The Men’s Rights subreddit has a new favorite lady! The one in the pictures above, if you haven’t guessed. Her name is Sonia Verstappen, and until recently she was a sex worker in Brussels; she’s also an activist for the legalization of sex work. The stills above are apparently from a documentary called Sex Workers and Proud.
The Men’s Rights Redditors who love her don’t actually know any of this. They just love her because she’s a women who apparently thinks hysterical, man-destroying American lesbians have taken over feminism.
This little set of screenshots has been posted to the Men’s Rights subreddit several times before, and I’m pretty sure it’s always gotten a positive response, but never quite as positive as it’s gotten this time: as I write this, it’s been sitting comfortably in the #1 spot on the subreddit’s main page for some time, and has garnered more than twelve hundred net upvotes. The headline? “Wise words.”
[EDITED TO ADD: I stand corrected: On one previous occasion three months ago, the same collection of screenshots recieved more than 1900 upvotes and generated more than 500 comments, making it the 18th most popular post of all time in the Men’s Rights subreddit. Men’s Rights Redditors can’t get enough of this lady they don’t know anything about!]
The main debate going on amongst the regulars is whether or not the man-hating feminists in question are really lesbians or not. No, really. The regulars have all sorts of interesting theories on the subject. And by “interesting,” I mean “ignorant and homophobic and generally just … well, read it.”
I mean, even setting aside Idiopathic77’s rather limited understanding of the mechanics of lesbian sex (and sex in general, come to think of it), that’s just … weird. I guess this sort of discussion is what happens when you learn about feminism entirely from the Men’s Rights subreddit and YouTube trolls. It’s a bit like learning about Jewish people entirely from The Protocols of the Elders of Zion and this clip from Curb Your Enthusiasm.
But where exactly is Whisper here running across all these “lesbian separatists” and heterosexual-women-turned-lesbian-for-political-reasons?
I mean, there was once upon a time in that wild and wacky era called “the seventies” a thing called “political lesbianism” that was based on the idea of lesbianism as a choice, but it got pushed to the fringes fairly quickly, because, you know, sexuality doesn’t really work that way.
Has Whisper developed some sort of time machine? Or do women just declare themselves lesbians when he starts talking to them because it’s a quicker way to get rid of him than giving him a fake phone number? That could also explain those 20% of Florida women who apparently gave Idiopathic77 the impression that they were lesbians of the phony, man-hating sort.
CassandraSays, yeah he has that problem pretty regularly. Gay men getting pissy when he won’t do more than kiss them or dance with them, gay men who refuse to leave his room when he makes it clear that he doesn’t want anything sexual to happen. As a straight woman I’ve had this stuff happen to me from men but it seems to happen far more to him and they get nastier about it…
I suppose it’s some slight consolation that the gay man who told him that he was actually straight in this incident wasn’t trying to sleep with him and has no interest in doing so and was said in the context of a blazing row so it’s not as skeevy and manipulative, but still very much not ok.
A lot of gay men I’ve met are actually far more sexually manipulative and pressure-y than most straight men. I suppose it comes out of the whole “men always want sex” stereotype plus the hyper-sexualised nature of a lot of Gay (specifically gay, cis, men) culture.
But as a result, my friend not only tends to only date and do sexual stuff with women but he is mostly friends with women and straight men.
Did anyone else read this in Pinkie Pie’s voice?
@LBT
I highly recommend snakes as pets for the not-yet-endowed-with-a-fully-functioning-frontal-lobe. They eat rarely and it’s not the end of the world if one is a few days with the rodent. They have to be cleaned up after only as often as they eat. With their slow metabolisms, they’re pretty hardy and long-lived. And depending on the species and the individual, they can handle interaction daily or rarely.
Plus they’re fucking awesome.
Jeez Manboob.
I guess I need to comment more because these posts are getting kind of droll.
But hey, sorry man but I been fucking busy.
I got a new girl friend. Seems she read all my posts and comments and she contacted me. Amazing that women would want bad boy misogynists because they are bad boy misogynists isn’t it?
Funny how all that Roissy shit seems to work. I was advising this 63 year old guy on dealing with his ex and he just came back and raved at how 100% of what I said and what I said to do was true and worked. Fucking amazing huh?
I explained the whole Alpha Widow thing, the whole solipsism thing, why asshole game works, some push-pull, about how women feel so entitled to special treatment due to biological and social conditioning they are unable to fully appreciate men’s sacrifices, how they are driven by indignation in the same way men are driven by power, and the big one, how to build rapport.
What you do is pretend your are listening to them and nod every now and then, and repeat back what they say in the form of some made-up bullshit story that echos their values. He used my advice and now she is actually considering getting back with him. Fucking amazing huh?
I mean these women just gotta be killing you. Here you are working your ass off to refute all this shit we say and then your girls are out there just making a fool and liar out of you by doing exactly what we say they do.
So I gotta apologize for leaving you here on your own like this to come up with original material other than bashing Paul Elam. And I see you find this particular weirdo story about this “former sex worker” worthy of blogging about and given all that is going on right now in the ‘sphere, I guess you need some guidance on shit you should really get fucking indignant about.
I would say the Patricia’s Smartphone piece from Roosh did a fuck of lot more damage than some ex-hooker saying she doesn’t like lesbian feminists (seems redundant doesn’t it? Small shrimp, big jumbos, lesbian feminists, whatever)
So lucky for you it’s raining this Memorial Day weekend and I’ll try to toss something together for you. Ok, ‘boob (Us being so close and all, I figured I should give you shorter nickname).
Oh, and ‘Boob, like I saw you indirectly referring to me as a misogynist. Man, how many times do I gotta tell you buddy? I am a fucking woman hater. Stop confusing me with those other guys. Jeez.
So I’ll try to get something in this weekend, K?
Cool story, bro.
Your ex was here and pretty much confirmed what a toad you are. Won’t be long before your new gf realizes what you think about women.
Anyone else reminded of those women who marry serial killers on death row?
It is especially ironic that you post this directly after a conversation about how the bi among us are treated by lesbians.
Minty may be the most boring person in the history of the internet.
I think you’re confused about why people object to PUA. It’s not because it doesn’t work. It’s because it’s wrong.
A lot of it works by exploiting the social conditioning that women have had drummed into them since birth, like don’t be too forceful, be polite even if he gives you the creeps, if he ignores your “no” just go with it so he won’t hurt you. It’s morally bankrupt to intentionally manipulate a person’s vulnerabilities until they give you sex. (I usually use “have sex with you”, but that’s not what’s happening for PUAs.)
PUAs are even worse than men who do this unthinkingly, because PUAs know exactly what they’re doing and why. It’s like the difference between having your foot stepped on and stomped on.
Also, you’re a misogynist.
As a female feminist once observed, So long as God is (thought of as) a Straight Male, Straight Males are (thought of as) Gods.
Not only is he a misogynist, he’s a fucking deadbeat. Fuck off Minter. You’re a dull asshole.
I just can’t make myself focus enough to read more than a couple of sentences of his crap, it all blends into a congealed mass of “blah blah I’m awesome and women are terrible blah blah my penis, blah”.
He’s another graduate of the Poorly Translated Appliance Manual School of Writing. Most MRAs seem to be.
To be fair, there’s also the If This Prose Was Any More Purple Prince Would Sue You For Stealing His Costumes school of MRA prose.
Ugh, the shitty writing and constant repetition is infectious. Someone pass me the antidote.
What is the antidote? Gin? Kitten pics? More cowbell?
Some shrimps reach almost 25 cm or larger in size.
But you’re probably too indignant to care.
The antidote is well-written prose, which pretty much rules out anything related to the MRM.
@LBT hooray for an actual room! *throws confetti*
@Horseshit what is up with that parenthetical? I honestly don’t even get what you’re going for there.
@David at this rate you’re gonna end up needing a troll spreadsheet, complete with aliases and moderation status. Fortunately, a significant number of them will be Mr Al, and most of the rest will be other repeat offenders, so updating won’t be too hard.
Amusing, in an odd or whimsical way? Well, thanks for putting a stop to that.
Oh, Minty. I see your rationalization hamster is doing double duty this week.
I’m not sure you know what “droll” means.
A woman =/= all women. I don’t understand why this is so hard for you guys to understand. No one here has denied the existence of FemRAs and other female misogynists/woman-haters.
…blah blah manosphere neologisms, blah blah…
Amazing that a woman who thinks she’s being listened to and engaged with is interested in the guy? If this is meant to be an example of a woman going for an asshole, it’s a poor one, since the way you told it, she doesn’t know he’s an asshole. Indeed, this would seem to be a woman going for a nice guy…
But he’s so easy to bash!
For the 182648305th time: this blog is not a report on the manosphere. This blog is for mocking misogyny. You want the Manosphere Daily News, start your own damn blog.
So much more damage that no one even knows or cares what article you’re talking about.
How clever.
the shoe fits, it quacks like a duck, and we don’t care how it makes you feel: you are a misogynist. Cry moar.
I just feel a pressing need to share this every time Minter visits:
No need to ban Horseshit. Just put “feminist lie” in the moderation filter.
Sorry, Mark Minter, but we already have a resident overcompensating manosphere jackass (several, in fact). We’ll be sure to hold onto your application, and give you a call if there’s any new openings. Thanks for your made-up story, though.
@Historiphilia: That “so it was just a phase thing” happened to a friend of mine the other way around. She’s bi, met a woman, things got very serious, they moved in together, and lived together for years as a monogamous couple. Eventually though they broke up, and after this, my friend started dating a man. Another friend of both of us told me “but… Wasn’t she a LESBIAN?” As if a bi woman becomes a lesbian by living with another woman.
@Dvärghundspossen, that’s a familiar story to my Bi friends as well. A man in this case, he’s Bi and was in a fairly lengthy relationship with a man in the past but most recently has mainly dated women, his parents asked him if he wasn’t gay any more.
Oh and in things that might interest you guys, several of my Bi friends are thinking of starting a campaign to ask the UK media to stop using the term “Gay marriage” and use either “Equal” or “Same sex” marriage instead. I’m going to be very likely helping them out in an ally capacity.