This just in: Men’s Rights Activists are some of the most gullible nincompoops in the history of ever.
The latest evidence of this? The regulars on the Men’s Rights subreddit were fooled by an obviously fake “screenshot” of an article from Jezebel that had been altered to make it look like a Jezebel staff writer thinks that paternity fraud is justifiable as a way to fight patriarchy.
No, seriously, the Reddit MRAs actually thought that Anna North of Jezebel had written that “the ability to lie about your children’s parentage is one way to break the rule of fathers.”
Here’s the “screenshot.” And here’s the original thread, which has been deleted from the Men’s Rights subreddit but which is still up, just not reachable from the subreddit.
The irony in many of the comments is off the charts. “It’s Jezebel, of course they think this way,” writes Riesea. “Wow,” says actorsspace. “If Jezebel had a sense of humor, I would suspect them of trolling.”
Blueoak9 — what happened to the original eight? — is stunned that even the evil feminists would sink so low:
There are, of course, a few teensy clues that North’s supposed quote about “break[ing] the rule of fathers” is a big fat fake (as are some of the others in that “screenshot”).
One is that nobody at Jezebel writes or thinks like that.
And second, there’s the tiny fact THAT THE REAL ARTICLE IS UP ON JEZEBEL AND IT DOESN’T SAY ANY OF THAT SHIT AND ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GO READ IT FOR FUCK’S SAKE IT’S RIGHT HERE.
In fact, Anna North, the author of the Jezebel article, makes an argument that’s the exact opposite of the one attributed to her in the “screenshot.” Challenging a writer in the London Times who had argued that “the ability to pass a child off on a man was a potent female weapon,” North countered that such a stance was not only morally questionable but also pretty antifeminist:
I’d rather “make male claims to omnipotence absurd” by, say, being economically and politically equal to men — not by making them raise babies that aren’t theirs.
Now, you might wonder why exactly the Men’s Rights crowd on Reddit was reading a screenshot of a Jezebel article and not an actual Jezebel article. Well, that’s because the Men’s Rights subreddit has banned all direct links to Jezebel and other Gawker media sites because the MRAs are still mad about that Violentacrez thing.
Yes, the subreddit that links in its sidebar to a site — A Voice for Men — that not only has offered thousand dollar bounties for the personal information of its feminist enemies but that also carries an open call to firebomb courthouses and police stations in its “activism section” is still pig-biting mad about Gawker’s “doxing” of the man who helped to ruin the lives of countless teenage girls by founding and protecting Reddit’s Jailbait subreddit and dozens of other noxious subreddits.
And so someone was able to use this fact to exploit MRA ignorance and paranoia about feminism and make the inhabitants of the Men’s Rights subreddit look like fools.
Again.
Or some MRA with zero ethics wanted to make feminists look bad and failed utterly. I think this is less likely, but with MRAs, anything is possible.
When you’re done reading the original discussion of the fake article on the Men’s Rights subreddit, you can read the discussion there about how they were trolled. Including the comments from this person who thinks that “even if it’s a troll… so what? It’s still presenting an opinion that many a feminist has held.” Straw feminism is REAL! And this person (with dozens of upvotes) who thinks they should just ban all links to all feminist blogs because, hey, what’s the point in knowing anything at all about something you talk about constantly?
EDIT: Thanks to the AgainstMensRights subreddit, I was able to find the link to the original banned post, and so I’ve put the link (and some comments from the discussion) into the post above.
“No, breadmold and/or catwoman, what is your PERSONAL relationship to one another?”
friends was a bad answer? lol.
Because only true feminists call other women breeding bitches and demand that people be punished for choosing to have children.
It must be tough commenting from two accounts at once, so I’ll upgrade this troll to 2/10.
Look, my solution is get a paternity test if it’s bugging you so much, don’t if it’s not, then stop whinging about it on the internet
Stereotypes. Are worse than. Rape.
Horrible human points award.
Re: true feminists.
yes, the patriarchy can have negative effects on men. I do not see how that has anything to do with legally mandated paternity tests, or w/e started this long, long boringness
@Catwoman
Because that’s exactly what we’re talking about?
To recap:
You/Breadmold: The primary problem with Farrell’s rape advocacy is the stereotypes that men are rapists.
Me: No, the primary problem is rape.
You/Breadmold: No, because those stereotypes [that men cause rape] are the only things that cause rape.
Me: So you’re saying that stereotypes that men cause rape, which you seem to think is a bigger deal than actual rape, cause all rape?
You: No. How dare you assume that the stereotypes we’re arguing about are the same stereotypes I used in that specific comment.
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It’s unethical, but it’s not a crime, at least not in the US. It’s also not a crime for a husband to impregnate his mistress.
I agree that people can be really awful to childfree women. However, they can also be awful to mothers, calling them breeders or cows, or saying they shut cross their legs to stop “spewing out babies”. The misogyny will happen either way.
You may be an equal hater, but most people give more shit to moms than dads. Mothers are blamed for all of their children’s misbehavior. When poor parents need government assistance, the mothers are treated like a burden on society while the fathers get a free pass. Mothers that are involved in their children’s lives are made fun of as “soccer moms” or “helicopter moms” while dads that are involved are heroes. All he has to do is play catch for an hour a week to go above and beyond the call of duty, while moms are judged as neglectful if they don’t follow a million rules laid out by attachment parenting gurus.
I’m glad I have the word “mommy” in my moniker, because I’m sick of misogynists of all genders using the term to mean “mothers that gush about their kids are annoying”. They usually don’t treat the word “daddy” like a bad thing, so until everyone becomes equally hateful to all parents, I say the word “breeder” is misogynist.
That was from PeMRA’s gif about the guy kicking an elderly woman. Remember, he says SRS is a hate site, but gifs about elder abuse are apparently hilarious. MRA logic right there.
“No, breadmold and/or catwoman, what is your PERSONAL relationship to one another?”
We’re very good friends.
TRUE feministm says stereotype is worst than rapes. TRUE fenimist is accuse ppl of not care about men. TRUE festiminst is take MRA talking points, paste on word ‘patriarchy’ and call everyone else MRA.
“Because only true feminists call other women breeding bitches and demand that people be punished for choosing to have children.”
What was my proposed punishment, enlighten me please.
and thereare breeding bitches, just because i am female doesn’t mean i like all other humans with vagina and boobs
Multiple socks on the thread! How original! (not really, MARL did it first)
^^LOL Catwoman, that sounds like something that the MRA’s would say!
I actually don’t know what is sadder, the likely scenario that they are the same person who is using an IP masker, or that there are actually two people in the world who discuss every day about how feminists aren’t real feminists unless they prioritize men’s issues.
That’s what people here love to say. Why all this drama and all this distasteful language when in fact you agree between you?
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breadmold basically just high fived himself.
@Ugh
You are an idiot 🙂
So none of you gets the issue of stereotypes and how they indeed are the big an main factor behind rape? the way we (as society) see masculinity, femininity, sex etc?
Yes, rape is a side effect of the stereotypes. if we didn’t have them nobody would ever come up with the idea that he has a right to do it to somebody who never agreed and see nothing wrong with it.
B and C, how far apart do you live and/or work?
“I actually don’t know what is sadder, the likely scenario that they are the same person who is using an IP masker, or that there are actually two people in the world who discuss every day about how feminists aren’t real feminists unless they prioritize men’s issues.”
I said we should INCLUDE men’s issues (which is what people in this thread are not doing at all). Where did we say that we should prioritize men’s issues? You’re creating a strawmen argument, which, again, doesn’t surprise me.
And please, continue to mention more about how we have the “same IP masker”. The fact that it isn’t true shows that the joke is not on me, but rather, on you.
Brz, shh, you’re not as funny as Biff and Boff over here.
Ah no, I’m sorry, patriarchy hurts men too (a little bit, just a little bit) but men can’t be oppressed because there’s a man on all the dollar bills. My bad.
You can continue insulting each other.
we live in the same city. Toronto
So you ARE arguing that rapists are only rapists because they are stereotyped as rapists?
Really? All you have for an argument is a dollar bill?
When you said the primary problem in advocating date rape is that it creates harmful stereotypes of men.
“Look, my solution is get a paternity test if it’s bugging you so much, don’t if it’s not, then stop whinging about it on the internet”
And what happens after?
C and B, is that your final answer?
If it’s not your kid you probably you should get a divorce? If it is you should apologize and move on?