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Spearheaders on the Cleveland abductions, Part 2: Feminists “are making Castros as fast as they can.”

Apparently this man's existence refusted the notion of the patriarchy.
Apparently this man’s existence refutes feminism.

So WF Price of The Spearhead, who responded to my previous post criticizing his and his commenters’ appalling reactions to the Cleveland abductions with thoughtfulness and maturity (by which I mean a bizarre and weirdly racist personal attack on a commenter here), has now taken offense to a darkly satirical piece the Onion ran in the wake of the revelations of what allegedly went on Ariel Castro’s house for the past 11 years.

The Onion piece wasn’t funny, exactly, nor was it meant to be; it was pretty clearly the raw reaction of someone reacting with appropriate horror to the details of Castro’s alleged crimes, which seem to surpass even the worst “man-hater’s” vision of male depravity. Price, rather missing the point, sees the Onion piece as simple “feminist man-hatred” and suggests that it proves his point all along: that patriarchy is a lie.

The Castro brothers were neither patriarchal nor privileged; they were low-life predators from the bottom of society. Not to say that low-class men are all bad people, either, but men without privilege are the most likely to commit crimes, for obvious reasons. …

The myth of male power and privilege is just that, and the Cleveland case is one more pebble on the mountain of evidence that exposes it for a lie.

Empowering men in their families will not lead to more crimes against women and girls, but fewer.

Huh. So I guess if we make all men rich, and order the police to stop responding to all “domestic disturbance” calls, all our problems will be solved!

Never mind that Ariel Castro seems to have lorded it over his now-dead ex when he was involved with her, reportedly brutalizing and terrorizing her and getting away with it in part because he threatened to further brutalize her if she testified against him. He may not have had much power in the wider world, but he certainly seems to have felt quite “empowered” in his dealings with women and girls, and the “justice” system didn’t provide any justice to his apparent victims, even before the kidnappings.

And never mind that Price continues to refer to the “Castro brothers” although the police are saying that Ariel Castro acted alone.

Despite not knowing the basic facts of the case, Price seems to like the idea of using cases like this one to push his antifeminist agenda. According to him, his attempts to use the case to “refute” the feminist idea that

male privilege [is] tied to abuse of women … really enraged them, because how dare I use one of “their” cases to point out that they are wrong. From their perspective, it should be a sacred feminist right to use these incidents against men as a political bludgeon so as to coerce more concessions, more power, etc. Some went so far as to accuse me of blaming women and feminists for the kidnappings themselves (rubbish), while a few others sent me some hate mail.

But you know, I’m going to keep it up, because they do not have the sole right to the narrative when convenient tragedies occur. …

Feminists will doubtless use examples of outrageous crimes in an effort to remove more men from their families, thereby creating both more victims and more criminals. They will use examples like the Castro brothers’ kidnapping whenever and wherever they can. We must stop them from doing so, and we must not be intimidated by their feigned moral outrage when we speak the truth about their agenda.

Dude. if you think the reactions people are having to the Cleveland abductions — or to the terrible things you and your commenters have said about them — are in any way “feigned,” then I can only suggest that you may have completely lost touch with your humanity.

Once again, the Spearhead’s commenters lived up to their past standards of moral monsterhood, continuing to put the blame for Ariel Castro’s crimes (and pretty much every other ill) on feminism and women in general.  Here are some selections. You’ll notice the one wishing death on feminists is officially “well-liked” by the commentariat there.

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The only vaguely encouraging thing in the entire discussion? That Dana’s call for urban genocide got a couple of downvotes. To the two Spearhead readers who don’t think wiping out an entire community of decent people because of the behavior of one man is a good idea, I would like to say “thanks.” And also suggest that maybe you should stop reading The Spearhead.

EDITED: Added paragraphs about Ariel Castro’s alleged brutality towards his ex, and clarification that only he has been charged, not his brothers.

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pecunium
11 years ago

Jill: Thanks for sharing. Really. It’s an overused phrase, but I mean it. If you’d not shared it would be easier for people to say, “well they got out when they tried”.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

By telling her story here, knowing full well what kind of people are reading, Jill has shown more courage than all the dudes in the MRM combined. They should feel ashamed of the crap they’ve written about this, but that would require a level of compassion that they don’t seem to have.

jillbrenneman
11 years ago

@pecunium,

Thank you. Hopefully others will see what you are saying and see that is also my point to contrast to any opinion that they got out when they tried. They got out the very moment they were first able. I don’t even know how the MRA’s think they have any place to judge these women or where they believe they any insight. MRA’s try to make themselves seem like the victims in the Cleveland kidnapping case. How pathetic is it when grown men (physically) try to insert themselves as victims in a situation like that. I’m not sure how they even dare to face other men with. I can’t imagine most men would be sympathetic to that kind false victimy nonsense. Especially from other men.

@Cassandra, The MRM can read all they want. They can show up with their contempt, their disbelief of my life’s events or anything else they want to show up with. I’ve seen it before. They have nothing that scares me. They are wannabe victims. And given their sympathy to Castro. It isn’t hard to put the pieces together as to why they are sympathetic to a predator scum that felt power is gained by kidnapping, torturing and raping teenage girls.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

It isn’t hard to put the pieces together as to why they are sympathetic to a predator scum that felt power is gained by kidnapping, torturing and raping teenage girls.

Nope. Was anyone who’s familiar with the MRM surprised when they started trying to make excuses for Castro? Because I wasn’t.

theseventhguest
theseventhguest
11 years ago

Thank you, Jill.

jillbrenneman
11 years ago

I wasn’t either. They aren’t even articulate about it. Cliche theories about a conspiracy against them. Or the sophomoric bullshit about how the women wanted it. If the women wanted it and it was consensual then why does Michelle need reconstructive surgery on her face and has lost hearing in her ear? Being beaten until her face needs reconstructive surgery. Yeah, that sure sounds like consent……….. ( Can not be said with enough sarcasm)

Having a baby in a kiddie pool while being treated by someone that has no training or experience in delivering a child. Yeah, that sounds consensual. . (again can not be sarcastic enough)

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