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Funny Men’s Rights Video Time!

Don’t worry, it’s not a video BY an MRA. It’s a video ABOUT MRAs. A little cartoon, to be specific, by Scott Benson, who has this to say about it on his Vimeo page:

A quick editorial cartoon about the intersection of self-pity, entitlement, rape, territoriality, misogyny and fear of women. You see it all over the place online in the form of Men’s Rights Activists (of whom there are a few reasonable non-misogynists), Men Going Their Own Way, Pick Up Artists, and dudes touting the “Red Pill”, because The Matrix is a good movie. Look any of these up if you have the stomach for it. These are extreme examples, but watered-down forms of these ideas are everywhere.

In lurking their blogs and youtube channels for a while, I’ve noticed that beyond the standard patriarchal chauvinism there is this deep fear of women – what they will do to me, how they will reject me, how they will use me, how they are changing society in a way that does not favor me, how they are making men into something I don’t like, how they are making themselves into something I don’t like, that they won’t give me what I want, and that they won’t give me what I think is rightfully mine. This goes beyond fear of feminism- this is fear of women at its purest. And that, to quote a puppet, leads to anger and hate. It’s sad.

Naturally, Benson had to close the comments to the video because of, you know, too much MRA.

He wrote more about it all on his Tumblr.

I was alerted to the video by various people, including Cloudiah, which reminds me to remind you all to go look at Cloudiah’s excellent Artistry for Feminism And Kittens blog.

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greendaywantsavatars
8 years ago

@hellkell

I assumed slut walk was more popular, so I searched slut walk greece. Didn’t get anything obvious, but unfortunately I read the comments of something…

All that said, yes, I believe people should be able to wear what they want but, at the same time, I’ve got the right to cast aspersions upon that choice if/when I feel like it. Dress like a hooker and I’ll treat you the same. It is called “Slut Walk” after all.

Yuck. Same apologists shit another day.

Also, treat sex workers with respect… (not at you, at commenter)

There is a slut walk france from the looks of things, though, so that one might be international.

I do not see Jezebel being that popular, though…

Abnoy
Abnoy
8 years ago

” better ”

” awful ideas ”

Ah, but it’s all relative, isn’t it? Things are almost never pure black or white but an entire spectrum of never-ending shades of grey (btw I really HATE that series).

Kittehserf
8 years ago

Slutwalks are international, yes. They started in Canada. I think we’ve had them here, too. If the coverage here was anything to go by, they’d be pretty widely known.

I wonder why it is men think they’ve a right to decide what counts as “dressing like a hooker” and treating a woman badly because she doesn’t dress as “modestly” as they think she should? I guess the same thing as makes the same men likely to abuse women who don’t dress attractively enough for their liking. Basic old misogyny, basic old “I own women” thinking.

HEY LENSY

I’m wearing a form-fitting dress! It shows some cleavage! Does that make me “dressed like a hooker” in your alleged mind? Do you think it gives you the right to insult or assault me? But hey, I’m wearing it ‘cos I couldn’t decide what to wear today, and asked my husband if he had any ideas! And he said “Wear the new dress!” So is it all right if I’m wearing it with male approval?

Lensy’s showing his true gobshitery*, for all the I’m-so-sorry-woe-is-me stuff earlier.

*it is too a word

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

Today I am wearing a tshirt that shows most of my arms and a lot of cleavage. This is not because I’m a sex worker, it’s because it’s about 85 degrees.

hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

It’s 85 degrees in the Bay area? I’m about to put the heat on in TX. It’s 52.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

Now that’s weird. It’s been hot here for the past few days.

Bee
Bee
8 years ago

This is a Jen Kirkman quote I really liked about sexist humor on twitter: “God, this is like a weird playground, where some people are having a good time and some people are getting kind of attacked in the corner, and I want them to know about it.”

I don’t think that DUI jokes are a thing (I’ve never heard of them), but if they are, I’m OK with not being able to resort to them in case it triggers someone. Just like I’m totes fine with not telling any dead baby jokes in case someone in the vicinity had a child who died. I mean, who the fuck is so unfunny that their humor relies on having to make someone who is suffering feel shitty?

hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

It was 87 and muggy yesterday. BUT!!! This is the first year I’ve been here where we hit May and no 100 degree days! I’m not complaining about the cold, I like not sweating from unusual places.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

I did see someone under the dryer getting their hair dyed today and feel a bit sorry for them, since air conditioning isn’t really a thing here.

hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

You’d all hear me cry if my central AC went toes up. Speaking of which–seranna, if you’re around, I hope yours got fixed.

Kittehserf
8 years ago

We’ve been having the loveliest autumn days with a few wintry ones thrown in. Bit of a spoiler today with a blasting north wind – not that it’s cold, just full of grit. Blech. Makes me wish I didn’t have to stay off this leg as much as possible; it’s my favourite time of year and I’d love to be doing long walks on the weekends.

pecunium
8 years ago

Abnoy: I know lots of Philipinos. Most are swell people (as with any group, some are shits, e.g. Abnoy).

The doubt about your status is my fault. It’s not that you are too refined a speaker, it’s that I mistook you for someone else; because both of you share the same pathology of liking little girls.

On the other hand: Tch, every person is a product of time and place and I make no apologies for how the milieu in which I was born and raised. In fact, where and when I’m from, I’m considered positively progressive

Way to go. I don’t believe it for a minute (see the aforementioned Philpinos I know. Many of them are primary immigrants. They would disgree with your assessment of your normative (much less, progressive) nature.

hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

Pecunium: it’s Filipino. /pedantry

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

I know lots of people from the Philippines too. Even the one who’s only 18 doesn’t want to have sex with 12 year olds.

In other words, stop blaming your country of origin for your personal failings, Abnoy.

Aaliyah
8 years ago

It’s 85 degrees in the Bay area? I’m about to put the heat on in TX. It’s 52.

Yeah, this is typically when California – even Northern California – gets scorching hot. I was sweating profusely today just after walking outside for ~15 minutes.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

Last summer was oddly cool. I’m guessing that this one may more than make up for it.

Aaliyah
8 years ago

I really hope not. As someone who’s lived most of her life in Colorado, I have very little tolerance for summer heat. Especially the heat in Colorado – yuck. X_X

Aaliyah
8 years ago

Just to clarify, Colorado is known for having very cold winters and very hot summers. In case that sounded weird. =P

hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

People at work are complaining about the cold, I think they’ve lost the plot. I can always get warmer, but when it’s 112 outside, I can’t think straight. That will be here soon enough.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

I’d be complaining too if it was in the 50s in Austin! We should switch climates.

Kittehserf
8 years ago

There definitely needs to be a way to send temperatures/climates via the internet. Think of the northern-southern hemisphere trade it could create.

Aaliyah
8 years ago

Where are you in the Bay Area, hellkell? I live in San Jose, where summer is highly unpleasant because of all the heat. I can’t wait until I can live in Santa Cruz. The weather there is fabulous in the summer.

hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

I’m in Texas.

Aaliyah
8 years ago

Oh. Oops. =S My reading comprehension is awful today.

Viscaria
Viscaria
8 years ago

We had a really cold April. It snowed. A lot. I saw some geese come North in late March during our 5-6 days of decent weather and I felt so bad for them. I hope they made it through okay.

Today was pretty nice though! It’s 8:30 and it’s still 18C (64F). And it hasn’t snowed in 4 whole days XD.

katz
8 years ago

Anyone here know french? I need a few words.

hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

Katz, ask Brz.

HAHAHAHAHA. Sorry.

Viscaria
Viscaria
8 years ago

My French is passable…

Kittehserf
8 years ago

I know a few words of French, but they don’t actually form sentences. 😛

katz
8 years ago

What’s a “hey baby” type greeting in French? I need it for a comic.

Kittehserf
8 years ago

Wiki answers says it’s

Bonjour bébé. (Hello baby)
Salut bébé. (Hey baby,informal)

Viscaria
Viscaria
8 years ago

Where’s BlacBloc when we need him? My grasp of slang is extremely shaky I’m embarrassed to say.

Viscaria
Viscaria
8 years ago

I guess my definition of “passable” leaves something to be desired >.> <.<

katz
8 years ago

Nah, it’s a very specific question.

Kittehserf
8 years ago

I wouldn’t reckon there’d be that much call for learning “Hey, baby!” in French classes. 😀

Lor, now I’m thinking of that Johnny Cool cartoon/puppet at the start of Three Men and a Baby.

katz
8 years ago

Google Translate says “copine” is like “girl, girlfriend, baby” so that sounds more like what I need.

Viscaria
Viscaria
8 years ago

Depends on the French class I suppose!

Kittehserf
8 years ago

Is it some skeeve calling out on the street, katz, or someone talking to a woman they know?

Kittehserf
8 years ago

Oh lord, I just saw the new Pierre!

That answers my question about who’s saying Hello Baby …

😀 😀 😀

katz
8 years ago

You know tomcats would be total, er, catcallers 🙂

lensman
lensman
8 years ago

So… Let me get this straight…

Are you people actually OK with having a law that firmly outlaws insults and offense? Not just sex jokes, but all possible offence?

Are actually OK with laws which makes the state, of all things responsible for protecting you from insult? That leaves it to the ruling establishment to decide not only what is offensive, but also what’s not?

Are you actually OK with laws that give the police extra power to arrest people on a whim based on something that was said or allegedly said?

Are you all, in short, perfectly OK with having a law like the UK’s “Section Five” be a major part of your everyday lives?

Viscaria
Viscaria
8 years ago

Are you people actually OK with having a law that firmly outlaws insults and offense? Not just sex jokes, but all possible offence?

Um, no? Where did you get that from? You are bad at all the things?

greendaywantsavatars
8 years ago

Um, did anyone say they were okay with laws outlawing offense?

Also, I am very uncomfortable with you not acknowledging that different oppression works in different cases. Like, there’s a difference between, “you’re a jerk” and “you’re a cunt” or “you’re a honkey” and “you’re a n*****”

What kinds of hate speech laws are there in existence right now? I’m not exactly sure, all I’ve heard is the us version of “Freedom oz peach” or w/e.

IIRC, canada has some actual hate speech laws, and nothing has gone 1984 over there…

Viscaria
Viscaria
8 years ago

IIRC, canada has some actual hate speech laws, and nothing has gone 1984 over there…

If you fart in public here you are executed.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

I will cling to my deliberate misunderstanding till the death, for I am troll king!

In other words – see, guys? I told you so.

greendaywantsavatars
8 years ago

Okay, according to wikipedia

the legislation forbids discrimination—in the absence of a lawful reason—on the basis of race, colour, ancestry, place of origin, religion, creed, political opinion, marital status, family status, physical or mental disability, sex, sexual orientation, age, and conviction for which a pardon has been granted

THIS IS JUST LIKE COMMUNIST NAZI GERMANY CANADA!!!!!

/in case there was even a sliver of doubt, I was being sarcastic.

It is in Canada, though.

greendaywantsavatars
8 years ago

Okay, Cassandra, you have a better trolldar than me. 😉

I want the record to show that I am young, and eager to learn.

Also, I’ve pretty much given up on keeping my nym fade because every single freaking time it switches it back to “greendaywantsavatars”. So that is probably my new name.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

I’m old and I’ve had more practice. One day you too shall greet ever new troll with an eyeroll and a sighed “oh, not another one”.

Kittehserf
8 years ago

Lensman, are you delilberately ignoring the efforts to reform Section Five? It looks (from info on the UK Parliament website, here) as if there’s a majority who’ll support getting rid of the word “insulting” from it.

And seriously, do you think it takes that sort of law for police to arrest you or worse if you swear at them or insult them?

What’s with your obsession with being able to use slurs, anyway?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

Just in case anyone is just coming in now, let’s recall the fact that all this started because a blog had a comments policy that lensy didn’t like.