This just in: Men’s Rights Activists are some of the most gullible nincompoops in the history of ever.
The latest evidence of this? The regulars on the Men’s Rights subreddit were fooled by an obviously fake “screenshot” of an article from Jezebel that had been altered to make it look like a Jezebel staff writer thinks that paternity fraud is justifiable as a way to fight patriarchy.
No, seriously, the Reddit MRAs actually thought that Anna North of Jezebel had written that “the ability to lie about your children’s parentage is one way to break the rule of fathers.”
Here’s the “screenshot.” And here’s the original thread, which has been deleted from the Men’s Rights subreddit but which is still up, just not reachable from the subreddit.
The irony in many of the comments is off the charts. “It’s Jezebel, of course they think this way,” writes Riesea. “Wow,” says actorsspace. “If Jezebel had a sense of humor, I would suspect them of trolling.”
Blueoak9 — what happened to the original eight? — is stunned that even the evil feminists would sink so low:
There are, of course, a few teensy clues that North’s supposed quote about “break[ing] the rule of fathers” is a big fat fake (as are some of the others in that “screenshot”).
One is that nobody at Jezebel writes or thinks like that.
And second, there’s the tiny fact THAT THE REAL ARTICLE IS UP ON JEZEBEL AND IT DOESN’T SAY ANY OF THAT SHIT AND ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GO READ IT FOR FUCK’S SAKE IT’S RIGHT HERE.
In fact, Anna North, the author of the Jezebel article, makes an argument that’s the exact opposite of the one attributed to her in the “screenshot.” Challenging a writer in the London Times who had argued that “the ability to pass a child off on a man was a potent female weapon,” North countered that such a stance was not only morally questionable but also pretty antifeminist:
I’d rather “make male claims to omnipotence absurd” by, say, being economically and politically equal to men — not by making them raise babies that aren’t theirs.
Now, you might wonder why exactly the Men’s Rights crowd on Reddit was reading a screenshot of a Jezebel article and not an actual Jezebel article. Well, that’s because the Men’s Rights subreddit has banned all direct links to Jezebel and other Gawker media sites because the MRAs are still mad about that Violentacrez thing.
Yes, the subreddit that links in its sidebar to a site — A Voice for Men — that not only has offered thousand dollar bounties for the personal information of its feminist enemies but that also carries an open call to firebomb courthouses and police stations in its “activism section” is still pig-biting mad about Gawker’s “doxing” of the man who helped to ruin the lives of countless teenage girls by founding and protecting Reddit’s Jailbait subreddit and dozens of other noxious subreddits.
And so someone was able to use this fact to exploit MRA ignorance and paranoia about feminism and make the inhabitants of the Men’s Rights subreddit look like fools.
Again.
Or some MRA with zero ethics wanted to make feminists look bad and failed utterly. I think this is less likely, but with MRAs, anything is possible.
When you’re done reading the original discussion of the fake article on the Men’s Rights subreddit, you can read the discussion there about how they were trolled. Including the comments from this person who thinks that “even if it’s a troll… so what? It’s still presenting an opinion that many a feminist has held.” Straw feminism is REAL! And this person (with dozens of upvotes) who thinks they should just ban all links to all feminist blogs because, hey, what’s the point in knowing anything at all about something you talk about constantly?
EDIT: Thanks to the AgainstMensRights subreddit, I was able to find the link to the original banned post, and so I’ve put the link (and some comments from the discussion) into the post above.
Really, if you think the PRIMARY problem with rape of women is that it creates negative stereotypes about men, you’re seriously messed up.
LOLLLLLLL. Bless you hellkell
Okay, at least that makes sense…
I just guess I don’t see how raising a kid as an obligation would help them turn out to be a good person. If my mom was like “I’m only raising you to prevent you from being a thugcriminalwhatever” that would… not go over well.
hellkell by posting that comment you’re playing right into moldy’s fantasy world. You’re driving all the fantasy people away from feminism, into the MRM. Look at them go in his brain.
“Breadmold: stop pretending you’re anything but an MRA. Why bring up all their points if you’re not?”
Interesting… so I’m an MRA because I think men are human beings who have the right to be angry when they realize that they have been a victim of paternity fraud.
Is that one of your tactics of increasing the MRA crowd? Get lost you MRA minion – feminism needs to be taken seriously and all you’re doing is making them look like braindead morons.
QFT. I’d much rather people think I’m an asshole than have people ACTUALLY ATTACK ME
Moldy… WTF? I mean that’s a new one, saying an MBZ regular is an MRA plant.
Who am I? Am I Secretly Eivind Berge? Perhaps I’m Angry Harry?
Ooh…I know, I’m John the Otter! I get people who are weak in their feminism, who have just discovered so upset they leave it, renouncing the inherent violence (and dropping their clubs and box-cutters) to join me, and the other pacifists on AVfM!.
Drat, I’d have gotten away with it too, if it wasn’t for you and those meddlsome kids!
“Rape is bad for women. But I’m primarily concerned with the effects that rape has on people, i.e. men.”
Nothing MRA about that sentiment.
@Cassandra
I don’t get this. I mean, know there are people who have random, anonymous hookups with people they won’t be able to find again, but I feel like plenty of women, having eliminated their spouse or partner as the child’s sperm donor, would be able to narrow down the likely candidates to one or two.
@Hrovitnir
I’m really surprised to see this here. I thought not using (mostly) women’s body parts as insults was feminism 101.
The issue is that you don’t extend the same consideration to women.
Moldy: Interesting… so I’m an MRA because I think men are human beings who have the right to be angry when they realize that they have been a victim of paternity fraud.
No, that makes you a douchenozzle, specifically a misogynistic douchenozzle.
The MRA thing is all the attendant crap you pulled out (like the 30 percent of all kids are cuckoo’s eggs, and the titanic, and the stupid, “women have all the power in BC, and the draft and…).
“Um yeah, but it also labels women as property, which is kind of the bigger injustice, don’t you think?”
Yes and the fact that men are sex beasts.
You somehow fail to grasp the basic feminist knowledge that patriarchy is oppressive to both men and women, and that both are connected. But hey, if you don’t have the mental capacity to understand feminism, then you’re all welcome to join in with the MRA’s 🙂
“Yes and”
Really eager to get back to what about teh menz, aren’t you moldy?
LOL. You funny.
Pecunium: It’s not the first time some troll has gotten so flustered by my potty mouth and utter refusal to entertain their horseshit that they call me an MRA. I think this is the third or fourth time.
moldy, if you’re going to include the part where we’re all secretly MRAs in literally every one of your maniacally self-satisfied ‘zingers’, it’d be faster for you to just make it into your sig.
Ooh… Mr, Women Are So Prone to Lying About Paternity That All Men Need to Be Able to Get Cheap Paternity Tests, Because They Can’t Keep Their Legs Closed is gonna school us on feminism; because the only people who would disagree with how men are disadvantaged in the modern world are members of the MRM.
Whut?
Um, obv patriarchy harms men too, but it is primarily designed to harm women. For example, saying that men are sex beasts is harmful, but not anywhere nearly as harmful as raping women.
Being primarily concerned with the effects on men is like saying that the primary problem of literacy tests in the South was that they prevented some white people from voting.
“No, that makes you a douchenozzle, specifically a misogynistic douchenozzle.”
Oh lovely use of language. Is that how feminists talk?
“The MRA thing is all the attendant crap you pulled out (like the 30 percent of all kids are cuckoo’s eggs, and the titanic, and the stupid, “women have all the power in BC, and the draft and…).”
WHAT? 30% of kids are not cuckoo’s eggs. And women did not have power in the draft to force men to die. What the hell is wrong with you? Why do you hate women and children so much?
@breadmold
Has it occurred to you that, if you weren’t in a hate movement, you wouldn’t have to lie about not being in a hate movement?
So much for pretending to discuss feminist philosophy “every day.”
at this point, moldy is grabbing his own wrist, punching himself in the face, and demanding to know why we are hitting ourselves.
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Okay, so is your basic option there is no solution?
I mean, it seems like you are freaking out around unwanted kids: you can’t give them for adoption, you can’t let them be raised by their mom and pay child support, so you have to raise them yourself but if they turn out to be non-genetically related you’re going to sue the pants off the mom, genetic father, and then try to “claim the kid for yourself”
or was that moldy on the last one?
Anyway, my point is it seems like you’ve worked yourself into a corner where there is no winning option.
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no seriously
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Solution to what?
i don’t understand the claim the kid for yourself part.
You asked why someone would not just leave right away if he never wanted kids. And I told why there are such people.
my personal solution against unwanted children is abortion. plain and simple. but i am not everybody. i would like more people to practice it but i can’t force them. and because of this i have nothing against men that actually stay if their partner decided to keep their kid. but i can also see that they deserve all the compensation if they were actually frauded into making such a life changing decision they would never go for otherwise.
And I am not saying it is some huge world issue. mra seem to be terrified of having sex because they believe it happens all the time. but no matter how minor the issue is the ones affected by it should not be overlooked….
What is your solution? just tell the guy to suck it up because he was lied to on the day he decided to stop being child free because he thought he was the one who had the accident during sex and act like nothing bad happened? (and yes i am only talking about cases where he was indeed lied to on purpose).
Breadmold is one big tone argument.
This is a really impressive meltdown; does anybody else sm(p)ell something?
@inurashii
I was smelling pell earlier