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A Voice for Men declares itself too important to bother to write about me, then writes about me

Man Boobz Minion disguised as female MRA.
Man Boobz Minion disguised as female MRA

I was a little saddened to read recently that A Voice for Men — the self-proclaimed “Men’s Human Rights” site that has posted an open call to firebomb government buildings in its “activism” section — will no longer be writing about little old me.

Yes, it’s true. In a recent post announcing that he would no longer be writing or caring about journalist Arthur Goldwag, who famously took on the misogyny of the Men’s Rights movement in a piece for the Southern Poverty Law Center, AVFM’s head douchebag Paul Elam  also noted that he would no longer be writing or caring about me either.

“In the early days of this site, we used to write a fair amount about David Futrelle,” Elam wrote. “He was a nice, soft target; pudgy actually.”

But now, apparently, AVFM has gotten much too important to bother with soft, pudgy nobodies like me or Goldwag or the SPLC.

We don’t mention David anymore except as a passing joke. He is just another low-end blogger with a small audience of neurotic women who talk more about cats in his comments than what he writes. It is as close to physical intimacy as the guy will ever get.

It’s a little strange how much time Elam, a fiftysomething straight man, spends thinking about my sex life, but I suppose it will be a bit of a relief not to have to read so many of these fantasies of his in the pages of AVFM. Not to mention Elam’s bizarre conspiracy theories about me — like this one. (I wonder why Elam never came forward with the proof of those allegations like he promised he would? Hmm.)

So I was a little surprised when, only one day after Elam bid me that not-very-fond farewell, AVFM’s “managing editor” Dean Esmay decided to set forth yet another conspiracy theory about me and my alleged army of evil minions.

In the midst of a long, weird, barely coherent tirade directed at a writer for Vice magazine who’d approached AVFM with some questions for its stable of female MRAs, Esmay accused my evil minions (in advance) of writing to the Viceman pretending to be female MRAs in an attempt to make female MRAs look bad:

[M]aybe … one of David Futrelle’s minions will show up in your inbox and say “yeah I’m a female MRA and I support taking rights away from women and I hate women too because we women suck, put women who have abortions in prison praise jesus blargh!” and so on and so forth, because that’s just what a whole lot of people who oppose compassion and fundamental human rights for boys and men do: pretend to be MRAs or to be quoting MRAs just to make us look bad. We’ve seen it in action more than once. At least one asshole we know of pretty much does it as a full-time gig.

Dude, I hate to break it to you, but none of my “minions” needs to pretend to be a female MRA in order to make female MRAs look bad. Female MRAs like JudgyBitch and GirlWritesWhat and TyphonBlue are already doing an exemplary job of that already. I mean, seriously, did you read JudgyBitch’s thing about pedophilia the other day? I mean, wow.

Of course male MRAs are also doing a fantastic job making themselves look terrible as well, from Warren Farrell on down to that dude who thinks “friend zoning” should be punishable by law (and the dozens of Men’s Rights Redditors who upvoted him).

But, really, no single website has done more to make the Men’s Rights movement look terrible than A Voice for Men.

Seriously, fellas (and FeMRAs), take a bow. We here at Man Boobz couldn’t do it without you. I couldn’t make up the shit you spew if I tried. (And, for the record, I don’t try.)

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CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

BTW, source. Apparently GGG is not the only “incel” with some rather worrying ideas. Page 3 has particularly large amounts of WTF quoted in the comments.

http://www.whygodwhy.org/t1774p50-love-shy

Jessay (@jessay)
11 years ago

Rammspieler is also a warped fucker.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

Check out SociallyInept. Wow.

Jessay (@jessay)
11 years ago

I feel for incels who are not hateful, horrible people because the most vocal assholes are really making it impossible for someone who has a hard time finding love but isn’t awful get taken seriously.

cloudiah
11 years ago

I’m afraid of those incels — I think they’re actually scarier than MRAs.

shigekuni
shigekuni
11 years ago

Cloudiah: but isn’t the problem these days that the bad music is sort of flat and bad, instead of awesome bad? There used to be way more awesome bad, instead of radio-friendly bad. So few countries (apart from Romania) brought their awesome game.

Jessay (@jessay)
11 years ago

Yeah the whole, “I might kill myself or someone else if I don’t have sex soon” is fucking terrifying.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

Yep. All of the very vocal incels I’ve encountered so far have triggered my fight or flight instincts in a rather dramatic way.

Awesomely bad Eurovision.

cloudiah
11 years ago

Romania was kind of awesome, wasn’t it?

Yeah, the lyrics and everything else about the bad music these days is kind of opposite of awesome bad.

Aaliyah
11 years ago

@CassandraSays

Wow. And I thought Mark Minter was hateful. X_X

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

Sorry, you need clearer visuals to get the full lulzy effect.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

I particularly like how he’s wearing the cute little hat with the Finnish flag on it over his monster costume.

gillyrosebee
gillyrosebee
11 years ago

@shigekuni, I think Wollstonecraft & Fuller are first wave. I wish Historophilia were here; she might be able to recommend some primary resources. My era is more 2nd wave and onwards, but I’m a bit rusty even there. @gillyrosebee, do you have any recommendations?

Hmmmm… Well, it’s been a while, and I too am more familiar with the Second and Third Wave theorists. However…

Wollstonecraft and Fuller, definitely, so A Vindication of the Rights of Woman and Woman in the Nineteenth Century of course. Also the Seneca Falls Declaration and related speeches of the same era by Elizabeth Cady Stanton, Susan B. Anthony (of course) and be sure to read Sojourner Truth’s Ain’t I a Woman? to balance the intersection of class and color with gender. Sarah Grimke, Lydia Maria Child (especially The History of the Condition of Women, though I believe she also had several essays and magazine pieces), Ernestine Rose (speeches mostly), essays by Matilda Gage, Catherine Booth, Isabella Beecher, Lilly Blake, Josephine Butler and Adelle Hazlett. Essays and fiction by Kate Chopin (especially The Awakening) and Charlotte Perkins Gilman (especially The Yellow Wallpaper). And don’t forget the menz (no, seriously, Mark Twain, Thomas Higginson, Thomas Webster and John Stuart Mill!)

Off the top of my head that’s all I can come up with, but there’s plenty more where that came from if you start digging.

Aaliyah
11 years ago

“Yes, I did encourage Alexius to go buy a gun and kill his crush. Yes, in fact I do admire Cho, The Columbine Duo, George Sodini and any other individual who has found the courage to do what they did and both deliver a warning to society and at the same time challenge our collective morality. And yes, I am a disgusting piece of shit for advocating violence and terrorism.”

Fixed that for him. Holy fuck this guy is without a doubt evil.

cloudiah
11 years ago

But you can always count on Finland. OMG, those costumes. OMG. OMG.

OMG.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

Did you see the part where the wings come up at about 2 minutes in?

I bet it’s even funnier if you’re drunk.

shigekuni
shigekuni
11 years ago

Yeah. Most disappointing country: Ukraine. They used to send RIDICULOUS acts to Eurovision, and I kinda started counting on them…


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfjHJneVonE

shigekuni
shigekuni
11 years ago

Hm? I posted two videos and just one of them opened as a video?

shigekuni
shigekuni
11 years ago

Cassandra: I don’t think it’s legal to watch Eurovision unless you’re plastered. That’s why I mostly skipped it this year (not safe for me to be drunk).

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

OMG OMG, I thought I was mishearing this lyric but I rewinded and nope, he actually does say “on the day of rockening”.

Oh, my people (metalhead edition), you are ridiculous sometimes.

cloudiah
11 years ago

No seriously, Mark Twain indeed, who also was one of the few notable Americans to be like “Hey people you might want to check out the near-genocidal shit the Belgians are doing in the Congo” for which I give him eternal respect.

And mad props to Sojourner Truth, who seriously is one of the people who got me interested in feminism from my background mostly interested in the civil rights and labor movements.

Thanks, gillyrosebee, for adding to my reading list.

gillyrosebee
gillyrosebee
11 years ago

Yeah, the “incels” are truly terrifying, if for no other reason than the sheer quantity of time they seem to have spent pre-justifying and building up to inflicting violence on others. I get that it sucks to be lonely, and depression can be both soul crushing and hope-killing, but the masturbatory feedback loop fantasies about killing or maiming people… No, just no.

cloudiah
11 years ago

On this, the 18th day of rockening, I say wings are good, and youtube videos sometimes randomly decide not to embed on WordPress.

And Eurovision used to be SO. MUCH. BETTER.

Maude LL
Maude LL
11 years ago

I read the posts about GGG wanting a government sponsored date program. Clearly another example of a dude asking the government to substitute for the husband-shaped hole in his life.

gillyrosebee
gillyrosebee
11 years ago

I took a super-brief look at this and it might be a helpful first place to look.

I tend to group the Marxist feminists of this period as more Marxists than feminists, but there is also Rosa Luxemburg and Emma Goldman.

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