Don’t worry, it’s not a video BY an MRA. It’s a video ABOUT MRAs. A little cartoon, to be specific, by Scott Benson, who has this to say about it on his Vimeo page:
A quick editorial cartoon about the intersection of self-pity, entitlement, rape, territoriality, misogyny and fear of women. You see it all over the place online in the form of Men’s Rights Activists (of whom there are a few reasonable non-misogynists), Men Going Their Own Way, Pick Up Artists, and dudes touting the “Red Pill”, because The Matrix is a good movie. Look any of these up if you have the stomach for it. These are extreme examples, but watered-down forms of these ideas are everywhere.
In lurking their blogs and youtube channels for a while, I’ve noticed that beyond the standard patriarchal chauvinism there is this deep fear of women – what they will do to me, how they will reject me, how they will use me, how they are changing society in a way that does not favor me, how they are making men into something I don’t like, how they are making themselves into something I don’t like, that they won’t give me what I want, and that they won’t give me what I think is rightfully mine. This goes beyond fear of feminism- this is fear of women at its purest. And that, to quote a puppet, leads to anger and hate. It’s sad.
Naturally, Benson had to close the comments to the video because of, you know, too much MRA.
He wrote more about it all on his Tumblr.
I was alerted to the video by various people, including Cloudiah, which reminds me to remind you all to go look at Cloudiah’s excellent Artistry for Feminism And Kittens blog.
GAH! Wish there was a edit function…
*Drove IT barely a block.
For those wondering about Abnoy:
In this comment he says he’s from the Phillipines.
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In this comment he says nothing he did was illegal, due to the difference in the age of consent.
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Which is twelve.
There’s some contention about this–doubt that he’s actually from the Phillipines, the way he seizes on stuff like this to troll.
But honestly, at the end of the day, I’ll take any troll who’ll say stuff that horrible at his word, yanno?
Howard: I just figure the worst of all worlds–they’re lying, but they ~want~ it to be true. Some individuals deserve no credit, period.
>>>Getting friendzoned is getting stuck between states of being for a guy who expects to level up from boy friend to boyfriend.
Another victim of The Narrative. Your problem is with your insistence with trying to make organic relationships fit into whatever cultural box (probably from some romcom, or in the case of guys like you, raunchcom) you want them to fit in.
I know this thread has probably died by now (I’m in Europe and I went to bed pretty much straight after commenting last night), but I just wanted to say thanks for the information, and especially Fibinachi for the wonderful rhyme!
And please, call me Preston 🙂
“There’s some contention about this–doubt that he’s actually from the Phillipines,”
I honestly don’t know whether to take this is a compliment or an insult. Are you that shocked that somebody from the so-called “3rd World” has such a mastery of the English language, not to mention can match wits with you so-called “1st World’ers”?
“Some individuals deserve no credit, period.”
Bah, We Filipinos are not at all as stupid as you may think us colored people to be and enough of us may in fact be even smarter than you. (And yes, I am playing the race card here, my ethnic pride is now getting offended by your racial supremacist vanity & arrogance)
@Abnoy This is yummy ice cream.
Hey, last Fillipino I knew was a honour student, self published poet, elite debator and lead singer in a band. Pretty competent guy, all around. Remarkably charming and witty to. Utter psycopath, but in a way where you could almost forgive him for it.
So no. In fact, I’d say your geographic location is unrelated. 😀
Oh ABNOY!
First, we doubt every word that falls from your putrid mouth. Because you’re a horrible person known to lie for shits and giggles.
Second, no, your race/nationality has no bearing here, your words stand alone and prove you an untrustworthy, manipulative, asshole.
Howard — you forgot how he got all huffy that this would only offend us because of “Western pedo panic”
Which is why I don’t care if it’s all smoke and mirrors. He finds it funny that we’d be upset at the idea of paying a 12 year old for sex. No one with that sense of humor should be taken seriously. At best he’s a classic lulz troll. At worst he’s a pedophile.
“Both” is also an option here.
FWIW, Abnoy’s IP maps to the Philipines. Which doesn’t say anything about his character, though he hasn’t really left us much doubt as to that.
Congrats then ABNOY, there is exactly one thing you can say that we don’t have reason to doubt!
I can believe I am saying this but…
I… like… this!?
Ah, don’t worry about it. “Liking” thing is pretty normal. In time, you’ll even begin to “enjoy” things.
That sensation of lightness in your chest and tickling in the back of your throat is called “Amusement”
MRAbot discovers positive emotions. Is immediately captured and sent for reprogamming by fellow MRAbots.
FTR, assuming this is the same lensman, I think we have a really clueless newb, not a full fledged MRA. That is, I think this one is actual capable of learning. But Mr. Al’s managed to make me think that at least once, so apply salt to my opinion.
I hope it’s genuine. It feels good to see someone turn nice
If he’s capable of learning, awesome. That doesn’t mean that I/we have to teach him, or be tolerant of his tiresome cluelessness.
I am checking Shakesville’s Feminism 101 and Rape Culture 101 right now. I agree with almost all of it, but I am having a bit of trouble getting myself to accept the “Off-Limits Humor” paragraph.
I perfectly understand what the author is trying to say, but it still kind of feels like a weird gender version of airport security (a friend of mine has recently learned the hard way that jokes can actually be considered threats and will be taken seriously no matter how light-hearted and good intentioned they may be)
@lensman A good rule for jokes is they should be made upwards in privilege, not down.
Put it this way, lensman: the joke may seem funny to the person telling it, but what about the person/people hearing it? If it’s something that punches down – ie. is laughing at a weaker or powerless person/group – then they already feel the results of that sort of thing in real life, all the time. What gets called “edgy” humour usually seems to be making a joke of horrible things – rape, racism, you name it – which hurts people already hurt by it.
And really – is it so important to say or write every joke, every bit of humour that comes into one’s head, especially if it’s questionable? Not really. I’ve stuffed up doing that very thing, right here, and I’m certainly not the only one.
The other thing is that saying a joke’s light-hearted or well-intentioned doesn’t help. The person reading it can’t read your mind to know your intention, and something that the joker thinks is light or trivial might be something really horrible and triggering for someone else, or simply cut too close on something important. It’s the person receiving the joke, comment etc who makes that decision. It’s not hard to listen and learn, and if one stuffs up? Apologise and don’t do it again. Better than opening the mouth and changing feet.
Ninjaed by archaeoholmes in one line! 😀
Snap!
Okay… light-hearted, well-intentioned humour can hurt people. Is it any great loss to you to be asked, in advance, to avoid saying certain things in order to participate in those communities? Do you consider your urge to tell jokes as more important than the feelings of anyone who could potentially be affected by them? If so, that’s a pretty selfish attitude.
If it helps, there’s not much that’s off-limits here at Man Boobz. Freeze peach lives!!1! But some of us may well react very negatively to what you have to say.
I have also been ninja’ed! *Clutches chest*