Hey fellas! While we’re talking about the evils of the Friend Zone and possible legal sanctions against the women who so often and so maliciously put us there — and while the women are distracted by that picture of Scrooge McDuck above — I’d like to warn you of another kind of Friend Zone you need to be wary of: the “Repair Friend” Zone.
I learned of this danger from none other than Warren Farrell himself, in the pages of his book Women Can’t Hear What Men Don’t Say (which amazingly does not have the subtitle “But It’s Not Like Angry Dudes On The Internet Are Going to Shut Up Any Time Soon”).
Here’s how old Warren explains it, perhaps exaggerating the innocence of the wily female Repair-Friend Zoners:
Single moms who rely on male friends for repairs — “he’s just a repair friend” — are often unaware that the man really isn’t sacrificing his Sunday afternoon in exchange for a Sunday night dinner. The truth is, if he’s making that type of sacrifice, it’s usually because he’s interested in her.
That’s right, ladies! Men never actually want to be just friends with you. Never. And when they act friendly, it’s just because they want to [insert weird creepy Warren Farrellesque euphemism for sex here]. Only instead of making a move on you they’d rather make a move on your car, and just sort of hope you’ll get the hint.
I’ve seen many single moms who have men who they claim are “just friends” work on their cars, do repairs, help them move. They think nothing of it. (Which says it all.) When she starts dating someone seriously, the “repair friend” feels hurt and her new boyfriend feels suspicious. And Mom feels caught between a rock and a hard place, so to speak.
Is Farrell making some sort of awkward boner joke here?
Anyway, for Farrell, this is somehow all the fault of women, and feminism, or misandry, or something.
This attitude rests on a deeper foundation. Just as women who are poor turn to the government as a substitute husband (in the form of welfare and AFDC payments), so women without husbands often unconsciously turn to substitute husbands, such as dads, “repair friends,”and male neighbors.
So, fellas, be careful out there. One moment you’ll be chatting casually over the fence with the former Mrs. Jones, and the next thing you know you’ll be in her basement buried deep in her washing machine trying to fix, I dunno, whatever is inside of washing machines that might need fixing, I’m not really very mechanical.
Come to think of it a female friend of mine had me change a light bulb the other day that she couldn’t reach. Granted, I don’t want to have sex with her, and also she’s fixed my bike on several occasions and sometimes brings me cake, but, still, I think I may have just been Light Bulb Friend Zoned.
Things budmin will never do, broken down, with advice!
“Have you ever seen a man sitting on a street corner for 5 hours waiting for his baby’s mama to take him back?”
Um, no? But I did see the older MoC sitting in the apt lobby all the damned time — chillin’ in his wheelchair and watching the world go by. Pretty sure he wasn’t expecting sex when he’d crack open the inner (locked) door for people he recognized. Point? Some people enjoy people watching. Other people have either no place better to be, or just nowhere else to be. Gods knows I spent plenty of time watching bugs in the park because it was nice out and I’m fascinated by such things. You can read whatever you want into whatever situation you want, doesn’t magically make your interpretation correct.
“Y’all ladies just don’t know what it feels like to see or be a broken man.”
Ladies! Y’all don’t know what it’s like to be a man! No shit Sherlock?
As for the broken part, why do you insist on deciding that people you either know nothing about, besides where they are sitting, or have only passing acquaintance with, are broken? Dafuq?
“I will never be that guy.”
I suggest you use condoms then, or maybe just get a vasectomy if you want to be really sure you’ll never end up with a “baby mama”.
“I will never ask anything from a woman other then that she use her rational mind.”
Besides when I asked that she not take favors from any man she isn’t prepared to fuck. Cuz that turns him into a “human dishrag”.
“I will never be served with a restraining order.”
I’d advise against being abusive then, never, ever assault anyone. Really, if you pass .being a decent human being 101″ this concern should never cross your mind.
“I will never EVER sleep with another woman whose sole desire isn’t to make me happy.”
Yeah maybe just no more sex for you. Unless you meant to say “I will never sleep with a woman who’s sole desire in the bedroom is my pleasure, because my sole desire is hers”. In which case, congrats, you pass “be a better lover 101”! (Note, this assumes you passed the pre-req of “using condoms 101”)
@hellkell
A) ad hominem attack
B) ad hominem attack
C) I shorted it, so sue me..
…Is that all?
C) I shorted it, so sue me….shortened it dang it!! look what you made me do..
Note the contradiction here:
“I will never ask anything from a woman other then that she use her rational mind.”
“I will never EVER sleep with another woman whose sole desire isn’t to make me happy.”
How is it rational to have no desire other than to make bogboy happy? Apart from anything else, trying to would be an exercise in futility. He’s a dipshit MWNDGHOBW* who wouldn’t know what to do with himself if he wasn’t whining about Cruel Wimminz. I seriously suspect happiness would frighten the shit out of him and his kind, even if they recognised it when they felt it.
*man who never does go his own bloody way
Stop condoning creepy behaviors. No one said you condone sexual assault. We said you condone a behavior that tries to make women owe men for things men do out of their own free will. That is fucking creepy as hell.
You don’t get to say “stop reading my words this way” if you keep repeating the same words. You don’t get to tell people how to react to your bs.
Also, you have failed yet to prove how a) accepting favors from men and b) not reading men’s minds, is parasitic. What bugs us is you’ll say someone is a parasite for engaging in normal human behavior.
Hellkell, quoted
Spot! That! Fallacy!! Ad hominem edition!
Passing judgement on your reading material is not an ad hominem, and “start going your own way” sure as shit isn’t.
Nah, it’s not ad hominem, troll boy. We’re not saying “your arguments suck because you’re a horrible person.” We’re saying “you’re a horrible person because you’re an adherent of these misogynistic beliefs.”
Calling women parasites and then dismissing everything they might say or do since they’re parasites? An actual ad hominem!
More and more they sound to me like victorian d00dz pissing about the “servant problem”.
Budmin: I didn’t make you do anything, nice abuser logic you got there.
Learn what ad hom is. Argenti was nice enough to point it out.
Bogboy’s list of things to learn is so long already, I doubt he’ll get around to ad hominem in this lifetime.
Ok, so, serious question time.
As far as you guys are concerned, I’m a guy. There’s this girl that I like. Y’know, smart, witty, beautiful, etc. Told her my feelings. “I think you’re a great guy, but…” Blah, sucks – I am sad about this.
Anyways, time passes, we’re friends (I know, such a beta, right? Psh!) and she notes on facebook that she’s looking for something she hasn’t seen in years. I’m heading into town the next day and might know where that thing might be found, so I offer to look for it and let her know.
Does she now owe me sex? And is she a parasite if she doesn’t get all nekkid for me?
[citation needed]
I have seen the exact opposite.
That…really doesn’t make you sound any better. It makes you sound worse.
Even Rand would call you a selfish dipshit. And that’s saying something.
Those kid-size sex dolls have scarred me for life. Just be glad I can’t find a link with pictures – the ones I say were made to look like kids of about 7 or 8 and were dressed in normal kids clothes. I’m pretty jaded, but those dolls freaked me out, and so did the conversation that I read with people arguing as to why they should be legal to sell.
Ah, I see everyone’s (not) favorite shitstain is back. @budmin
The fuck? Women don’t have any more power of (hetero) guys than guys have over (hetero) women.
Then start acting like you don’t condone it.
Oh my god, why? Like every single thing I have heard about Ayn Rand has been negative…I must conduct a troll interview ASAP!
Okay, just for the record, women do have feelings, you know? Though I suppose I do not know what it’s like to be a man, not identifying as a man and all, so technically that part’s true.
Actually, what annoys me, besides your misogyny and failure to read what anyone says, is that you have a thing against citing sources. Back your shit up, or at least actually respond to people. Other wise you may as well just be talking to a squirrel.
But I like squirrels, and they seem to be less likely to bite than our friend Bud.
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Where do these trolls get all of this straw?
Ah, I suspect you might as well be talking in Bork-Troppian sub-dialect III here, athywren. Budmin’s not going to understand the idea of a guy liking a woman, let alone doing something for her simply because he can and it’d be a friendly or helpful thing to do.
@cassandrasays
gah….at first I just assumed you were talking about mini (but still clearly adult like) sex dolls, not ones that look like kids. Just…gah. WTF. and yet I still have that whole morbid curiosity thing going on where I’d probably totally click on the link with pictures…
@cassandrasays
Good point. And they are cute.
I feel like there’s a stable somewhere with a bunch of horses that are all really pissed off that MRAs keep stealing their bedding.
I wonder how many MRA heroes would scream about misandry if they knew those dolls existed and couldn’t get hold of them. It’s very easy to imagine Warren Farrell going on about them being a healthy outlet, or something.
@ Marie
Nah, there are tons of mini (as in Barbie sized or thereabouts) sex dolls in Japan that are based on anime or manga, so like, sexy lady in vampy dress with purple hair, and I have no problem with those as long as they depict adults. It’s the combination of looks like a child + is meant for the owner to actually fuck + you go to the store and buy outfits for it, presumably shopping right alongside parents who’re buying clothes for their actual children, that freaks me the hell out.
True… especially since it took me all of half an hour out of my way! That’s a whole 36 minutes I’ll never see again! I DESERVE SEXING FOR THIS SACRIFICE!! Either that, or a solid gold statue in the town square, dedicated to my valour. *practices a heroic pose*