from self-obsessed complaining. This is the Y-chromosome explanation that radfems are so fond of, except they miss out the part that if there’s no Jack the Ripper then there’s no Einstein either, and it’s kind of hard to be a career grrl if men haven’t invented corporations and desks yet. Men are proactive as women are reactive, which in laymen’s terms means we get shit done.
Also, mammoths, we hunted them to feed you, etc.
Not content to blame male violence on women, Mr. Alpha ends by suggesting that he won’t really mind if some men — wink, wink — wise up and start directing some of this violence at the ladies who made them all violent in the first place.
The majority of violence committed by men, which is encouraged or outright instructed by women, as described above, is committed against other men. Thus for the most part, it can be described as female violence against men, delivered via proxy. …
If, however, these machinations happen to backfire, and a man who has been trained into criminal violence turns on his trainers, who am I to care?
Gosh, men in the “sphere” sure do love to fantasize about ladies getting beaten up by men, don’t they?
Dude, please, go your own fucking way already. The farther you go, the better.
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHA!!!!!
“Showered in pussy” is such a yucky phrase. I’m picturing disembodied vulvas raining out of the sky, splattering on people and pavement.
Quick and simple American history of abortion: Not illegal until the mid-19th century. Illegal for just over 100 years, then Roe v Wade in 1973.
In short, abortion was illegal for one brief century, not illegal the rest of the time.
But I am entirely unsurprised that this asshole has no knowledge of history.
Male violence against women is really just female violence against men. Makes perfect sense.
I find it funny how almost every time an MRA says something pertaining to hir ideology, I get a worse impression of the movement.
Men commit more crime because men do more of anything, that is apart from self-obsessed complaining.
Oh the irony.
Blockquote fail 🙁
“Men commit more crime because men do more of anything, that is apart from self-obsessed complaining.”
If this isn’t crystal clear proof that this guy is a complete idiot, I don’t know what is.
And if men are so superfantastic and all, why is it on women to enforce morality by rewarding pussy only to those mr. Alpha regard as deserving?
I want to know what Cerberus Alpha has accomplished, since he’s a superior man and all. I doubt he ever gets shit done, unless you count him making a crappy blog.
Honestly, where are these “alpha males”? Given these whiny, hateful jerks who live in their own paranoid fantasy world, are alpha males that bad compared to them?
And what legal restrictions are there on “politically incorrect” speech, I wonder? I mean, if it was illegal to say misogynist shit, the entire MRM would be locked up by now.
Also, yet another MRA who uses disgusting objectifying language to describe find sexual partners. “Showered with pussy?” Seriously? It’s as if he doesn’t even think that women and girls are human beings. Oh wait…
MRAs/PUAs/MGTOWs are beginning to make me hate the word “pussy” because it reminds me of their gross objectification.
re: violence by proxy
Does this work the other way? When a woman is violent, is it really the fault of a man using her to commit violence by proxy? If only the alpha men would stop using their sexiness to manipulate straight women, forcing them to be violent!
Entitled men who think they can explain the world away in their dumb ass tropes and anecdotes. Dudes, I don’t think this will be the first time you’ve heard this, but…you realllllllly ought to get out more, meet some more diverse people, get a hobby aside from finding a way to find fault with everything women do and a way to blame women for everything, etc.
“Feminism makes it illegal simply to exist as a man.”
This reminds me of the kinds of melodramatic statements I’d make while arguing with my parents in middle school after getting grounded or some shit. BRB Cerberus, have to grab my microscope so I can find the world’s tiniest violin to serenade you.
His fan, handbanana, said
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So if Cerberus Alpha and his buddies get to take credit for anything that gets built, does that mean women can tell them “Get back outside and build me an apartment complex” in response to any kitchen or sandwich jokes? That seems fair to me.
@thebionicmommy – No, it doesn’t, because if the Alpha Male’s sexiness manipulates the straight woman that means she is far too in touch with her sexuality and is obviously a cock carousel jockeying mega-skank.
Ah and here we have yet another classic example of MRA’s finding ways to blame absolutely everything and anything on Women and Feminists.
They just rehash the same old tropes again and again.
Hey let’s think of other completely random things to blame women for!
It’s been raining today.
Women’s fault because they are shallow and materialistic and we are using up the planets resources by buying lady shit and causing climate change!
The kitchen in my student accommodation is gross and smelly because none of the guys ever do their washing and up and leave dirty plates and pans with left over food in them out on the side for weeks.
Women’s fault because we should be doing all the washing for them because manly mens can’t be expected to act like adults and clear up for themselves!
Oooh. Bad examples. Einstein was one of those “bookworms” who was a serious womaniser. Not a tattoo or a bit of violence, and yet he was like an olden days Woody Allen, who’s hardly the world’s most successful strongman himself.
As for Jack the Ripper, well that right there is a misandry. Inspector Abbeline, one of the investigating officers thought it was *Jill the Ripper*. Here’s a man making stereotypical assumptions on this whole men and violence thing.
I’d say he should research, but who am I kidding? Einstein or the Ripper killer are just names he heard in school and trotted out without caring about whether they’re in context or not. It would probably weaken his lady-punching skills if he had to trace all those words across the screen and learn stuff.
Ha, now Gawker’s just trolling the MRM (Who will get pissed by that paragraph and not read what the post is actually saying about employment in this country).
http://gawker.com/moms-become-top-earners-in-4-of-10-households-men-beco-510285760
I guess there are only three kinds of people in the world: thugs with shaved heads, empathetic bookworms, and girls.
@babylawyer
Yep, that’s true. It’s funny how these guys have it all set up so that nobody can turn their arguments around and use them back at them.
“Men commit violence to get showered by pussy” = good argument, proves women suck
“Straight women commit violence to get showered by dick” = bad argument, also proves women suck
I think this guy based his theory on cheap 80s movies where the need gets laughed at while the asshole bad boy gets the girls.
LOL. Someone suggested Cerebrus Alpha submit this to A Voice for Men. He says, “I doubt AVfM would accept submissions like this. It might be offensive to the women who run the site.”
@booburry
Samantha Baker is a hypergamous bitch! Sixteen Candles is misandry!
I just…I know misandry isn’t a thing, but if it were, this is pretty close to it. Does he have such a low opinion of men that he thinks they’ll just do whatever commanded, as long as the orders come from a woman’s sexy voice? Huh. If that’s the case, why won’t Sir Briz fold and put away his towels when I ask him to in a sexy voice? Is there something wrong with my pitch?!?!