After yesterday’s horribleness, here’s a bit of MRA pontificating that’s mostly just absurd. In the Men’s Rights subreddit, our dear old friend OuiCrudites spells out the Seven Step Plan that is destroying men today. He doesn’t explain 1) who exactly is taking these steps, or 2) why exactly they want to destroy men, but, you know, I think we can just assume 1) the evil feminist gynomatriarchy/women in general and 2) EEEEEEVIL.
Interesting that two whole steps out of the seven here involve complaints about “females” dating thuggy alpha bad boys instead of decent, hard-working nice guys like those you might find posting thoughtful comments on gender relations in helpful list form on Reddit.
@Daintydougal
Don’t you mean:
Australians have the best sayings. Fact.
For extra emphasis, I think it should be in capslock. FACT!
Wasn’t there some troll at some point who ended everything with – and thats a fact?
I was watching Australian masterchef and they kept saying ‘think outside of the square’. In the UK its generally box…I was just tickled by it…
@Marie
You know, the first thing I thought when I read this was “aren’t these the same fuckers who think not getting laid is like a billionty times more horrifying than rape?”
@dainty dougal
I think that was and that’s real. But I can never keep my trolls straight…
I know black fedora just ended a sentence with fact. so it was fresh in my mind.
Ah, yes it was And Thats Real. Amazing. I am ashamed of my ignorance.
Manboobzers: “Hahaha oh god, that video was hilarious! Kittens are so adorable, they’re the best!”
Boring Fedora: “Oh, so you think male suicide is funny?”
Manboobzers: “No.”
Boring Fedora: “See? Undeniable proof that feminism is evil!”
@because science
Accurate XD
Don’t mra’s usually blame feminism for everything they don’t like about modern pop culture?
Then again, Bay’s movies usually have lots of explosions and guns and “hot babes” and men beating up explosions and shooting the explosion with a gun to save the “hot babe” and the world, so maybe mra’s would like them?
Boring fedora, which Michael Bay movies have you watched the most times?
I have one! Dinosaurs went extinct millions of years ago. Mra’s decide feminism is somehow responsible. How? Go!
Dinosaurs aren’t real. The bones were planted by feminists who hate religion. BAM
Oh, there it is: The movies portray all women as hot, which is complimentary, but sometimes they portray men as being unattractive or maybe having flaws or something, which is demeaning. Therefore Michael Bay hates men.
Dinosaurs, that’s a difficult one…
Here goes: Most dinosaurs weren’t very smart, but one was. He was very smart. Unfortunately (for the rest of the dinosaurs), he was also a beta dinogina. He realized that in the future, the planet would be ruled by humans. And that half of those humans would be females. And females are interchangeable with feminists, when MRAs need them to be anyway. And those females would need things, like iPhones and makeup and push up bras and cushions and scented fucking candles. Those females would need those things to satisfy the wants and desires created by the “You go, grrrl” society created by feminists like Oprah Winfrey and whoever runs Cosmo. And the manufacture of those things would require lots and lots of fossil fuels. And fossil fuels would require … fossils. So he made up a story about a big asteroid that was about to crash into the earth, dooming them all, and convinced them the best thing they could do was drown themselves in swamps. And so all the dinosaurs, even the females, killed themselves. For feminism.
I shall pass that on to my boss. I pinched it from him. 😀
Who says dinosaurs are extinct?
It’s funny I’ve came back to this site. I remember when these “Seven Steps” would actually make sense to me. But now I try to read these posts and watch the MRA videos that many of them would post. Now it’s like they are just typing random words on the keyboard or just babbling, because I cannot truly understand their logic anymore. Every time I go back to work or just merely talk to women for friendly chit chat, the more I realize how detached most of these people are from reality. I used to agree with a lot of MRA shit, but after getting out there to make something great out of myself, I’ve come to the strange feeling that the MRA shit online borders on a cult.
They seem to love to play on a young man’s insecurities with women to get them to join. Did that girl reject you? Oh, it’s not because she just wasn’t interested in you, it’s actually because we live in this matriarchy where women fuck thugs and use a good guy like you. I hate that. You are taking a confused young man and warping his mind by doing that, it’s literally disgusting. It’s hard for me to actually hate MRAs themselves because I have to think about all the innocent men/boys who were sucked into that toxic circle jerk, only to subtly affect other innocent people with their toxic reasoning.
Ever since I’ve left MRA thought behind, and really, radical gender politics in general behind, my life really has improved. I now think about my relationships in terms of individuals and not broad categories like “gender”. It’s no longer, “She disagreed with me, women cannot understand logic” but “He/She disagreed with me, maybe his/her point of view has some valid points as well” (I’m also a better, more reasonable person in general, regardless of gender. Go figure). I’ve even realized that at one point, I was a bad person who just thought about people in terms of sex exclusively and would feign friendships with women for it, do I even need to say that it failed everytime?
Point is, is that I understand from experience how MRAs are. They do not understand themselves, let alone other people. Few truly care about others depending how deep in the rabbit hole they are, they may give you a v-hug when you are sad but be sure to count on them to hound you when you are showing the slightest sign of dissent. If you are a young man who is confused about the world around him, don’t join any MRA/MGTOW/Loveshy/etc. group. For the love of God, don’t! Really, you shouldn’t take anything for face value in life, unless it’s raw experience and even then you should have several experiences not one or two. Which is one of the many issues MRAs and friends have, limited experiences parroted by others in an echo chamber. You are better off going outside, talking to people, making something good out of yourself, whilst keeping an open mind. You will find your own answers that way, from your own experience. MRAs don’t do that, it’s why you only see them online, they are too caught up in complaining about how The Simpsons is anti-male and how men in couples are pussy whipped to actually live.
There is so much I want to say, but I know that some MRAs likely view this, and this may be the only way I can spread my thought without being censored. And I would sleep a happy man if I knew that even one young man can hear from someone who has been there and done that. And if some MRAs responded or if some people would spread this so some innocent men can be saved from MRAs, I’d be even happier.
What a surprisingly specific scenario. Or are you trying to refer to some “state of nature”/evo psych thing? If so, I would point out that, in addition to the many other flaws in this logic, Homo sapiens did not evolve in or for a jungle environment. We’re savanna creatures, and have been since at least the Australopithecines.
It’s still better than Mansquito
Sounds like he’s fantasising about Mowgli or something. Tigers? Yeah, well, poor Shere Khan came to a bad end iirc. (Never could bring myself to read that book after I saw a picture of him dead.)
The whole “woman needs man to protect her” is such a joke. Who’s the man who has these tiger-repelling skills anyway? Is this some sort of Great White Hunter scenario out of a bad 1930s movie? Should The Black Fedora really be the Ecru Pith Helmet?
The trouble with this scenario is that if there are no other men around and the one that is there is sick she is not in need of protection from predatory men, so I’m sure she will do as well as anyone else hanging out in the jungle ever does what with the creepies and crawlies and all.
Y’know, if men are supposed to protect women, shouldn’t they be able to do something as simple as not rape them? Patriarchy says men can’t control themselves, but it also says men have to protect women. I think I’ll take my chances protecting myself…
Now this is the Law of the Jungle — as old and as true as the sky;
And the Wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the Wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk the Law runneth forward and back —
For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
Post daily from blog-tip to post-tip; comment deeply, but never too deep;
And remember the night is for blogging, and forget not the day is for *bleep*.
The Beta may follow the Alpha, but, AFC, when thy whiskers are grown,
Remember the Wolf is a Hunter — go forth and get *bleep* of thine own.
Keep peace withe Lords of the ‘Sphere– the Elam, the Roissy, and Fear.
And trouble not Heartiste the Effluent, and mock the Poster in his lair.
When Manboob meets with Manboobz in the Jungle, and neither will go from the trail,
Lie down till the leaders have spoken — it may be fair quotes shall prevail.
When ye argue with a Wolf of the Pack, ye must fight him present and with comments ajar,
Lest others miss part of the quarrel, and the mockery be diminished by war.
The Lair of the MRA is his refuge, and where he has made him his home,
Even the Head David may enter, even the Commentators may come.
The Lair of the Cat is his refuge, but where he has digged it too plain,
The David shall take of him a picture, and so he shall bicker at it again.
If ye quote before midnight, take backups, and least words disappear after the fray,
Lest ye frighten the men from the MRA, and your brothers go empty, angry and astray.
Ye may quote for yourselves, and your mates, and your cubs as they need, and ye can;
But quote only for pleasure of quoting, and seven times never quote an moderate MRA!
If ye plunder his screencap from a weaker, repost not all in thy pride;
Pack-Right is the right of the meanest; so leave him the link to his site.
The Kill of the Pack is the meat of the Pack. Ye must repost it from whence it lies;
And no one may carry away of that qoutation to his lair, or he lies.
The Cap of the Boob is the quote of the Boob. He may do what he will;
But, till he has given permission, the Pack may not cite of that Kill.
Troll-Right is the right of the Yearling. From all of the blog he may be mocked
Full-gorged when the anger has arisen; and none may refute him the trolling claim.
Lair-Right is the right of the Manbewbz. From all of her year she may claim
One haunch of each quote for her litter, and none may deny her the same.
Cat-Right is the right of the Father — to post by himself for his own:
He is full of a thousand cat pictures; he is judged by the quality alone.
Because of his age and his biterness, because of his gripes and his maw,
In all that the Law leaveth open, the word of your Head Alpha is Law.
Now these are the Laws of the Jungle, and many and mighty are they;
But the head and the hoof of the Law and the haunch and the hump is — Mock!
For when fools come quietly marching, too busy and teeming with thoughts they must bray
we quietly wonder, us Manboobs, when will this latest troll go away?
The gentle fedora, that wielder, of something so black and pristine
He really isn’t quite as clever, as he might otherwise seem
And when put into words like a poem, this statement is simply thus:
You can’t make us feel stupid, we’ve got your blog to give us a buzz
And even with your coy attempts at mansplaining, the answer is simply not to fuss
you’re not going to dictacte the conversation
You can’t call yourself the boss of us.
@Fibinachi: That was beautiful.
Asshat is getting boring, so here’s a few more Troll to English translations. Strangely, they all seem to be quotes or lyrics this time.
“Suddenly we have Men Going Their Own Way who do not fit the mold of what men are ‘supposed’ to be.” Translation: “My shadow’s the only one that walks beside me. My shallow heart’s the only thing that’s beating. Sometimes I wish someone out there will find me. Till then I walk alone.”
“Basically.. being in the jungle with a man who gets sick is pretty scary for a woman.” Translation: “Welcome to the jungle, we’ve got fun and games. We got everything you want, honey, we know the names.”
“We are not slaves to our dark side.” Translation: “You already… have, Luke. You were right. You were right about me.”
“After all- is is usually women who bully other women about appearance.” Translation: “Me fail English? That’s unpossible!”
“Unfortunately feminism has created an authoritarian culture by which everyone needs to know that you are a cis/bi/bdsm/catlover or whatever.” Translation: “When no one was looking, feminists took forty cakes. They took 40 cakes. That’s as many as four tens. And that’s terrible.”
I just want to commend David for his brilliant graphic as usual. Do you actually own that magazine copy? And if so, what IS it that “men should tell their wives about sex?” Because I’m burning with curiosity,.
The author featured Shailor Upton Lawton was a practicing psychiatrist who died in the 1960s. He wrote at least two other books, “The Sexual Conduct of Teenagers” and “The Sexual Behavior of Wives.” both out of print sadly.
Patriarchy is a protection racket.