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Spearheaders on the Cleveland abductions, Part 2: Feminists “are making Castros as fast as they can.”

Apparently this man's existence refusted the notion of the patriarchy.
Apparently this man’s existence refutes feminism.

So WF Price of The Spearhead, who responded to my previous post criticizing his and his commenters’ appalling reactions to the Cleveland abductions with thoughtfulness and maturity (by which I mean a bizarre and weirdly racist personal attack on a commenter here), has now taken offense to a darkly satirical piece the Onion ran in the wake of the revelations of what allegedly went on Ariel Castro’s house for the past 11 years.

The Onion piece wasn’t funny, exactly, nor was it meant to be; it was pretty clearly the raw reaction of someone reacting with appropriate horror to the details of Castro’s alleged crimes, which seem to surpass even the worst “man-hater’s” vision of male depravity. Price, rather missing the point, sees the Onion piece as simple “feminist man-hatred” and suggests that it proves his point all along: that patriarchy is a lie.

The Castro brothers were neither patriarchal nor privileged; they were low-life predators from the bottom of society. Not to say that low-class men are all bad people, either, but men without privilege are the most likely to commit crimes, for obvious reasons. …

The myth of male power and privilege is just that, and the Cleveland case is one more pebble on the mountain of evidence that exposes it for a lie.

Empowering men in their families will not lead to more crimes against women and girls, but fewer.

Huh. So I guess if we make all men rich, and order the police to stop responding to all “domestic disturbance” calls, all our problems will be solved!

Never mind that Ariel Castro seems to have lorded it over his now-dead ex when he was involved with her, reportedly brutalizing and terrorizing her and getting away with it in part because he threatened to further brutalize her if she testified against him. He may not have had much power in the wider world, but he certainly seems to have felt quite “empowered” in his dealings with women and girls, and the “justice” system didn’t provide any justice to his apparent victims, even before the kidnappings.

And never mind that Price continues to refer to the “Castro brothers” although the police are saying that Ariel Castro acted alone.

Despite not knowing the basic facts of the case, Price seems to like the idea of using cases like this one to push his antifeminist agenda. According to him, his attempts to use the case to “refute” the feminist idea that

male privilege [is] tied to abuse of women … really enraged them, because how dare I use one of “their” cases to point out that they are wrong. From their perspective, it should be a sacred feminist right to use these incidents against men as a political bludgeon so as to coerce more concessions, more power, etc. Some went so far as to accuse me of blaming women and feminists for the kidnappings themselves (rubbish), while a few others sent me some hate mail.

But you know, I’m going to keep it up, because they do not have the sole right to the narrative when convenient tragedies occur. …

Feminists will doubtless use examples of outrageous crimes in an effort to remove more men from their families, thereby creating both more victims and more criminals. They will use examples like the Castro brothers’ kidnapping whenever and wherever they can. We must stop them from doing so, and we must not be intimidated by their feigned moral outrage when we speak the truth about their agenda.

Dude. if you think the reactions people are having to the Cleveland abductions — or to the terrible things you and your commenters have said about them — are in any way “feigned,” then I can only suggest that you may have completely lost touch with your humanity.

Once again, the Spearhead’s commenters lived up to their past standards of moral monsterhood, continuing to put the blame for Ariel Castro’s crimes (and pretty much every other ill) on feminism and women in general.  Here are some selections. You’ll notice the one wishing death on feminists is officially “well-liked” by the commentariat there.

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The only vaguely encouraging thing in the entire discussion? That Dana’s call for urban genocide got a couple of downvotes. To the two Spearhead readers who don’t think wiping out an entire community of decent people because of the behavior of one man is a good idea, I would like to say “thanks.” And also suggest that maybe you should stop reading The Spearhead.

EDITED: Added paragraphs about Ariel Castro’s alleged brutality towards his ex, and clarification that only he has been charged, not his brothers.

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PeterVan
PeterVan
11 years ago

Ms Argenti-actually 6k workers die in Bangladesh each year and as usual almost all of them are men. Just as in the US 99% of workplace fatalities are men. But if you’re so concerned about conditions and building codes in Bangladesh then you should contact the feminist prime minister, Hasina, and make a complaint.

http://www.cnn.com/video/?iid=article_sidebar#/video/world/2013/05/02/exp-bangladesh-pm-accidents-amanpour.cnn

PeterVan
PeterVan
11 years ago

Then again, Mill was probably a major mangina for writing a book on feminism, so I guess you can’t trust his word on this.

You certainly can’t trust his judgement. He had a nervous breakdown at 20 and then was crazy enough to marry a post menopausal feminist when he was 45.

Washington, a real Alpha man, married a wealthy widow in her 20’s.

marinerachel
marinerachel
11 years ago

Who is post-menopausal at 45?

marinerachel
marinerachel
11 years ago

(Yeah, I know some people are – one of the physicians I’ve worked with was menopausal at 26 so long post-menopausal by 45 but the implication 45 = post-menopausal screams dumb, dumb, dumb.)

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Peter Van: you use “mangina” and expect us to take you seriously? Fuck right off.

And while you’re fucking off, read a damn biology text. Your ignorance about women is glaring/

MordsithJ
MordsithJ
11 years ago

Washington, a real Alpha man, married a wealthy widow in her 20′s.

Wait, he married a USED woman? Totally beta.

Aaliyah
11 years ago

You certainly can’t trust his judgement. He had a nervous breakdown at 20 and then was crazy enough to marry a post menopausal feminist when he was 45.

Another day, another MRA who shows that ze’s misogynistic almost right away.

Aaliyah
11 years ago

Ms Argenti

=S

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

Yeah let’s start with who said I was a “Ms”?

Second, what were you saying about no cheering Cassandra? Cuz pardon my cynism if I take downplaying it as hardly better.

Never mind though, we can just ignore everything I say since I’m nuts and all.

And I am really going to have to extend my annoyance at Argumentum ad Youtubem to all video. I just watched ~15 min that amounts to “labor in Bangladesh is corrupt”…in hopes that maybe some mention of the situation for male workers was mentioned, seeing how PeterVsn alluded to such.

My point in the first place? Another example of how countries with gender inequality tend to be “brutal” (we can debate the best word there, but point stands that lack of freedoms hurts, wait for it, everyone). My point with that particular example? That even countries “merely” ignoring women’s issues have Bad Bad Things. So um, yeah, thanks for proving my point? Definitely not helping the MRM point that gender inequality is good for men.

Fade
11 years ago

this guy is reminding me of whichever boring troll we had who insisted there was a “death gap”

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

Wasn’t that Joe? I don’t think he sock puppets. But yes, I have the feeling we’re headed that way, if PeterVan wasn’t a drive by troll.

epixpivotmaster
11 years ago

“healthy gender roles” holy fuck, how I laughed! These guys are a joke 😛

Aaliyah
11 years ago

Argenti, what do you think about “Mx.?” I’m curious as I think it’s an interesting attempt to make a gender-neutral Ms./Mr. I just wish I could pronounce it. X_X

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

Lol, if I knew how to pronounce it, yeah. I have a thing for x and z, poor neglected English letters that they are. But my best guess on pronouncing it is “M[i]x” and idk.

For print it’s fine though (I just don’t really see the need for such title like things…other than the condensing that PeterVan was clearly going for)

I have no strong feelings on the matter, but kinda like Mx.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

And I’m going to bed, goodnight internet.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

@ Argenti

Um, what? I am rather confused about what I said there that offended you.

katz
11 years ago

Argenti, what do you think about “Mx.?”

Is that the title Sir Mix-A-Lot uses?

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

Sorry Cassandra, I didn’t mean you’d offended me, internet lack of tones = ick. Just trying to say that excusing is really no better than cheering…and since you’d said they’d probably not be cheering if they knew about it…yeah.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

No worries. Also, if they’ve now noticed it I’m sure they’ll get to cheering after they get bored with victim blaming the kidnapping victims in Cleveland.

Lovely people, huh?

PeterVan
PeterVan
11 years ago

Tell me something. In these slum houses, which you all know about, that are on top of each other how does 1 man manage to hold 3 females for 10 years? Last year one of these girls was in the back yard naked. Why didn’t she just run away? And recently when they decided to “escape” and were breaking the door weren’t they afraid? Oh yeah, Stockholm syndrome. That’s your reply to everything.

katz
11 years ago

Men and females? I smell a Pell.

Aaliyah
11 years ago

Tell me something. In these slum houses, which you all know about, that are on top of each other how does 1 man manage to hold 3 females for 10 years? Last year one of these girls was in the back yard naked. Why didn’t she just run away? And recently when they decided to “escape” and were breaking the door weren’t they afraid? Oh yeah, Stockholm syndrome. That’s your reply to everything.

Spoken like yet another dipshit who has zero understanding of abuse victims.

Fuck off you abuse apologist.

Aaliyah
11 years ago

The sheer hatred and inhumanity I see from MRAs I’ve seen never fails to shock me, even though none of what they say is unexpected.

augochlorella
augochlorella
11 years ago

Pell’s back?

Pell, I believe you owe me a female GaoGaiGar. I can promise we’d all rather hear about that than this apologist garbage you’re spewing.

Or better yet, go away.

katz
11 years ago

I don’t know for sure. Sounds like him, though.