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Roosh’s Return of Kings blog: Tamerlan Tsarnaev had an American wife, therefore American women want to be beaten

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Leave it to Roosh V’s Return of Kings blog to publish the most reprehensible thing I’ve yet seen related to the Boston Marathon bombing.

In a post with the lovely title “The American Woman Has Hit An All-Time Low,” guest blogger Samseau offers some thoughts – that is to say, wild, unsupported speculation – about the widow of bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev, and uses that as evidence in a case against American women as a whole, declaring her “a profound marker in the decline of the American woman.”

Samseau bases much of his, er, theorizing on the facts that Tsarnaev was a Muslim immigrant while his widow, Katherine Tsarnaev, nee Russell, was “common American female stock.”

According to most accounts, the two met in a nightclub, and Samseau – his head filled with PUA fever dreams — imagines the scenario:

Although it is unclear how he seduced her, my guess is that he got her with some Muslim game: intimidating gazes, ramrod straight stances, bottle service, congregating with all of the other jacked immigrants in the nightclub with their top two shirt buttons undone, and then inviting girls back to his table to talk.

Most likely they both frequented the same nightclubs when he noticed her, and made a few attempts to get her back to his place before he went for the close. Given that she was an American woman, she put out right away as she did for so many other men in her freshman and sophmore years.

Wouldn’t you hit it? I know I would.

Samseau is somehow able to conjure all this up from the one widely reported fact that the two met in a nightclub.

But it’s what he manages to conjure up from the reports that Tamerlan Tsarnaev physically abused his wife that really takes Samseau’s post over the top. (TRIGGER WARNING in what follows for Samseau’s strange apologia for domestic violence against women.)

Noting that Tsarnaev was arrested for domestic violence against another girlfriend around the time Katherine Russell started dating him, Samseau concludes that “Katherine knew this guy was a piece of shit from the get-go, but most likely willfully ignored it in favor of her lusts.”

Oh, but Samseau is just getting started. He then posits that because

Katherine was a young American woman, she most likely did not see Tsarnaev, or any man she was banging, as anything beyond fun. But because Tsarnaev was a violent man, using force, coercion, and beatings to keep her from straying. Any hint of infidelity resulted in some kind of punishment for Katherine.

Samseau, while registering polite disdain towards Tsarnaev’s alleged violence towards his wife, also seems to regard it as something of a necessity:

I am not surprised that it took the violence of Tsarnaev’s level to keep a young and beautiful girlfriend in Boston. I know that hookup culture well, and girls actively dump and cheat on men whenever they so please. Men are more likely to be pump and dumped than the women are.

Yes, that’s right, he’s arguing that the only way to keep young and beautiful American women from cheating is to beat them. Adding insult to injury — quite literally — Samseau goes on to argue that this is how American women secretly like it.

Thus we reach the disturbing conclusion of this story – Katherine was not a victim, she was not a special case, she was an ordinary American woman who represented her culture in every way, and that is precisely why she betrayed it. She was given everything a woman could want in life, and instead she choose to find something, someone – anyone – who could take it away from her. Unsatisfied with her life of being catered on beck and call, of whim and notion, she was drawn to the first man who would remove it all and place chains around her – even if that man hated the country who raised her. …

And since Katherine was nothing more than an “All-American girl,” it is reasonable to conclude that most American women are exactly like Katherine – unhappy with their spoiled lives who would gladly give it up just for a chance to be enthralled by a powerful man. The women of this country have no more loyalty to the land that raised them, but instead are opportunists looking for a chance to submit in pleasure.

Samseau follows this appalling victim-blaming bullshit with a version of the standard-issue Nice Guy ™ Lament:

Until that opportunity comes, they will hate on all men who try to be anything good towards them, and act out against them – by denying them sex and relationships, by throwing them in jail with trumped up charges, by stealing their money under the pretense of marriage – until they are forced to stop. And it doesn’t take much to stop them – even a welfare bum like Tsarnaev could do it.

Oh, but Samseau isn’t exactly recommending that American men beat their girlfriends – because this would be bad for them. For the men, that is.

Now, I do not think any man should go around beating women just so he can keep them. This is obviously a shitty, destructive way to live that will only cause you more pain and unhappiness in the long run. Any woman that requires beatdowns in order to remain faithful is a garbage woman who will never make you happy. And yet with the extreme shortage of eligible American women, what is a good American man supposed to do?

Samseau ends his post with a suggestion that American men leave the country to some foreign paradise where women aren’t so, well, American. Which is, I suppose, a better alternative than advising men to stick around and beat up women. Be thankful for small mercies, I guess.

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Briznecko
Briznecko
11 years ago

Also, when woman give birth the baby comes with a notorized paternity test proving who the father is.

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
11 years ago

Except when the man wants a paper abortion; then you can’t prove it’s his, sucker!

thebionicmommy
thebionicmommy
11 years ago

Amused,

Right, during pregnancy, you are allowed to have a baby bump at your tummy, but must not gain weight anywhere else (an exception might be made for boobs, depending on if the guy likes DD’s or not.) As long as everything else is thin, then you will be considered cute, but not sexy. You are allowed to have up to a week after childbirth to get back in to your pre pregnancy jeans, because that’s what some celebrity with a personal trainer and chef was able to do.

Oh, and even if you’re completely exhausted and miserable from pregnancy, you can’t take a break from cooking, cleaning, and caring for older children. Pretend you feel just like you did before pregnancy. If you ever complain, that means your wacky pregnancy hormones are just making you bitchy!

The worst I know if is a friend of mine who mowed her yard with a push mower when she was supposed to be on bed rest. She said she was sick of begging her husband to do it, and the grass was so tall she was afraid the city would fine them. Afterwards, he actually had the nerve to whine that the neighbors gave him dirty looks and judged him about having his very pregnant wife struggling with a heavy push mower. I guess the important thing is that he never had to get off his ass and stop watching football, god forbid. Oh, but women are too demanding, you know. If she had been a perfect wife, she wouldn’t have asked him in the first place. /rolls eyes

re: men worrying about balding, gaining weight, not looking like Brad Pitt

I admit that men deal with lookism and ageism to some degree. However, they need to understand that what they deal with in this area is nothing like what women deal with. It’s not in the same ballpark. So if you’re the kind of guy that makes fun of “fatties” and “hags”, then don’t expect me to feel much sympathy for you when you whine about male pattern baldness. Fair is fair.

Aaliyah
11 years ago

You are the best judge of when you are ready. But it will probably feel abrupt and intimidating no matter when you do it.

PS I’m sure there will be a period where things are really bad, but you never know; it’s possible your dad will surprise you. He controls you right now because he can. Maybe when you get to a position where you don’t have to be in contact with him unless you want to, he’ll decide that he’s willing to have a relationship on your terms. This can take years or decades, but it does happen.

Probably. I guess I just want to avoid it until I’m relatively less stressed out. That way, even if it’s abrupt when it happens, I can deal with it better emotionally and so on.

As for him changing, that would require him to change his fundamental beliefs. But I suppose anything is possible.

katz
11 years ago

He doesn’t have to change his fundamental beliefs. He just has to decide that he can have a relationship with someone who doesn’t adhere to them. After my uncle came out, he and my Catholic grandma didn’t talk for 20 years, but now they have a good relationship and he calls her every Sunday. She hasn’t stopped being a devout Catholic, she is just willing to put that on the back shelf while she’s around him.

Eurosabra
Eurosabra
11 years ago

They’re horrible writers because they want to be Oswald Spengler or Otto Weininger and such writing tends to come into English very stilted. German-language authors of that period have that problem, Herzl, Büchner, and Hauptmann, who were mainly discussing social ills and problems of liberation (for Herzl, from anti-semitism, for Büchner, from petty monarchy, for Hauptmann, from industrial abuses) produced stunted, clunky prose. In someone trying to imitate the 19th-century racial eugenicist social conservatives, the result is worse.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Shut up, Eurosabra.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

You have to admit that the fact that he doesn’t realize that he’s a terrible writer too is kind of funny.

rahu
rahu
11 years ago

Aaliyah – I’m new here and haven’t commented in a long time, so I hope it doesn’t feel like I’m intruding, but a) I wish you lots of good luck with everything, and b) I had an idea about practicing with your voice. If you can get somewhere private to call, you could call lots of numbers (I’m thinking 1-800 numbers, for example – places where you’re just some random caller) and keep practicing, and when they start referring to you as “ma’am” or “miss” then you’ll know you’ve got it.

Buntzums
Buntzums
11 years ago

Yes because women don’t like being spoiled rotten and treated nicely… and women outside America have no standards… and Roosh isn’t a racist or a bigot… no no no. 🙂

Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

Buntzums — where you drunk posted and stopped? I ask because you’re making far more sense as of late.

Falconer
11 years ago

@rahu — I feel like the calling a 1-800 number seems like it’s not fair to the people who answer. My immediate response is, but they didn’t consent to help someone practice their voice. A slower concern is, a lot of 1-800 numbers are selling something — you might get a hard sell, or a resentful agent who thinks you’re wasting their time.

rahu
rahu
11 years ago

@ Falconer –

Both good points.

What about informational 800 numbers – like the Butterball questions-on-cooking-turkey line, or a come-visit-this-city-let-me-answer-your-questions line – something where there would be some talking, but no hard sells?

rahu
rahu
11 years ago

plus she’d end up being able to cook a great turkey and know all about the history and sights of Albuquerque or whatever. 🙂

Frog
Frog
11 years ago

Read the blog. Nasty. rooosh is utterly repellant and so is this samsheash bloke. I am so tired of hearing about how we’re all sluts, we’re just waiting for someone alpha enough and then we’ll open our legs unquestioningly. Now we deserve to be beaten.

I am everything these “good men” believe they’re owed. Lost my virginity to my husband (no affairs), slim hourglass figure, long hair. Women like me view these men with the contempt they deserve. They are a bunch of bitter losers. I just wish they’d stop whining in the comments of every damn newspaper article I read about women’s issues at the moment.

SIGH sorry rant over. Been a rough week. Glad you’re cataloging all this David.

The wise white man has spoken

Feminism is the ugly girls club. to wage war on the pretty girls of society. you know real girls have curves etc etc. women drinking,swearing and acting like men. in other words like bull dikes. radiacal feminist’s are ugly, man-hating misable ghouls. and like all misable people misey likes company. and they lie to other women. women who have a future you know like husband, children the white picket fence thing and rob them of that future. because they are insane, phyically grotuque and have unpleaseant personalties. and becuse men don’t want them and they are gay for other women they want to recruit more women to their cause becuase they get tired of licking the same pussy every night.

rlsmith
rlsmith
10 years ago

why do manboobz think of the return of queens site?

CommonSense
CommonSense
10 years ago

Return of Kings is just a site for bitter, old, used men to comment on how much their life sucks due to “Americen women” because they fear the truth that everything that turned to shit was hand made by them. They claim it’s okay to cheat on your wife for a younger model because it’s “In their masculine nature”, but criticize women if they cheat for a much less whiner of a man and more logically set (Which is also part of the female woman’s biological needs). This really isn’t a site you should even bother talking about. The members are truly disturbing, even for the average well thought out man. I hope no one bumps into these sewer rats. If you do, just ignore them and hope they scurry away back to the gutters. I really don’t agree with what many feminists believe, nor am I opposed to foreign marriage. The problem with ROTK is that they poison their minds with bitterness and narcissism to the point they became no better than raging feminists themselves.

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