Two weeks ago, you may recall, antifeminist crusader and recent A Voice for Men recruit Erin Pizzey made an “Ask Me Anything” appearance on Reddit which was a rousing success, at least by the standards of Reddit and the Men’s Rights movement. (By the standards of logic and ordinary human decency, not so much.) This Saturday, she gave a sort of encore.
Here are some of the interesting things I learned from her latest three-hour appearance. (I haven’t read all thousand-plus comments in the thread; this is based solely on what she herself said. Click on the headlines to see her original comments in their entirety, in context.) Her comments are, as always, models of good sense and lucidity.
Ban feminists from government perhaps! Personally, I think, I would describe feminism, and I have fought for 40 years to publicize the damage that they were doing to family life and men and boys. To me, to condemn men as sole perpetrators of all or almost all atrocities in this world, feminists are a hate movement. I say this because just recently Sweden, Norway, and I think Finland are trying to bring in a law in those countries that will make any criticism of feminism a punishable offense. That is not the action of a movement dedicated to equality and freedom of speech for all, it is totalitarianism.
As far as I’m concerned, a sufficient amount of women have reached boardrooms and many of them publicly have said that they prefer a quality of life which includes family time, which for women in many ways is more important because we, in the long term, through our children and grandchildren. Men, as they climb up the steps to fame and fortune define themselves by how well they can take care of their wives and children. Different lifestyles, different goals, very few women want to spend the time and the total energy in making that high-achieving career lifestyle.
According to the most recent Catalyst survey, only 16.6% of Fortune 500 board members are women, and an even smaller percentage (14.3%) are CEOs. That’s a very strange notion of equality you have there, Ms. Pizzey.
So many men are lickspittles. Often in my travels when I’m speaking, I have asked men, informally, why they would never stand up to women who were devoted to the idea of a world without men. The honest answer was they were too dependent on having relationships with women to stand up for what they believed. …
I think most men live lives of quiet desperation–that’s a quote, I can’t remember who said it but it’s true.
I believe that was Elmer Fudd.
Wait, no, he said something about hunting wabbits. No idea, then. Who could have Thoreau-n such an idea around? Walden you like to know?
I’m not surprised that men are going their own way. Why would any sane man want to risk losing his property, his relationship with his wife, his financial stability, the children that he will be deprived of… at the moment, men don’t have any rights in this area. In England, Harriet Harman and her very powerful harpies are trying to bring in a law that will mean a woman has only got to live with a man for a very short period of time before she’s entitled to exactly the same amount of money and power that is given to married women. That’s already happened in Australia and Canada too!
I am constantly in the company of women in their late 30s and 40s who after choosing a career have decided they want children and marriage. I have to regretfully inform them that the present climate against men, they are very unlikely to have a relationship with a man and will probably never have children.
It’s true. Nowhere is the problem more noticeable than Los Angeles, by the way, where men give themselves the right to date (meaning, they can have sex with as many women as they want at the same time)… very sad situation, but, why would they do anything else? The legal system can destroy them if they commit to a relationship.
The Feminist Hegemony will fuck up your hard drive:
I did manage to get exactly one paper published, decades after the fact, on the surveys I did of the first 100 women in my Refuge. Just one, in a tiny journal. … But the feminist hegemony has worked hard to keep work like this out of the public eye.
They actually destroyed the hard disk of Professor Viano from Washington University when he tried to publish some of this work.
[citation needed]
For what it’s worth, there doesn’t seem to be anyone named Viano associated with Washington University in St. Louis (aside from a physics professor who got her PhD there), nor, for that matter, with George Washington University in Washington DC.
There is an actual Professor Emilio Viano who teaches at American University’s School of Public Affairs and is an adjunct professor of law at the Washington College of Law, and he’s written about violence and victimology so perhaps he is the man Pizzey is referring to. There is, however, no evidence I can find online that anyone, much less the “feminist hegemony,” has ever destroyed his hard drive, and he seems to have published extensively and had what looks like a pretty successful academic career without any obvious hindrance from the evil femlords.
I did find a news article in which Viano is quoted about a case in which the FBI secretly got its hands on the hard drive of one of its agents suspected of selling secrets to the Russians, but 1) that wasn’t Viano’s hard drive and 2) I’m pretty sure the Feminist Hegemony had nothing to do with that, as it was never discussed at any of our meetings that I can recall, though admittedly I spent most of our meetings eating the complementary bon-bons and playing with the cats.
I eagerly await Ms. Pizzey’s clarification of her assertions about the mysterious “Professor Viano from Washington University” and his “hard disk.”
The last little lesson I learned from Pizzey’s appearance:
Fried food gives me indigestion.
This from a woman who claims to care about victims of domestic violence, and whose biggest claim to fame is that she was the founder of one of the first DV shelters for women. Evidently when you spend a lot of time in the company of Men’s Rights Activists, jokes about “battered women” are just part of the landscape.
Ms. Pizzey, might I suggest that if you indeed suffer from any sort of digestive problem it might just be because you are full of shit?
Those poo cakes, once seen they cannot be un-seen.
Good night, Marie, and thank your mom from us.
@cloudiah
She says thank you back. XD (actual words: tell her thank you back. Or you’re welcome. Or something.)
And I am getting off for realz now!
Hi everyone, I just want to leave this here. Some of it is news; some of it isn’t – it’s a kind of summary. Things continue to look bleak for me.
But again, thanks for all of your help.
Clarification: getting off when I can figure out how to log off from my WordPress thingie. Assuming that is what I mean.
Niters, Marie!
Aaliyah, all the hugs.
On the link about the Australian Cat Ladies before: here’s what the Australian Christian Lobby’s website looks like now. So much win!
@aaliyah
I can’t tell if you didn’t embed the link right or I just can’t click wel with touch screens (well that last part is true anyway).
I hope you’re doing okay, and Jedi higs if wanted! (Assumed it wasn’t good news from the context)
Testing
No one would care who this woman is if not for MRAs on Reddit. No one cares*, except the MRAs on Reddit, I should say. Bet you they aren’t talking about her bullshit over on Metafilter.
Nuts still logged on . Sorry.
Aaliyah, my heart goes out to you. Hugs, and if I think of any new ideas I will send them along.
She is ubiquitous.
And goodbye for real real this time, just giving up before my mom finishes dishes.
More hugs your way and good thoughts from me, Aaliyah, if you want them.
Night.
Happy anniversary, Kitteh.
Night, Marie!
Thanks, Myoo! 🙂
This is a little bit off topic, but I would like to call on the great Manboobz collective brain. I have, as far as I can tell, endometrial hyperplasia (my doc called it a ‘thickened endometrium, but they seem to be the same thing). According to my research, it’s a significant risk factor for future uterine or endometrial cancer. I have an appointment with a gyno next week, there will probably be a biopsy involved.
But here’s the deal: even if the biopsy is clear, and the treatment works (and since the treatment is hormones, I’m not holding out a lot of hope, I’ve had some bad experiences), I would still have to get regular ultrasounds, and maybe more biopsies… It just seems like a hellish merry-go-round. I don’t think I could stay sane with the possibility of cancer hanging over my head. If nothing else, my Xanax budget would probably double!
So I’m going to request a hysterectomy. Surgical sterilization is covered under the PlanFirst medicaid waiver program I’m enrolled in, and it would kill two birds with one stone – cancer risk reduced, and no more agonizing menstrual cramps! Has anyone here dealt with hyperplasia or had a hysterectomy? Any advice?
Hugs, prayers and good thoughts going to all who need them.
I haven’t had to deal with either of those things, KathleenB. My mum had a hysterectomy, but much later in life, so I don’t know that she’d have relevant info either. All I can offer is internet hugs if you want them, and say it sounds like you’re making a really good choice, from what you’ve described.
Oh, and I’m a bit slow – happy anniversary Kitteh!
Khitteh: Honestly, if someone would have been willing to take the damned thing out ten seconds after I hit 18, I would have done it then. I have had horrible, stay home from work or school cramps since I was 14 (I’m 35 now). Combine that with a serious phobia of pregnancy and a serious desire to 1) see NephewB grow up and 2) avoid putting my family through ANOTHER health – related nightmare… I’m terrified of surgery, or the gyno saying no, but this is the right thing for me.
My mother had a hysterectomy at 39 if it helps, after many years of pleading. She never looked back.
Thank you, Aaliyah!
May we be saying “happy anniversary” to you in years to come. Whatever it’s an anniversary of.
KathleenB, that sucks mightily. 🙁 I really hope your gyno agrees – have you been seeing zir long, or have any idea what zir reaction is likely to be?
KathleenB, you’ve certainly convinced me. The people I know who’ve had hysterectomies were older than (I think) you are, but they were uniformly glad they did it for what that’s worth.
Khitteh: This is actually a blind referral from my primary doc, so I don’t know. If zie won’t, I’ll have to poke around for one who accepts PlanFirst and will be okay with doing the surgery.