So “dating” guru Roosh has a post up on his Return of Kings blog by another self-professed dating guru, Alex Matlock, who rates various types of “bad sex” according to the type of female partner who’s involved in them, including such charmingly named types as “The one that tries too much (aka The Disaster)” and “The one that doesn’t move (aka The Starfish or The Doll).”
I expected a good deal of standard-issue manosphere misogyny in Matlock’s list, but I honestly couldn’t make it past his description of what he regards as the second-worst type of female sex partner: “The one that’s scared (aka The Virgin).” Because what he’s describing doesn’t sound so much like “bad sex” as “date rape.”
[TRIGGER WARNING for what follows; emphasis mine.]
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This girl doesn’t necessarily have to be a virgin because she can still act the part many years after she’s popped that priceless cherry. She will usually look at you with fear in her eyes as if she has no idea about what’s going to happen. She gently pushes you away as if she’s not ready for the event and when it does happen she continues to act like it’s the first time. She usually sits in some extremely awkward positions that make you give up and just go missionary. This girl will eventually bust your nut but she’ll surely leave you with a sense of disappointment and/or guilt.
Uh, Mr. Matlock, I’m hoping for everyone’s sake that this is a hypothetical “humorous” scenario you’ve come up with for the sake of this article and not something you’ve been a part of in the actual real world on a regular basis, because, unless you’ve left out that portion of the hypothetical events in which the woman in question clearly and unequivocally consents to having sex with your hypothetical protagonist here, what you’ve just described as “bad sex” (for the hypothetical dude) is actually a description of, well, rape from the point of view of the rapist.
In which case that twinge of guilt your hypothetical protagonist hypothetically feels is probably just the tiny part of his hypothetical self that’s still human reacting to the fact that he JUST (hypothetically) FUCKING RAPED SOMEONE.
MRAs and PUAs and manospherean assholes generally like to pretend that consent is some weird and mysterious thing, but it’s really not. Here’s a hint: if a women looks at you with fear in her eyes and pushes you away all while sitting in a position that makes sex difficult …. all that means NO.
The fact that Matlock — despite those twinges of guilt — still doesn’t regard this as the worst kind of “bad sex” (for the guy) but merely the second-worst adds a certain level of absurdity to the horror.
Given Roosh’s publication of this piece by Matlock, and the fact that he himself has already confessed to committing what would be considered date rape by American standards by having sex with at woman too inebriated to give consent, perhaps it’s time to stop referring to Roosh as a dating guru and to start referring to him as a date rape guru.
I don’t really have anything else to say.
Here, as brain bleach, are some cats with smaller versions of themselves:
marie
Not all boyfriends make you feel the center of the universe and some men make you feel like the center of the universe simply by buying you a cup of coffee.
Not the same thing at all.
Ik, r? 😉
…The “worst” effect a push-up bra can have is that it makes the wearer’s breasts look larger than they really are. That’s not manipulation and you know that. Game, on the other hand, is creepy, rapey, and very misogynistic. There’s no fucking comparison whatsoever.
@The Black Fedora:
Your terminology is inconsistent.
A push up bra would be female peacocking
Just like the ink pens you link on your site is cited as an example of male peacocking.
If a push up bra was female game, ie, a set of behaviours intended to maximize the potentiality of attracticting and seducing a partner (Definition of Game mine, you might disagree), you’d be saying that the only thing a woman brings to a relationship is, well, themselves.
Their bodies.
While men learn to be funny, charming, charismatic, the person they were meant to be, born to be, the man in their heart of hearts…
… women put on lipstick, wear a push up bra and use a mini skirt?
That’s what you are saying, right?
Well, either you believe that Game is about learning a set of behaviours, or you believe that women are meatpuppets with nothing to offer but their flesh.
Which is it?
And how does it relate to PC attitudes regarding Einstein and his role on the War?
Fedora really isn’t responding to most of the things we are saying. It is REALLY annoying.
@augochlorella
Well, clearly those are evil things that turn men off and should not exit XD
@the black fedora
Then why did you interpret me saying there wasn’t one for me as ‘intentionally single’? Also…I’m gay here, but other ladies of manboobz: Can a man make you feel like the center of the universe by buying you coffee? Seems unlikely to me, but maybe I’m not entirely sure what ‘center of the universe’ should feel like.
He did it again.
None of my boyfriends have made me feel the center of the universe. We don’t have the technology for that yet.
The irony is fucking killing me.
@melody
I’ve kinda gotten used to it by now :/ I do think he’s annoying though.
Marie
Ah.. womens intuition. You can tell a man is a manipulator by.. just knowing.
I once made someone feel like the centre of the universe by buying them a cup of coffee.
It was a nice place – this little bar in Tunguska. Nice place.
The ensuing gravitonic singularity collapse was pretty hefty though, before it pulled itself entirely into a paralel topography realm.
Push up bras are misandry!
augo
You should find one. I really think it is possible.
vs
I’ve never seen a clearer example.
Reading Comprehension: What It Isn’t.
This explains everything about Fedora.
This one isn’t fun at all. He’s just icky.
Better trollz plz.
@black fedora
No you disingenuous little shit, there is this actual thing where you can actually respond to people by what they actually do. FFS. Not that hard. It’s called ‘fucking interacting with people’ and in the case of PUAs actually reading what they write and realizes what they describe sounds a fuck a lot like manipulation.
You disingenuous fuck. Don’t pretend that you don’t know what she said.
Nobody cares what you think, fedora.
Fedora……
Have you read PUA blogs at all? Because THEY say they are manipulating. They admit to all sorts of things online.
PUAs can be honest about one thing, and deceptive about others. It’s like they were complex beings.
As to the whole , “center of the world thing,” who cares about that? Oh, wait, you are saying that a woman needs a man to make her feel special. What bollocks.
Tell you what; how about you explain why having a man make you feel, “the center of the universe,” is relevant to the conversation.
While you’re at it, how about you explain RAPE GAME, why you think THE KKK, and NAZIS are all cool.
P.S. about the honest in one thing and dishonest in a related thing… See Eurosabra; or go back to my questions about Conservative consistency.
Alex. Hi.
If you read back you will see I completely approve of push up bras. Just as most women approve of a man who can make them feel great. Unfortunately because this is manboobz everything men do is suspect.. including making women feel great.
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seriously dude
Actually, I like to feel great without needing a man, kthnxbye.
Melody
I have already said I agree with you. Their is a guy called Ross Jeferies that you should cover if you have not already done so. Very odd.. and thankfully on the way out.
Pfffffft….I think he missed my joke.