This just in: Men’s Rights Activists are some of the most gullible nincompoops in the history of ever.
The latest evidence of this? The regulars on the Men’s Rights subreddit were fooled by an obviously fake “screenshot” of an article from Jezebel that had been altered to make it look like a Jezebel staff writer thinks that paternity fraud is justifiable as a way to fight patriarchy.
No, seriously, the Reddit MRAs actually thought that Anna North of Jezebel had written that “the ability to lie about your children’s parentage is one way to break the rule of fathers.”
Here’s the “screenshot.” And here’s the original thread, which has been deleted from the Men’s Rights subreddit but which is still up, just not reachable from the subreddit.
The irony in many of the comments is off the charts. “It’s Jezebel, of course they think this way,” writes Riesea. “Wow,” says actorsspace. “If Jezebel had a sense of humor, I would suspect them of trolling.”
Blueoak9 — what happened to the original eight? — is stunned that even the evil feminists would sink so low:
There are, of course, a few teensy clues that North’s supposed quote about “break[ing] the rule of fathers” is a big fat fake (as are some of the others in that “screenshot”).
One is that nobody at Jezebel writes or thinks like that.
And second, there’s the tiny fact THAT THE REAL ARTICLE IS UP ON JEZEBEL AND IT DOESN’T SAY ANY OF THAT SHIT AND ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GO READ IT FOR FUCK’S SAKE IT’S RIGHT HERE.
In fact, Anna North, the author of the Jezebel article, makes an argument that’s the exact opposite of the one attributed to her in the “screenshot.” Challenging a writer in the London Times who had argued that “the ability to pass a child off on a man was a potent female weapon,” North countered that such a stance was not only morally questionable but also pretty antifeminist:
I’d rather “make male claims to omnipotence absurd” by, say, being economically and politically equal to men — not by making them raise babies that aren’t theirs.
Now, you might wonder why exactly the Men’s Rights crowd on Reddit was reading a screenshot of a Jezebel article and not an actual Jezebel article. Well, that’s because the Men’s Rights subreddit has banned all direct links to Jezebel and other Gawker media sites because the MRAs are still mad about that Violentacrez thing.
Yes, the subreddit that links in its sidebar to a site — A Voice for Men — that not only has offered thousand dollar bounties for the personal information of its feminist enemies but that also carries an open call to firebomb courthouses and police stations in its “activism section” is still pig-biting mad about Gawker’s “doxing” of the man who helped to ruin the lives of countless teenage girls by founding and protecting Reddit’s Jailbait subreddit and dozens of other noxious subreddits.
And so someone was able to use this fact to exploit MRA ignorance and paranoia about feminism and make the inhabitants of the Men’s Rights subreddit look like fools.
Again.
Or some MRA with zero ethics wanted to make feminists look bad and failed utterly. I think this is less likely, but with MRAs, anything is possible.
When you’re done reading the original discussion of the fake article on the Men’s Rights subreddit, you can read the discussion there about how they were trolled. Including the comments from this person who thinks that “even if it’s a troll… so what? It’s still presenting an opinion that many a feminist has held.” Straw feminism is REAL! And this person (with dozens of upvotes) who thinks they should just ban all links to all feminist blogs because, hey, what’s the point in knowing anything at all about something you talk about constantly?
EDIT: Thanks to the AgainstMensRights subreddit, I was able to find the link to the original banned post, and so I’ve put the link (and some comments from the discussion) into the post above.
…. like??
We get angry when people are misogynists. We mock misogyny. Is there some kind of problem here?
@Catwoman
Clearly, your use of literally the oldest slur in the English language shows how much of a progressive thinker you are.
Nnnf. Good point. Very not cool. Sorry about that.
Howard: No worries. That just sat funny.
@MarciLannister
Yes, because it is TOTALLY HARD to imagine you as being an utter misogynist.
Hint: you do actually hate women. Stop doing it. It’s awful.
“…. like??
We get angry when people are misogynists. We mock misogyny. Is there some kind of problem here?”
Beautiful, only you also get angry when people are not.
A guy not being happy about having spend money on someone who is not his kid is not a misogynist.
And as for breeders I hate them in all genders. Any bitch or dick who wants to tell me how i have to love or want kids should really suffer with his/her choice (and the great thing is i know they will)
That ship, she has sailed, FauxFrench.
“Somehow I think Catwoman already hates feminism.”
Actually, Catwoman is my very good friend here and we discuss about feminism issues every single day. Surprised? Probably not, because in that tiny fantasy world of yours, anyone who disagree with you is automatically an MRA or a troll, amirite? 🙂
You, on the other hand, consistently “prove” your points across by spewing ad hominim attacks, poorly thought out one-sided arguments, and toddler-like insults, as if you think everything should be a pissing contest to you.
Hmmm… maybe that’s your goal all along – to act as vile, biased, and uneducated as possible in order to shame the entire feminist community so that the public would see them all as bigoted, pottymouthed barbarians like you. In that case, you are the true misogynist, and I sincere hope you farewell, you misogynist pig!
Long live the feminism and down with braindead, misogynistic idiots like HellKell!
Dude. That’s a black mark against her, not evidence of anything good.
The law can compel because the man doesn’t have the conclusive evidence of pregnancy. So if a woman says,”he is the father” and he says, “no, I’m not”, the only way to know is to have the test.
I don’t know about France but in Calif. a husband can renounce presumptive paternity. But bonds of blood being immaterial… cute. That’s just a backdoor to a more extreme form of paper abortion. If you do that then the man has assert paternity, the mother is still on the hook for maternity.
Fucking hell, just stop being an asshole. You strike me as some new cf person who hasn’t gotten past the frothy stage.
Or not, and next the cavalcade of cf sexism will begin in earnest.
breadmold: it’s such a huge insult to you all to even mention once about how men have it harder in certain things
The feminist mask is slipping.
“Dude, the point is, your biological barriers are bullshit. Men can get vasectomies a fuck of a lot easier than I could get a tubal.”
Really? Not what I’ve noticed in Toronto.
Nope. What I see in Toronto (in some clinics) is that men can get vasectomies as easily as women get a tubal: i.e. they have to show they don’t want kids.
But even if we accept that it is harder, in Toronto, there is Montreal, or Ottawa, or London, or…
Local, not systemic.
Try again.
Yes, “advantaged” in the patriarchal definition.
As opposed to the matriarchy we live in now?
What? So you think the best solution to solve the double standard is for women to use M.O.’s to kill themselves? You fucking misogynist!
Who is twisting things, and putting words in people’s mouths now?
“Dude. That’s a black mark against her, not evidence of anything good.”
Its ok, we don’t like you guys in the comments either.
Too much lack on comprehension skills here.
Luckily I already told my friend not to worry, since its just a hive of 10 compared to the rest
This is projection, plain and simple. You have avoided answering just about every single question asked of you.
I’m not caught up, and probably won’t be for hours (my turn at the dentist), but two notes so far:
“And by the way the incidence of cuckolding as found by genetic testing is about 30%.
3 in 10.
If you had a 30% chance of most of your time, effort and love being poured into a life that was a LIE, to the advantage of the liar that inflicted it on you – you’d be clamouring for mandatory DNA testing too.”
And Joe continues to fail statistics as that’s 30% of cases where paternity was in question. So a proper interpretation of that would be: in cases where paternity is in question, 70% of the time the assumed paternity is the actual paternity.
No fucking clue what the rate is in all cases, musts cAses where people were already questioning it.
Cassandra — lobotomies weren’t really a thing until the 30s and, in some places, continued into the 70s (which, I think, means within your lifetime). Just a minor history note, you’re totally right about the implications of jailing people for “paternity fraud”.
And now I need to get ready to have my mouth poked at.
How much you wanna bet Catwoman and Breadmold are one and the same? Wouldn’t be the first time someone socked themselves a backup.
Why don’t you two assholes take it to email if you’re such good buds?
Okay, so I hate to quote myself, Catwoman, but I have already made my thoughts on this cleaer:
If he wanted kids, how did he waste his money? If he didn’t want kids, what was going on where he decided to stay around (I mean, was he guilted into it… what?)
The only thing i can think is if he didn’t want gets, left and had to pay child support, and then a paternity test proved that he wasn’t the dad
What the fuck am I reading? These trolls are a 1/10. I expect better on my coffee break!
“Fucking hell, just stop being an asshole. You strike me as some new cf person who hasn’t gotten past the frothy stage. ”
whats new cf? i have been cf since i was born. it started bugging others for some reason only now though.
i will be an asshole to the ones who are assholes to me, that’s how it goes.
@Catwoman
Of course we let people disagree. It’s just that we also like to call things as we see them.
Also, I find it rather telling that your slight aversion to that term is rooted in the fact that it vaguely refers to dogs, rather than the fact that it’s a misogynistic slur used against women. It’s used to deride women for being assertive and/or rude and men for being whiny and feminine.
If you believe in treating your own kind with respect, it makes no sense to be okay with using misogynistic words.
<blockquotmmm… maybe that’s your goal all along – to act as vile, biased, and uneducated as possible in order to shame the entire feminist community so that the public would see them all as bigoted, pottymouthed barbarians like you. In that case, you are the true misogynist, and I sincere hope you farewell, you misogynist pig!
Long live the feminism and down with braindead, misogynistic idiots like HellKell!
Your fixation on me is creepy. Did I say something to upset you?
catwoman: And as for breeders I hate them in all genders. Any bitch or dick who wants to tell me how i have to love or want kids
Way to project. I’m sorry you have your knickers in a twist because women who don’t have kids get told they should want them, or are, “incomplete” without them.
But you hate on anyone who has kids. You hate on anyone who says having kids is ok. You hate on people who don’t say not having kids is ok; in the right sort of hateful way you say it.
And you really hate being called on your shit. I think the real reason you don’t use your favorite word isn’t that it would offend us (since that’s why you’re here) but that it would end up in moderation, and the effect would be diminished.
Clever you ain’t. Smart you ain’t but you do have some native guile and smidgeon of cunning.
Yes, I’m on a blog that mocks misogyny to bring shame to my feminist overlords. However did YOU manage to see through my clever ruse?
HellKell:”StarStorm: Breadmold probably wonders out loud why there’s no white History Month.”
And here you are again proving to us what a braindead anencephalic idiot you are. Please continue to shame the entire feminist community; all the misogynists around the world will love you for it 🙂 Where was race ever mentioned in any of my posts?
And you’re totally correct that there are situations where black people can force white people to be a father of a child that isn’t his (but not the other way around), you are correct that black people can have abortions but white people can’t, you are correct that white people were forced into the military but black people aren’t, and you are correct that white people commit suicide at a much higher rate than black people. I feel sorry for the people that raised you who didn’t love you enough to teach you how to think and communicate using logic and properly thought out language. Perhaps you’re just another bitter moron because you found out the nasty truth one day that your father wasn’t your real father and now you’re letting it out on us?