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The Myth of Warren Farrell: Farrell on Rape, Part One

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No book has had more influence over the Men’s Rights movement than Warren Farrell’s The Myth of Male Power. Published in 1993, in the heyday of the early 90s antifeminist backlash, it set the agenda for the Men’s Rights movement as it’s developed over the last two decades.  He’s the one who came up with the notions of “male disposability” and the “death professions.” He’s the one who got MRAs fixated on the issue of draft registration.

Indeed, so pervasive has his influence been that if you see an MRA making a dumb argument anywhere on the Internet, the chances are probably more than 50-50 that it originated in the pages of Farrell’s book. Despite its age, and its eccentricity, The Myth of Male Power is still the first book recommended to MRA newbies in the sidebar of the Men’s Rights subreddit, the most active MRA hangout online.

It’s a book that deserves a lot more attention than I have been giving it on this blog. Sure, I’ve written about Farrell’s strange and creepy notions about incest, as set forth in a notorious interview in Penthouse in the 1970s, and about his recent attempts to explain away these views. But I haven’t devoted any blog posts to his most influential work. I intend to rectify that now, with a series of posts on some of Farrell’s chief arguments and assertions.

I will start with several posts on Farrell’s views on rape, which has been the subject of much controversy of late. This part will deal with his general statements on rape and sexuality; another will explore in more detail his views on date rape (did he really describe it as “exciting?”); and still another will look at the vast assortment of things he has inappropriately compared to rape.

Pinning down what Farrell “really believes” about rape – and indeed, about almost anything– is difficult. Farrell’s arguments, such as they are, are slippery and evasive. Instead of setting forth a clear argument about rape, Farrell instead provides us with a series of jumbled metaphors and strange comparisons. Instead of trying to summarize them – many of them defy summary — let’s just go through them one by one.

Farrell supporters will likely suggest that these quotes are taken “out of context,” to which I can only say: Check his book to see for yourself. None of his troubling quotes are any less troubling, or for that matter any clearer, in context, and many don’t have much of a context. Farrell writes in a rambling, free-associational style, and many of the “arguments” he makes in the following quotes seem to come from out of the blue, and are never developed further (though some, as you will see, are referenced again in later quotes).

Page numbers given are from the 1993 hardcover edition of The Myth of Male Power.

All that out of the way, let’s jump right in:

Near the start of his book , Farrell sets the tone for what will come by suggesting that men suffer as much sexual trauma from women’s mixed signals as women do from rape:

Feminism has taught women to sue men for sexual harassment or date rape when men initiate with the wrong person or with the wrong timing; no one has taught men to sue women for sexual trauma for saying “yes,” then “no,” then “yes.” … Men [are] still expected to initiate, but now, if they [do] it badly, they could go to jail. (p. 16)

Here, he elaborates on the notion that rape is a matter of bad timing, of “tak[ing] risks too quickly.”

In the past, both sexes were anxious about sex and pregnancy. Now the pill minimizes her anxiety and condoms increase his. Now the pimple faced boy must still risk rejection while also overcoming his own fear of herpes and AIDS and reassuring her there is nothing to fear. He must still do the sexual risk-taking, but now he can be put in jail if he takes risks too quickly or be called a wimp if he doesn’t take them quickly enough . (p. 168)

Here, Farrell falls back on the old “rape is misunderstanding” canard, and somehow manages to compare sexual activity –- from kissing up to and including rape — to eating a bag of potato chips.

It is also possible for a woman to go back to a man’s room, tell him she doesn’t want to have intercourse, mean it, start kissing, have intercourse, and then wish she hadn’t in the morning. How? Kissing is like eating potato chips. Before we know it, we’ve gone further than we said we would. (p. 311)

Here, he seems to seriously suggest that juries could do a better job judging rape cases if they were sexually aroused.

The problem with every judgment of sexual behavior is that it is made by people who aren’t being stimulated as they are making the judgment. A jury that sees a woman in a sterile courtroom, asks her what she wanted, and then assumes that anything else she did was the responsibility of the man is insulting not only the woman but the power of sex. (p. 312)

And then he returns to the potato chip metaphor.

A man being sued after a woman has more sex than intended is like Lay’s being sued after someone has more potato chips than intended. In brief, date rape can be a crime, a misunderstanding, or buyer’s remorse. (p. 312)

Farrell repeatedly tries to absolve men of sexual wrongdoing by suggesting that they are literally intoxicated by female beauty.

Sexually, of course, the sexes aren’t equal. It is exactly a woman’s greater sexual power that often makes a man so fearful of being rejected by her that he buys himself drinks to reduce his fear. In essence, her sexual power often leads to him drinking; his sexual power rarely leads to her drinking. If anything is evidence of her power over him, it is his being expected to spend his money to buy her drinks without her reciprocating.  …

It is  men – far more than women – whose mental capacities are diminished when they are “under the influence” of a beautiful woman. (p. 320)

But Farrell thinks it’s “sexist” – against men – to put men in jail for “selling sex” to intoxicated women:

As long as society tells men to be the salespersons of sex, it is sexist for society to put only men in jail if they sell well. We don’t put other salespersons in jail for buying clients drinks and successfully transforming a “no” into a “maybe” into a “yes.” If the client makes a choice to drink too much and the “yes” turns out to be a bad decision, it is the client who gets fired, not the salesperson.  (p. 321)

We’ve only just begun to scratch the surface of Warren Farrell’s equally daft and disturbing views on sex and rape. Stay tuned.

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opheliamonarch
11 years ago

@Derick,

You name ANY current show or Movie (Of course, sans hand-picking conveniently) that comes to your mind, and I’ll name the manner in which the Females are exalted in the same.

The Walking Dead.

Fucking arsebucket.

Aaliyah
11 years ago

“I respect Men. I despise Manginas. Manginas are scum, and should never be respected…..by anyone!”

You would be a great ally to gender non-conforming men! And by that I mean that they would fucking hate you.

Shiraz
Shiraz
11 years ago

Troll, you’re sounding sillier by the moment.

Kittehserf
11 years ago

Pelly boy, the ellipsis has three dots. It’s a discrete punctuation mark, not “as many dots as you want to insert to indicate a dramatic pause”.

You’d better hurry and get your meltdown finished, your Mum will be in to tell you to get off the computer and go to bed soon. You know sitting up this late makes you overtired.

greendaywantsavatars
greendaywantsavatars
11 years ago

Derek: “I respect Men. I despise Manginas. Manginas are scum, and should never be respected…..by anyone!”

Um, why are you calling them manginas? To infer that someone with a vagina is lesser? That it is insulting to be associated with vaginas? To imply that trans* men and trans* women don’t exist?

Also, I think it’s not letting me post w/ block quotes. for some reason. My post only when through when I took out the quotes. So my troll rebutting may be slightly harder to read.

Fade
11 years ago

doh, accidently changed my name

Kittehserf
11 years ago

WordPress is having one of those days, it did the same thing to MaudeLL earlier.

Maybe it’s the blockquote monster’s day off.

serrana
serrana
11 years ago

I’m bored with Derick.

Can y’all commiserate with me about my air conditioner? We spent ten fucking thousand dollars* on this thing two and a half years ago and this is the second time this spring that I’m going to call for service because a safety switch has flipped off the power to the compressor and the HVAC company doesn’t know why. They won’t charge me, but still, I’m hot. Last August I had to call them because the humidity in the house was 82%. My old one just ran and ran for 24 years until it didn’t.

*that was for a new heater and blower and there were rebates and tax credits, but still, we spend $$$$$ and it’s not working

archaeoholmes
11 years ago

Derick’s all like, “Okay, just lay any film on me, any film at all, and I’ll blast it with my gender analysis”. Then he gets a huge list of television shows and films and doesn’t come back to any of them.

Viscaria
Viscaria
11 years ago

I’ll give this to Pell: I was having a really hard time motivating myself to change the load of laundry, but his shtick is so boring and predictable now that it was less interesting to me than hanging up my clothes. He may be nothing but a 12 year old boy trying to upset women on the Internet, but he’s occasionally a useful 12 year old boy trying to upset women on the Internet.

augochlorella
augochlorella
11 years ago

Derick? Derick are you still there?

GaoGaiGar.

You need to tell me the female equivalent to GaoGaiGar right now. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.

Fade
11 years ago

Holy F-? 10000 dollars?

*commiserates w/ you on your air conditioner*

I do not have any advice or anything, though, b/c I am not a homeowner/apartment renter… anything and have never had to deal w/ an air conditioner.

Kim
Kim
11 years ago

Farrel is right that sometimes a person has sex with someone and in the morning regrets it. I know I’ve done it more than once. What he gets completely wrong is that a woman can’t tell the difference between doing that and being raped. Which is ironic since it’s him and his ilk who can’t (or won’t) tell the difference.

Viscaria
Viscaria
11 years ago

Can y’all commiserate with me about my air conditioner? We spent ten fucking thousand dollars* on this thing two and a half years ago and this is the second time this spring that I’m going to call for service because a safety switch has flipped off the power to the compressor and the HVAC company doesn’t know why.

SUCKY. Bleh!

Derick
Derick
11 years ago

@Kittehserf

Did you see the word “Current” in my comment? Also did you notice the part about “Hand-picking”?

You hand-picked everything that is more than a decade old, except for Camelot. So I’ll take Camelot as the only example.

Eva Green is shown as Morgan le Fay who is the immensely powerful main antagonist

Tamsin Egerton as Guinevere – an ambitious and strong willed woman who is shown as source of great support and strength to Arthur, the king

Claire Forlani as Igraine – Arthur’s biological mother. Igraine quickly becomes an ally and figure of strength for Arthur and the entire court of Camelot.

Kittehserf
11 years ago

TomBcat – ouch! Commiserating indeed. 🙁

archaoholmes – don’t you love the way it’s “name any film at all” and in the same sentence “no cherry-picking”! So “any” doesn’t mean “any” in DUHrik speak.

Though I’m pretty sure this is Pell. The sharp descent to dummy-spitting is characteristic of his more recent appearances. He hasn’t the stamina he had in the old days. He’d never get a whole biography in the forum with these efforts.

serrana
serrana
11 years ago

>blockquote>Holy F-? 10000 dollars?

Yep. Shit’s expensive when you don’t want it done half-assed. Unfortunately for me…

Seriously, you know those home improvement magazines? No one would buy them anymore if they were required to print the prices for the remodels in them. I once bought one that actually had the prices, and someone did a small bathroom remodel that cost more than my house.

Fade
11 years ago

@Derek

Like you didn’t handpick your examples of “female propaganda”

“Tamsin Egerton as Guinevere – an ambitious and strong willed woman who is shown as source of great support and strength to Arthur, the king:”

This shows a well written character. It doesn’t show female propaganda.

@Kittehs

It does sound rather pellish…

Derick
Derick
11 years ago

@augochlorella

GaoGaiGar is Japanese. Japanese Media is meritorious.It is unlike the American Media.In fact it is almost the opposite. It does not portray insufferable Feminism.

Alex
11 years ago

It is Pell, isn’t it? Nobody else could be this ridiculous, surely? I guess we have to wait for him to claim he’s a doctor and also invented Unix to be sure.

Kittehserf
11 years ago

BWAHAHAHAHA Camelot as in the musical, as in made in the 60s, halfwit.

Also “current” – Lillyhammer is on right now. You ignored that.

Auf Wiedersehen, Pet is only a few years old (the more recent series, not the original).

Make up your alleged mind, sonny. You said “any” then contradicted yourself. I chose things I’ve watched. Since I don’t absorb myself in current US television, you’ll just have to make do.

You’ve also ignored everyone else’s suggestions.

Pell, you really are a loser, kid, you know that?

Shiraz
Shiraz
11 years ago

Now he’s pretending our examples weren’t current. Dude, I named The Killing, Hannibal, Bates Hotel, Game of Thrones and The Following. And you picked Camelot ?!

**falls into a fit of laughter**

I shall have some wine now.

archaeoholmes
11 years ago

@kittehserf Yes, noticed that, about the cherry-picking. Talk about projection! I don’t think I’ve been here long enough to know Pell. Whenever anyone here says his name, it makes me think of Cardinal Pell, which is doubly revolting.

Alex
11 years ago

This is so Pell…

serrana
serrana
11 years ago

Derick, I don’t watch tv and I only watch maybe 2 movies a year. So why does this matter to me?

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