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Alpha Dogging it with the Red Pill Subreddit

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So I spent a little time reading through The Red Pill subreddit yesterday and if there’s one thing that Red Pill Redditors aren’t, it’s fucking betas. No fucking way. They’re like the total fucking opposite of betas. And by that I mean they are ALPHA DOGS 4 LIFE.

Case in point: The totally rad insults they use to put the bitches in their place, as collected together in the recent thread “What Is The Most Cutting Insult You Have Said To A Woman Infield?” I mean, even the fact that they HAVE such a thread is totally ALPHA DOG but just listen to this ALPHA DOG shit they totally really say to women in real life totally for real:

GROWUP
That’s right! Emphasis totally his! In your face, old bitch!

I mean, that’s up there with Oscar Wilde’s famous line “shut up, bitch, I’m like Oscar Wilde and shit.”

Oh, but wait here’s another one:

wonderbread

Get it? Because she was dressed like WONDER WOMAN, but WONDER BREAD is a kind of FOOD. And if you were to eat a comically large amount of food — say, an entire factory’s worth of it — you would probably get very very FAT.

So by saying this he was implying that she was FAT.

So funny! And ALPHA as FUCK, if you’ll excuse my use of sentence enhancers for a moment. NOT THAT I NEED TO ASK YOUR PERMISSION TO SENTENCE ENHANCE. HOO-AH! DO YOU EVEN LIFT?

Hell, the Red Pillers are so ALPHA AS FUCK that some of them literally face down terrorists during their day job in law enforcement, then fuck their female partners that very night, then go to the RedPill subreddit to ask the assembled ALPHA AS FUCK Redditors for some romantic advice just in case they’re acting maybe a little too much like a beta with oneitis, even after that whole staring down terrorists thing.

donebeta

You might need to read that whole thread to see just how totally ALPHA AS FUCK it is. And obviously there’s no chance whatsoever that DoneWithBeta is making any of it up, I mean, who would do that, just go on the internet and make things up? That is so totally not alpha, why would anyone associated with the Red Pill subreddit do such a thing?

Oh, wait, it turns out that the post might just have been a little bit of an internet joke, and that DoneWithBeta’s story might just have been borrowed a teensy bit from the 2010 action comedy MacGruber. Apparently, none of the regulars in the Red Pill subreddit are beta enough to actually go to movies, because none of them noticed. But, hey, they did give the guy some totally ALPHA DOG ADVICE, which would have worked out awesome if the story had been real and the Red Pill mods hadn’t pussied out and deleted the thread (which is still there to read, even if it’s not visible on the subreddit any more).

Also there was a whole other fake relationship advice thread based on the plot of Othello that the Red Pillers thought was totes real but that’s because ALPHA DOGS DON’T READ SHAKESPEARE.

Need I remind you that FEMINISM IS DOOMED and that we’re going to RIDE THIS BITCH TO THE BOTTOM?

ridebitch

Yippie-ki-yay, sentence-enhancers!

Thanks to all those sniveling beta manginas and bitches in the Blue Pill subreddit for pointing me to some of this amazing ALPHA DOG shit.

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Ms Getta Lode
Ms Getta Lode
11 years ago

I like in particular their usage of “feminists” instead of “women” to avoid being called misogynists, then contrast “feminists” to “men”. Forgot to complete that substitution, fellas.

Kittehserf
11 years ago

They might as well write “misogynists” instead of “men” since they seem to think it’s the defining attribute of a Real Man – they hate male feminists too, though not nearly as much as they hate women, whether feminists or not.

Rabukurafuto
Rabukurafuto
11 years ago

Regardless of their age, a lot of these manosphere guys seem to be mentally stuck in high school. And the obsession with hypermasculine “alpha” behaviors is a way of overcompensating for when they were nerds who sat by pining over the cute girl who ended up dating the captain of the football team or whatever.

I read that this is the biggest issue male nerds tend to have: instead of examining traditional notions of masculinity and challenging them, potentially becoming feminists themselves (or at least recognizing them as allies), they instead try to prove that no, they really are that masculine and tough! They just have a different way of showing it, and hate everything feminine!

athywren
athywren
11 years ago

Does anyone else read “sentence enhancers” and think of this?

athywren
athywren
11 years ago

^that link was meant to start at 13 seconds… damned embedded links!

eumenidis
eumenidis
11 years ago

I wonder how many of the MRAs who so love to assert that every aspect of society’s infrastructure was “built and maintained by men” are actually involved, even peripherally, in maintaining that infrastructure, let alone adding to its construction. Considering how ignorant & dysfunctional they seem to be, I’d think not many.
As for the boast that “feminists need the government, men don’t”–I’m sure there are millions of men either caught in civil wars who’d disagree, & MRAs who apparently expect that without a pesky government getting in the way they’d be able to set up kingdoms of their own, well, I’m reminded of novelist John Scalzi’s scathing remark that instead of becoming rulers of their own domains, most Randites would quickly wind up as “objectivist jerky” without government institutions & infrastructure. I don’t doubt that most MRAs would end up hanging right next to the Randites in some psychopath’s smokehouse.

BritterSweet
11 years ago

@ athywren

I was actually thinking of this:

marcilannister
marcilannister
11 years ago

It’s funny reading this post right now because presently I am reading The Game, by Neil Strauss and I actually understand the terminology. Before that, I would have had to click every link and Google several things. Since becoming aware of the subculture, I am still amazed daily that this is really a thing. I mean I almost can’t believe that these guys don’t realize how ridiculous they look to the rest of us. In the book he talks about carrying around a bag full of stuff, doing magic tricks and
I’m just sitting there reading this with my jaw dropped to the floor.

My first thought is, did he write this book as a joke? Like a big practical joke that would be played on strangers, kind of like when someone poisons a batch of pills at the factory but isn’t really there to witness the pain it causes his victims. It is all so surreal and at first I thought, well maybe this is just the younger people and they’ve been warped by technology and such…but there are dudes in their 40s and 50s in this subculture! It is so frigging odd, yet fascinating for the moment.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

It does sound like a mean joke to play on some clueless kid.

“Want women to think you’re really cool? Carry around a bag full of magic stuff and do tricks! That always gets their panties wet!”

It’s like he’s trying to get other guys to humiliate themselves in front of women they’re attracted to.

Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

The worst part is, to steal a Criminal Minds line (directed at the clueless Reid) — “chicks dig magic”. Ok Morgan, maybe chill on the “chicks” thing, but who doesn’t like well executed magic?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

Me? It would just make me go “wow, that’s geeky” as my libido died a painful death.

Sorry, I did say that I was every PUAs worst nightmare.

Kittehserf
11 years ago

Yeah, magic tricks don’t do anything for me, libido-wise or any other-wise. It’s like “Yeah, okay, you’ve learned conjuring. But I’d rather watch someone pointing out archaeological features on a map than watch conjuring tricks.”

(No snark there, I would.)

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

If some dude started doing magic tricks at me while attempting to pick me up I’d just be deeply confused. Like, why? Is this supposed to be turning me on or making me want to take a nap?

Kittehserf
11 years ago

I think I’d just get Springsteen’s Magic going through my head and think “He’s looking for a volunteer to be cut in half. No thanks!”

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

“Is there a bunny? When you pull out a big hat like that and put on the cloak it’s cruel not to provide people with a bunny as a reward.”

Kittehserf
11 years ago

Now that scenario would be worth seeing! 😀

marcilannister
marcilannister
11 years ago

I think magic stuff is pretty cool in the context of an actual show, with professionals and lighting and stuff like that. Somehow I think an amateur is going to be a totally different thing. Most people are just not that talented, illusion and sleight of hand are not easy skills to learn (at least if you are actually going to impress someone with them). So if some guy in a bar is doing something like that, wouldn’t most of the women and men be laughing at him, and not in a good way.

Kittehserf
11 years ago

Especially if he’s a PUA who thinks he’s So Cool. 😀

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

I’m just not seeing how, even in the most optimistic version of this scenario, random magic/card tricks in bar leads to sexytimes.

Kittehserf
11 years ago

“I’m just not seeing how, even in the most optimistic version of this scenario, random magic/card tricks in bar leads to sexytimes.”

Perhaps if it were the great Henry Gondorffdoing the card tricks …

Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

Lol, ok, maybe context was needed. One, yes, anyone liking Reid is liking geeky (1.b, geeky is a required attribute for access to my pants). Two, he’s good, real good (Hollywood good of course)

But yeah, well executed sleight of hand could be that sort of opener PUAs love. Or really, a conversation starter (again, done well)

I like geeks, did I mention that? (Like, Doctor Who or VtM, preferably both, but either or is acceptable…yes I do want to muse which vampire clan would have this sort of sexytime *is totally weird*) So maybe magic tricks just seem generically geeky and thus generally interesting?

In any case one furry hat or whatnot, not ALL THE NONSENSE. I only want to see that if it’s a costume! Exception, pocket watches are not random nonsense, please go ahead and wear one, as long as it isn’t like, a digital watch converted, thing has to have hands. (Funny little story, among the things found at my grandfather’s where multiple pocket watches, one of which is mostly just the gears, haven’t figured out what I intend to use them for, but my next Steampunk project has real gears)

Ok, I’m going to the nerd corner of shame now. As long I can take Reid with me, I am perfectly okay with this!

Kittehserf
11 years ago

I have a fob watch. I bought it years ago when I saw a photo of a miniature of Louis from a watch made around 1640, and wanted to have one like it. Pretty, but too damn inconvenient to use.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

Totally OT but that forum that GGG was wanking all over, which I found because someone linked to it on the HuffPo article about him? Apparently its main purpose is making fun of fanfiction. Why was GGG using it to promote his wacky ideas about incels and government-sponsored prostitution, you ask? No, I have no idea either.

Anyway…I started poking around because I’m avoiding work and I found this, wherein Thor and Loki are horses and…fuck, I don’t know. This is even weirder than GGG, no wonder he felt right at home.

http://www.whygodwhy.org/t3591-secind-time-to-uploudplz-be-nice-loki-and-thor-are-horses

Kittehserf
11 years ago

I’m afraid when it comes to stage magic and conjuring I tend to think of someone like James Randi, or David Copperfield, or the fictional Jonathon Creek, and my reaction’s more of distaste for them than anything else. Magic shows really aren’t my thing at all. I wouldn’t have thought to associate them with anything geeky, if it comes to that!

If someone was doing it in a pub … well, if they were practising card tricks or whatever in a corner, if I noticed, it’d be “leave them in peace,” and if they were doing tricks for an audience, I’d either watch or think they were a show-off, depending on my mood. I wouldn’t think of it as a conversation opener, let alone a pick-up effort. That’s partly ‘cos pick-up isn’t my wavelength at all, and partly ‘cos if I did think that’s what they were doing, I’d write them off as a pretentious git anyway.

Kittehserf
11 years ago

How old was the person writing that stuff about Thor and Loki? It’s like a kid in grade three.

Okay if zie wants to have a pair of horses called Thor and Loki – you could make something funny from the lighter side of their original characters – but you’d need to be able to write first.

I was a bit thrown by the “Loki is a horse” thing … wonder if she knows the story of Sleipnir’s conception and birth? :/