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The Myth of Warren Farrell: Farrell on Rape, Part One

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No book has had more influence over the Men’s Rights movement than Warren Farrell’s The Myth of Male Power. Published in 1993, in the heyday of the early 90s antifeminist backlash, it set the agenda for the Men’s Rights movement as it’s developed over the last two decades.  He’s the one who came up with the notions of “male disposability” and the “death professions.” He’s the one who got MRAs fixated on the issue of draft registration.

Indeed, so pervasive has his influence been that if you see an MRA making a dumb argument anywhere on the Internet, the chances are probably more than 50-50 that it originated in the pages of Farrell’s book. Despite its age, and its eccentricity, The Myth of Male Power is still the first book recommended to MRA newbies in the sidebar of the Men’s Rights subreddit, the most active MRA hangout online.

It’s a book that deserves a lot more attention than I have been giving it on this blog. Sure, I’ve written about Farrell’s strange and creepy notions about incest, as set forth in a notorious interview in Penthouse in the 1970s, and about his recent attempts to explain away these views. But I haven’t devoted any blog posts to his most influential work. I intend to rectify that now, with a series of posts on some of Farrell’s chief arguments and assertions.

I will start with several posts on Farrell’s views on rape, which has been the subject of much controversy of late. This part will deal with his general statements on rape and sexuality; another will explore in more detail his views on date rape (did he really describe it as “exciting?”); and still another will look at the vast assortment of things he has inappropriately compared to rape.

Pinning down what Farrell “really believes” about rape – and indeed, about almost anything– is difficult. Farrell’s arguments, such as they are, are slippery and evasive. Instead of setting forth a clear argument about rape, Farrell instead provides us with a series of jumbled metaphors and strange comparisons. Instead of trying to summarize them – many of them defy summary — let’s just go through them one by one.

Farrell supporters will likely suggest that these quotes are taken “out of context,” to which I can only say: Check his book to see for yourself. None of his troubling quotes are any less troubling, or for that matter any clearer, in context, and many don’t have much of a context. Farrell writes in a rambling, free-associational style, and many of the “arguments” he makes in the following quotes seem to come from out of the blue, and are never developed further (though some, as you will see, are referenced again in later quotes).

Page numbers given are from the 1993 hardcover edition of The Myth of Male Power.

All that out of the way, let’s jump right in:

Near the start of his book , Farrell sets the tone for what will come by suggesting that men suffer as much sexual trauma from women’s mixed signals as women do from rape:

Feminism has taught women to sue men for sexual harassment or date rape when men initiate with the wrong person or with the wrong timing; no one has taught men to sue women for sexual trauma for saying “yes,” then “no,” then “yes.” … Men [are] still expected to initiate, but now, if they [do] it badly, they could go to jail. (p. 16)

Here, he elaborates on the notion that rape is a matter of bad timing, of “tak[ing] risks too quickly.”

In the past, both sexes were anxious about sex and pregnancy. Now the pill minimizes her anxiety and condoms increase his. Now the pimple faced boy must still risk rejection while also overcoming his own fear of herpes and AIDS and reassuring her there is nothing to fear. He must still do the sexual risk-taking, but now he can be put in jail if he takes risks too quickly or be called a wimp if he doesn’t take them quickly enough . (p. 168)

Here, Farrell falls back on the old “rape is misunderstanding” canard, and somehow manages to compare sexual activity –- from kissing up to and including rape — to eating a bag of potato chips.

It is also possible for a woman to go back to a man’s room, tell him she doesn’t want to have intercourse, mean it, start kissing, have intercourse, and then wish she hadn’t in the morning. How? Kissing is like eating potato chips. Before we know it, we’ve gone further than we said we would. (p. 311)

Here, he seems to seriously suggest that juries could do a better job judging rape cases if they were sexually aroused.

The problem with every judgment of sexual behavior is that it is made by people who aren’t being stimulated as they are making the judgment. A jury that sees a woman in a sterile courtroom, asks her what she wanted, and then assumes that anything else she did was the responsibility of the man is insulting not only the woman but the power of sex. (p. 312)

And then he returns to the potato chip metaphor.

A man being sued after a woman has more sex than intended is like Lay’s being sued after someone has more potato chips than intended. In brief, date rape can be a crime, a misunderstanding, or buyer’s remorse. (p. 312)

Farrell repeatedly tries to absolve men of sexual wrongdoing by suggesting that they are literally intoxicated by female beauty.

Sexually, of course, the sexes aren’t equal. It is exactly a woman’s greater sexual power that often makes a man so fearful of being rejected by her that he buys himself drinks to reduce his fear. In essence, her sexual power often leads to him drinking; his sexual power rarely leads to her drinking. If anything is evidence of her power over him, it is his being expected to spend his money to buy her drinks without her reciprocating.  …

It is  men – far more than women – whose mental capacities are diminished when they are “under the influence” of a beautiful woman. (p. 320)

But Farrell thinks it’s “sexist” – against men – to put men in jail for “selling sex” to intoxicated women:

As long as society tells men to be the salespersons of sex, it is sexist for society to put only men in jail if they sell well. We don’t put other salespersons in jail for buying clients drinks and successfully transforming a “no” into a “maybe” into a “yes.” If the client makes a choice to drink too much and the “yes” turns out to be a bad decision, it is the client who gets fired, not the salesperson.  (p. 321)

We’ve only just begun to scratch the surface of Warren Farrell’s equally daft and disturbing views on sex and rape. Stay tuned.

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katz
11 years ago

Of course in this context (“why isn’t David talking about it?”), “women on TV are less important than rape” is a legitimate answer. But one could just as well respond “it’s outside the scope of this blog” or simply “David didn’t want to write about it.”

Aaliyah
11 years ago

I referred to it empirically. Even if one Man is in charge of the entire organization, that organization still functions based upon the wishes of the Female audience, and not the Male audience.

Got anything else to pull out of your ass?

If one observes closely, one would find incessant Female propaganda, that glorifies Women at the expense of Men, and the saddest most Pathetic part is, Men are being indoctrinated :Brainwashed, every single day!

I’m glad you have more.

I’ve experienced female propaganda before. Being told that as a trans* woman I’m really just a man who has no self-respect and has failed in being a “real man” is definitely the doing of a no-good uppity matriarchal oligarchy!

Yup.

What it portrays is NOTHING but Feminism.

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Kittehserf
11 years ago

I wonder if trolly mctrollerston thinks that the women in the television can see him and are deliberately not smiling at him or taking any notice of him?

katz
11 years ago

Ophelia, do you have a snowshoe? They are beautiful cats.

Fade
11 years ago

Actors having expressions while acting is totally like being spat on! It is killing men! Misandry!!1!!eleventy!!

It is true. Actresses are not supposed to have expressions while acting, because this might convey the erroneous assumption that women have emotions and are people.

Tho I second katz re: not loving “has anyone died b/c tv” because things can happen that aren’t death that are still bad. Not like actresses having snobby looks is bad, or even a thing that exists.

Derick
Derick
11 years ago

@Aaliyah

Female Propaganda –

Arrogation- Women taking undeserved credit for Men’s work – Zero Dark thirty

Glorification – Women being aggrandized – Big bang theory(Female scientists), Simpsons (Lisa Simpson- Female child Genius) Burn Notice – Fiona Glenanne (Kicks Every Man’s ass)

Denigration (Of men) – 2 Broke girls, Mad Men

Of course, these are just a handful of examples that I presented to explain what ‘Propaganda’ really is.

If I go into details and start naming everything, trust me, I would take days to actually complete that list.

Women Propaganda is EVERYWHERE. Women are deified, Men are belittled, and at the same time, the audience is subconsciously indoctrinated.

This is my first day on this website, so don’t worry, I’ll make sure that I inform everyone about the reality by the time I am done.

Kittehserf
11 years ago

ophelia, your Boudica (coolest name!) must be queen of gorgeous if she looks like that kitty. Remind me, is that her in your gravatar?

Fade
11 years ago

Oh, and random conversation question since manboobzers always have surprising bastions of knowledge, assuming I’m even using bastion correctly.

Has anyone here self-taught themselves a language? I am not in the position to afford classes by a teacher and am curious about advice…

Kittehserf
11 years ago

This is my first day on this website, so don’t worry, I’ll make sure that I inform everyone about the reality by the time I am done.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

katz
11 years ago

I wonder if trolly mctrollerston thinks that the women in the television can see him and are deliberately not smiling at him or taking any notice of him?

So…am I the only one who feels weird if I pick my nose or fart while using the computer because I feel like the guy on my background is judging me?

serrana
serrana
11 years ago

BETTY DRAPER HAS A SNOBBY LOOK ON HER FACE THE MEN OF THE WORLD ARE BEING DENIGRATED

Derick, do something with your life besides watch TV, k?

Derick
Derick
11 years ago

@Aaliyah says : Got anything else to pull out of your ass?

I am trying to be polite. Kindly try to reciprocate. If that is too difficult, at least try not be profane

Aaliyah
11 years ago

This is my first day on this website, so don’t worry, I’ll make sure that I inform everyone about the reality by the time I am done.

I wish you would pay as much if not more attention to actually understanding the feminist conception of patriarchy. But nooooooooooope! Gotta inform us about that “misandry” first.

Aaliyah
11 years ago

I am trying to be polite. Kindly try to reciprocate. If that is too difficult, at least try not be profane

So long as I’m being abusive, I’m ok with being abrasive.

opheliamonarch
11 years ago

@Katz, sorry, didn’t explain properly.
I meant the other cat in the video not grumpy cat, although he is lovely. The other cat looks just like Boudica, my lovely girl (the cat in my avatar). 🙂

Aaliyah
11 years ago

so long as I’m NOT being abusive. Oops. V_V

katz
11 years ago

This is my first day on this website, so don’t worry, I’ll make sure that I inform everyone about the reality by the time I am done.

…Just vaulted from “terrible troll” to “awesome troll” in that one sentence.

Since we don’t have the “citation needed” gif.

Fade
11 years ago

Glorification – Women being aggrandized – Big bang theory(Female scientists), Simpsons (Lisa Simpson- Female child Genius) Burn Notice – Fiona Glenanne (Kicks Every Man’s ass)

… wait, what’s wrong with female scientists? oooh, three tv shows! I can do better than that.

Men being aggrandized:

James Bond
Tom Cruise ethan hunt (I originally wrote Tom cruise because I consider his character tom cruise since he can’t act)
Anything written by Seth McFarlane
That episode in buffy where xander stops the school from exploding.
Mal in Firefly

Okay, I admit, some of these are pulled from my ass, but I bet all of Trolly’s were.

Denigration (Of men) – 2 Broke girls, Mad Men

Wow, two tv shows denigrate men, as opposed to like, a gazillion that denigrate women. YOu are some lucky chump.

Also, you have yet to prove how these are being aggrandized or denigrated. You just listed names and expected everyone to have the same tv preferences and opinions as you. Cuz I got no clue what you’re talking about, since I don’t watch half those shows.

archaeoholmes
archaeoholmes
11 years ago

You know, I don’t watch much tv, but the last few series I watched were almost completely about men – Sopranos, Breaking Bad, Boardwalk Empire, The Wire, Sons of Anarchy… My family watch Dr Who, something of a glorified male character. Although now I think about it, these shows could be misandrist too because there are some female characters in them.

opheliamonarch
11 years ago

@kitteh, yup, my blue girl, Boo to her friends. She’s sitting looking very regal at the moment, she definitely deserves that name 🙂

canuck_with_pluck
canuck_with_pluck
11 years ago

Yet we don’t like to acknowledge that doing what you can to someone until they stop you is a common model in some sexual interactions.

And the fact that it can be described as a “common model in some sexual interactions” indicates further than rape culture is alive and well.

Also, manboobzers seem to have their heads on straight. I have an off-topic question. Have any of you ever had so much energy that you’re shaking? Yesterday–and somewhat today–I have been very energetic, and I’ve gotten so much done, and I’ve been in an awesomely good mood. I really like this. But it’s freaking me out a little because if I’m sitting still at all I start to shake because I feel like I need to be moving and I start to get twitchy and shaky. Last night I didn’t go to bed until 3, because I simply didn’t feel the need to. I woke up at 7:30…got out of bed at 8. I certainly am tired, but still have lots of energy and don’t feel like I need to go to bed just yet. (it’s 11:30pm where I am) I don’t know if this is build-up because I’ve been having some depression in the last few months, and now the energy I didn’t have is coming all at once, or what. I also just started (as in Monday) on an increased dose of thyroid meds, so that may be causing it as well. It’s just really weird. I like having energy, but I hate the twitchiness. Any input would be appreciated.

Fibinachi
Fibinachi
11 years ago

@Fade:

Spanish and English.
(Some German)

What kind of advice are you thinking of?

@Derick:

Arrogation! Appropriation! Denigration!
All across the nation!
Indoctrination! Excommunication! Aggravation!
Terrible plans made by people in the dark!
Glorification, annotation, deification
all those women are smug and out to get you

And the faces you see at the back of the tv
are out to get you, I’m sure
The actors and acts, emotions portrayed
Tell you of the danger of being enslaved
So listen to the messages in the static of the screen
and scream about the reality of the things you’ve seen.

Fade
11 years ago

I am trying to be polite. Kindly try to reciprocate. If that is too difficult, at least try not be profane

The words you say are not what makes you polite. How you say them does. And saying that you’re going to “Make us aware of reality” is condescending, and not polite.

Catwoman
Catwoman
11 years ago

@Derick, I wonder i you just are nitpicking. Sometimes we go for shows/literature that just “prove” what we want to think.

And tbh your examples aren’t even great, TBBT might have female scientists but Sheldon is the genius. Men are far from belittled on television. Aside from some family sitcoms like everyone loves raymond (and even in those cases i dislike the way women are presented. i rather be someone who doesn’t care about the house but about fun and is not nagging while my main occupation is being a housewife) men are portrayed very well.

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