Leave it to Roosh V’s Return of Kings blog to publish the most reprehensible thing I’ve yet seen related to the Boston Marathon bombing.
In a post with the lovely title “The American Woman Has Hit An All-Time Low,” guest blogger Samseau offers some thoughts – that is to say, wild, unsupported speculation – about the widow of bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev, and uses that as evidence in a case against American women as a whole, declaring her “a profound marker in the decline of the American woman.”
Samseau bases much of his, er, theorizing on the facts that Tsarnaev was a Muslim immigrant while his widow, Katherine Tsarnaev, nee Russell, was “common American female stock.”
According to most accounts, the two met in a nightclub, and Samseau – his head filled with PUA fever dreams — imagines the scenario:
Although it is unclear how he seduced her, my guess is that he got her with some Muslim game: intimidating gazes, ramrod straight stances, bottle service, congregating with all of the other jacked immigrants in the nightclub with their top two shirt buttons undone, and then inviting girls back to his table to talk.
Most likely they both frequented the same nightclubs when he noticed her, and made a few attempts to get her back to his place before he went for the close. Given that she was an American woman, she put out right away as she did for so many other men in her freshman and sophmore years.
Wouldn’t you hit it? I know I would.
Samseau is somehow able to conjure all this up from the one widely reported fact that the two met in a nightclub.
But it’s what he manages to conjure up from the reports that Tamerlan Tsarnaev physically abused his wife that really takes Samseau’s post over the top. (TRIGGER WARNING in what follows for Samseau’s strange apologia for domestic violence against women.)
Noting that Tsarnaev was arrested for domestic violence against another girlfriend around the time Katherine Russell started dating him, Samseau concludes that “Katherine knew this guy was a piece of shit from the get-go, but most likely willfully ignored it in favor of her lusts.”
Oh, but Samseau is just getting started. He then posits that because
Katherine was a young American woman, she most likely did not see Tsarnaev, or any man she was banging, as anything beyond fun. But because Tsarnaev was a violent man, using force, coercion, and beatings to keep her from straying. Any hint of infidelity resulted in some kind of punishment for Katherine.
Samseau, while registering polite disdain towards Tsarnaev’s alleged violence towards his wife, also seems to regard it as something of a necessity:
I am not surprised that it took the violence of Tsarnaev’s level to keep a young and beautiful girlfriend in Boston. I know that hookup culture well, and girls actively dump and cheat on men whenever they so please. Men are more likely to be pump and dumped than the women are.
Yes, that’s right, he’s arguing that the only way to keep young and beautiful American women from cheating is to beat them. Adding insult to injury — quite literally — Samseau goes on to argue that this is how American women secretly like it.
Thus we reach the disturbing conclusion of this story – Katherine was not a victim, she was not a special case, she was an ordinary American woman who represented her culture in every way, and that is precisely why she betrayed it. She was given everything a woman could want in life, and instead she choose to find something, someone – anyone – who could take it away from her. Unsatisfied with her life of being catered on beck and call, of whim and notion, she was drawn to the first man who would remove it all and place chains around her – even if that man hated the country who raised her. …
And since Katherine was nothing more than an “All-American girl,” it is reasonable to conclude that most American women are exactly like Katherine – unhappy with their spoiled lives who would gladly give it up just for a chance to be enthralled by a powerful man. The women of this country have no more loyalty to the land that raised them, but instead are opportunists looking for a chance to submit in pleasure.
Samseau follows this appalling victim-blaming bullshit with a version of the standard-issue Nice Guy ™ Lament:
Until that opportunity comes, they will hate on all men who try to be anything good towards them, and act out against them – by denying them sex and relationships, by throwing them in jail with trumped up charges, by stealing their money under the pretense of marriage – until they are forced to stop. And it doesn’t take much to stop them – even a welfare bum like Tsarnaev could do it.
Oh, but Samseau isn’t exactly recommending that American men beat their girlfriends – because this would be bad for them. For the men, that is.
Now, I do not think any man should go around beating women just so he can keep them. This is obviously a shitty, destructive way to live that will only cause you more pain and unhappiness in the long run. Any woman that requires beatdowns in order to remain faithful is a garbage woman who will never make you happy. And yet with the extreme shortage of eligible American women, what is a good American man supposed to do?
Samseau ends his post with a suggestion that American men leave the country to some foreign paradise where women aren’t so, well, American. Which is, I suppose, a better alternative than advising men to stick around and beat up women. Be thankful for small mercies, I guess.
Tree trunks for breakfast? He needs that much fiber to stay regular? I pity the man.
I once took Roosh’s alpha test on behalf of my husband. The first part is all about your traits, and Mr. S was scoring alpha, alpha, alpha, all down the list. Then we got to the questions about a man’s attitudes and behaviors, and he was beta, beta, and more beta. So I think that makes him an alphabeta?
I’ve had the song “Sweet as whole” stuck in my head for the past two days, and it makes me think of this site.
MRA logic:
Some women date terrible men. Therefore, all women are terrible.
Some men date terrible women. Therefore, all women are terrible.
Some men date terrible men: ???? (They probably find some way to spin this so that all women are terrible, but I’m not sure how).
Some women date terrible women: Therefore, all women are terrible.
Some people are neither men nor women: FEMINIST LIES
@hellkell: “Troofy, stop sending up flare’s from Mom’s basement, we don’t care.”
I had an image of a pair of flares, as in trousers, on a broomstick, when I read that. Given it’s Troofy, it’s quite possible.
@Babylawyer: “Also, any of the hetero ladies here dating a notably awesome non-jerk? I am. Yay for MRA tropes not actually playing out in real life, and double yay for Sir Baby (whose existence doubles as brain bleach for this poppycock…)!”
Married to one! I can say the same about double yays and brain bleach re: Mr K. 🙂
Some men date terrible men, because women are even more terrible.
Ah! You’re probably right serrana.
Some men date terrible men: because their mother (or mother figure) didn’t teach them better?
Yeah, I was going to go with some men date terrible men because of their terrible mothers.
Because men dating terrible men is another conspiracy. Obviously. And not just another example of the vagaries of human nature. It all boils down to scented candles in the end.
And sodomy with scented candles is still misandry?
This isn’t either/or–and it isn’t like consistency is a basic feature of MRA thoughts!
I also find it really interesting what MRAs talk about when it comes to talking about bad relationship behavior in men and women. They talk a big game about women being domestic abusers, but only seem to bring it up when feminists try to talk about male on female domestic abuse. When they talk about women being terrible girlfriends, they talk about women:
1) Leaving them
2) Wanting men to help support their children
3) Taking care of their own children without help from Dad
Two of which are perfectly morally neutral things to do, and the third is likely a continuation of relationship dynamics when they were together (not to mention in conflict with 2).
When they talk about men being terrible in relationships, they talk about domestic abuse–which is not morally neutral–and don’t even blame the men , preferring to blame the victims.
Yeah, it um… It’s not even a double standard. It’s just “women are terrible whatever they do and men are always excused.”
Will someone please tell me where to pick up my money and power that I automatically have as an American woman? I’m broke and nobody listens to me. How do I take possession of this fabulous wealth, and get the ability to make men do anything i say?
Snark.
@baroncognito Totally. Everything is. NEVER FORGET.
I am dating a not-jerk! It’s swell.
So way OT, but while I was walking back to my apartment a few minutes ago, some guy did the “call me” sign from his car at me as he drove by. I’m so confused. How am I supposed to call him if I don’t have his number? What was he expecting from me? What was the best-case scenario here?
augochlorella – maybe he was a phone rep with a new and ineffective sales technique?
Doesn’t every woman have a built in homing device activated when a man makes a slightly interested gesture in our direction?
Maybe I was supposed to leap onto his car.
It would be the proper thing to do.
Me: *jumps onto windshield* Hi. I’m not really interested in dating right now, but I wanted to tell you that you really shouldn’t call out at women on the street. It’s street harassment and it makes a lot of women really uncomfortable.
Him: *swerving mildly* Oh gosh, I’m sorry if I made you uncomfortable at all. You’re right, I’ll never harass women again.
Me: No worries, just make sure you learn from this. Got to go. *leaps off car* *aces of all her finals this week*
That should be “all of her finals”. I hope I didn’t just jynx it.
He sounds like he is describing a “two wild and crazy guys” skit from SNL.
It is Chechnya, not Czechoslovakia, Roosh! Criminy!
augochlorella, I am totally picturing that as an action movie.
Just make sure to do an X-Man type pose on dismount. They don’t get the point without the pose.
… their top two shirt buttons undone…
Heh, I think he got Muslim game mixed up with 70s Ethnic Stereotype game. Then again, there is this.