This just in: Men’s Rights Activists are some of the most gullible nincompoops in the history of ever.
The latest evidence of this? The regulars on the Men’s Rights subreddit were fooled by an obviously fake “screenshot” of an article from Jezebel that had been altered to make it look like a Jezebel staff writer thinks that paternity fraud is justifiable as a way to fight patriarchy.
No, seriously, the Reddit MRAs actually thought that Anna North of Jezebel had written that “the ability to lie about your children’s parentage is one way to break the rule of fathers.”
Here’s the “screenshot.” And here’s the original thread, which has been deleted from the Men’s Rights subreddit but which is still up, just not reachable from the subreddit.
The irony in many of the comments is off the charts. “It’s Jezebel, of course they think this way,” writes Riesea. “Wow,” says actorsspace. “If Jezebel had a sense of humor, I would suspect them of trolling.”
Blueoak9 — what happened to the original eight? — is stunned that even the evil feminists would sink so low:
There are, of course, a few teensy clues that North’s supposed quote about “break[ing] the rule of fathers” is a big fat fake (as are some of the others in that “screenshot”).
One is that nobody at Jezebel writes or thinks like that.
And second, there’s the tiny fact THAT THE REAL ARTICLE IS UP ON JEZEBEL AND IT DOESN’T SAY ANY OF THAT SHIT AND ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GO READ IT FOR FUCK’S SAKE IT’S RIGHT HERE.
In fact, Anna North, the author of the Jezebel article, makes an argument that’s the exact opposite of the one attributed to her in the “screenshot.” Challenging a writer in the London Times who had argued that “the ability to pass a child off on a man was a potent female weapon,” North countered that such a stance was not only morally questionable but also pretty antifeminist:
I’d rather “make male claims to omnipotence absurd” by, say, being economically and politically equal to men — not by making them raise babies that aren’t theirs.
Now, you might wonder why exactly the Men’s Rights crowd on Reddit was reading a screenshot of a Jezebel article and not an actual Jezebel article. Well, that’s because the Men’s Rights subreddit has banned all direct links to Jezebel and other Gawker media sites because the MRAs are still mad about that Violentacrez thing.
Yes, the subreddit that links in its sidebar to a site — A Voice for Men — that not only has offered thousand dollar bounties for the personal information of its feminist enemies but that also carries an open call to firebomb courthouses and police stations in its “activism section” is still pig-biting mad about Gawker’s “doxing” of the man who helped to ruin the lives of countless teenage girls by founding and protecting Reddit’s Jailbait subreddit and dozens of other noxious subreddits.
And so someone was able to use this fact to exploit MRA ignorance and paranoia about feminism and make the inhabitants of the Men’s Rights subreddit look like fools.
Again.
Or some MRA with zero ethics wanted to make feminists look bad and failed utterly. I think this is less likely, but with MRAs, anything is possible.
When you’re done reading the original discussion of the fake article on the Men’s Rights subreddit, you can read the discussion there about how they were trolled. Including the comments from this person who thinks that “even if it’s a troll… so what? It’s still presenting an opinion that many a feminist has held.” Straw feminism is REAL! And this person (with dozens of upvotes) who thinks they should just ban all links to all feminist blogs because, hey, what’s the point in knowing anything at all about something you talk about constantly?
EDIT: Thanks to the AgainstMensRights subreddit, I was able to find the link to the original banned post, and so I’ve put the link (and some comments from the discussion) into the post above.
Meh I don’t mind being the “misogynist” for a day
There are many points, here are some:
one of the worst things after the rape is the fact that you know people won’t believe you because you are a slut (stereotypes)p
there is also period of self blaming (again because of stereotypes)
stereotypes on male female sexuality is also what lets some men believe they are “entitled” to sex and commit rape
and so on.
without stereotypes there would be no rape.
with less stereotypes there would be at least less suffering and more support after.
stereotypes are the root under all the problems. so they are the worst harm
“Catwoman and/or breadmold, can you explain your relationship to one another?”
friends.
This stinks of Assfax.
@Pecunium
I don’t think there’s an American equivalent of “accouchement sous X”(the possibility for the mother to give birth anonymously and abandon the child directly), but I know there’s ways for a mother to abandon a baby easily in the U.S.
I don’t advocate for men being able to walk away freely from their children, I just say that things would be more clear, more coherent if we indicate clearly the situations where a man can renounce to parental rights and where he CAN’T do it and it will requires to abandon this fiction of biological fatherhood implying automatic legal fatherhood (which the justice considers to be a thing only if the mother want it of course).
A little bit of coherence, a little bit of logic.
Men walking away from their children for whom they have LEGAL responsibility is another thing. Imposing shared custody as the norm, rather than according almost always sole custody to the mothers, would have a great effect in reducing the number of “runaway dads” – but of course, like always, feminists will oppose it under a pretext (in this case, domestic violence) – because men AREN’T EVIL MONSTERS, like most women, most of them want the good of their children and if we allow them to share a more important role than seeing them every month, they’ll take their responsibility.
Feminists are always here to transform every important question concerning Family Law into an ideological struggle where what matters isn’t what is just or what is good but what favor women and what permit to demonize men.
I suspect you of saying this only to attack another “troll” but I thank you for the compliment anyway.
Friends with the same IP, I’ll bet.
@Catwoman
So your argument boils down to, rapists are only rapists because they’re stereotyped as rapists?
no we are not roommates. we do live in the same city though
just like i am not all the other people you accused me to be so far, lol!
Moldy: If I’m so fucking stupid, explain to me how you conclude that stereotypes are worse than rape. Use little words if you need to.
Also, that the stereotypes of men as rapists are more of an issue than the stereotypes of rape survivors?
“So your argument boils down to, rapists are only rapists because they’re stereotyped as rapists?”
no.
Of course you live in the same city. Uh-huh.
@hellkell
If so, Ima send a clown to the address. The idea that someone would go through the trouble of creating two different personas and have whole conversations with each other is so depressing, I may cry.
yes, hellkell.some of us have real friends that we met in real life and then talked online. crazy world
Shadow: ain’t it sad to contemplate? Hilariously sad.
Except you said exactly that, right here:
Yeah, on this blog to push your shitty little points. Gotcha.
without stereotypes there would be no rape.
with less stereotypes there would be at least less suffering and more support after.
stereotypes are the root under all the problems. so they are the worst harm
Got any citations to go with that grossly inflated gall bladder?
See, in Catwoman’s world, there was no sexual violence, ever in the entirety of human history.
Then some bad apple, a b-word no doubt, started unfairly calling all men potential rapists, and it just went downhill from there.
“Catwoman and/or breadmold, can you explain your relationship to one another?”
We’re feminists, true feminists who believe that patriarchy is harmful in this society not only to women, but also to men, due to the fact that this systemic form of dogma creates gender stereotypes that primarily cause not only women to experience oppression but also men.
If you look at the comments starting page 2, you’ll realize that a lot of the comments that other posters said and attacked me with were not just very unpleasant; they were ignorant and also provides a very narrow minded view of society. I said at one point that married men have the right to suspect that their newborn baby from their wife might not be his child via getting a paternity test. I’m not saying that it’s a common occurrence, but all I’m saying is that it happens, and the fact that it happens justifies his right to have accessibility for paternity testing.
You’ll notice that one comment sparked a massive wave of insults at me, to the point where it really got out of hand. And later on, Catwoman and me helped to illustrate our points, only for us to be attacked more and more. The problem I’ve been noticing is that these people adamantly thinks that there’s no way in hell men can suffer in this society, which I have major issues with because patriarchy oppresses men as well.
^^Directed at Manboobz
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“So your argument boils down to, rapists are only rapists because they’re stereotyped as rapists?”
no.
Except you said exactly that, right here:
stereotypes on male female sexuality is also what lets some men believe they are “entitled” to sex and commit rape
and so on.
without stereotypes there would be no rape.
”
LOL, this is what you got out of it? oy vey, no wonder i think most who comment here are dumb as shit.
since when stereotypes of male/female sexuality are all about “men being stereotyped as rapists”? is that the only stereotype you know?
BREADMOLD AND CATWOMAN: THE ONE TRUE FEMINIST.
No, breadmold and/or catwoman, what is your PERSONAL relationship to one another?
You want to think we are the same person you are welcome to. you already believe in your tiny brain that everyone who disagrees with you is one and the same person. (although something tells me i disagree with them about most things as well)
if someone wants to check ip to chill out i am sure you can.
Hellkell:”Friends with the same IP, I’ll bet.”
Yes because there’s no way in hell the feminist community would ever disagree with your own problematic, one-sided views. Funny, though, I’m very flattered that you would spend time and effort trying to guess who I am, even though you don’t even know me.