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The Feminist Hegemony will destroy your hard drive, and other things I learned from Erin Pizzey’s return visit to Reddit

Be vewy quiet! Most men wive wives of quiet desperwation.
Be vewy quiet! Most men wive wives of quiet desperwation.

Two weeks ago, you may recall, antifeminist crusader and recent A Voice for Men recruit Erin Pizzey made an “Ask Me Anything” appearance on Reddit which was a rousing success, at least by the standards of Reddit and the Men’s Rights movement. (By the standards of logic and ordinary human decency, not so much.) This Saturday, she gave a sort of encore.

Here are some of the interesting things I learned from her latest three-hour appearance. (I haven’t read all thousand-plus comments in the thread; this is based solely on what she herself said. Click on the headlines to see her original comments in their entirety, in context.) Her comments are, as always, models of good sense and lucidity.

Feminism should be banned as a hate movement because … some feminists allegedly think criticism of feminism should be banned?

Ban feminists from government perhaps! Personally, I think, I would describe feminism, and I have fought for 40 years to publicize the damage that they were doing to family life and men and boys. To me, to condemn men as sole perpetrators of all or almost all atrocities in this world, feminists are a hate movement. I say this because just recently Sweden, Norway, and I think Finland are trying to bring in a law in those countries that will make any criticism of feminism a punishable offense. That is not the action of a movement dedicated to equality and freedom of speech for all, it is totalitarianism.

If Erin Pizzey ever offers to split a piece of  cake with you, and is about to cut it in half, make sure you get to choose which half you get:

As far as I’m concerned, a sufficient amount of women have reached boardrooms and many of them publicly have said that they prefer a quality of life which includes family time, which for women in many ways is more important because we, in the long term, through our children and grandchildren. Men, as they climb up the steps to fame and fortune define themselves by how well they can take care of their wives and children. Different lifestyles, different goals, very few women want to spend the time and the total energy in making that high-achieving career lifestyle.

According to the most recent Catalyst survey, only 16.6% of Fortune 500 board members are women, and an even smaller percentage (14.3%) are CEOs. That’s a very strange notion of equality you have there, Ms. Pizzey.

Though she claims to work on behalf of men, she doesn’t seem to think that highly of many of them. Oh, and she seems a little delusional about what feminism is, but I guess we already knew that.

So many men are lickspittles. Often in my travels when I’m speaking, I have asked men, informally, why they would never stand up to women who were devoted to the idea of a world without men. The honest answer was they were too dependent on having relationships with women to stand up for what they believed. …

I think most men live lives of quiet desperation–that’s a quote, I can’t remember who said it but it’s true.

I believe that was Elmer Fudd.

Wait, no, he said something about hunting wabbits. No idea, then. Who could have Thoreau-n such an idea around? Walden you like to know?

Men Going Their Own Way have some darn sensible ideas about the world, and women need to watch out because men have given themselves the Right to Date:

I’m not surprised that men are going their own way. Why would any sane man want to risk losing his property, his relationship with his wife, his financial stability, the children that he will be deprived of… at the moment, men don’t have any rights in this area. In England, Harriet Harman and her very powerful harpies are trying to bring in a law that will mean a woman has only got to live with a man for a very short period of time before she’s entitled to exactly the same amount of money and power that is given to married women. That’s already happened in Australia and Canada too!

I am constantly in the company of women in their late 30s and 40s who after choosing a career have decided they want children and marriage. I have to regretfully inform them that the present climate against men, they are very unlikely to have a relationship with a man and will probably never have children.

It’s true. Nowhere is the problem more noticeable than Los Angeles, by the way, where men give themselves the right to date (meaning, they can have sex with as many women as they want at the same time)… very sad situation, but, why would they do anything else? The legal system can destroy them if they commit to a relationship.

The Feminist Hegemony will fuck up your hard drive:

I did manage to get exactly one paper published, decades after the fact, on the surveys I did of the first 100 women in my Refuge. Just one, in a tiny journal. … But the feminist hegemony has worked hard to keep work like this out of the public eye.

They actually destroyed the hard disk of Professor Viano from Washington University when he tried to publish some of this work.

[citation needed]

For what it’s worth, there doesn’t seem to be anyone named Viano associated with Washington University in St. Louis (aside from a physics professor who got her PhD there), nor, for that matter, with George Washington University in Washington DC.

There is an actual Professor Emilio Viano who teaches at American University’s School of Public Affairs and is an adjunct professor of law at the Washington College of Law, and he’s written about violence and victimology so perhaps he is the man Pizzey is referring to. There is, however,  no evidence I can find online that anyone, much less the “feminist hegemony,” has ever destroyed his hard drive, and he seems to have published extensively and had what looks like a pretty successful academic career without any obvious hindrance from the evil femlords.

I did find a news article in which Viano is quoted about a case in which the FBI secretly got its hands on the hard drive of one of its agents suspected of selling secrets to the Russians, but 1) that wasn’t Viano’s hard drive and 2) I’m pretty sure the Feminist Hegemony had nothing to do with that, as it was never discussed at any of our meetings that I can recall, though admittedly I spent most of our meetings eating the complementary bon-bons and playing with the cats.

I eagerly await Ms. Pizzey’s clarification of her assertions about the mysterious “Professor Viano from Washington University” and his “hard disk.”

The last little lesson I learned from Pizzey’s appearance:

An appropriate and hilarious response to the trolly question “what type of breading and/or egg wash do you use for battered women?” is:

Fried food gives me indigestion.

This from a woman who claims to care about victims of domestic violence, and whose biggest claim to fame is that she was the founder of one of the first DV shelters for women. Evidently when you spend a lot of time in the company of Men’s Rights Activists, jokes about “battered women” are just part of the landscape.

Ms. Pizzey, might I suggest that if you indeed suffer from any sort of digestive problem it might just be because you are full of shit?

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Marie
Marie
11 years ago

@AK

“I was thinking this exact same thing while reading PEMRA’s explanations. I have met many “moderate” neo-Nazis who don’t hate black people or Jews (they say). They just hate the ones who act uppity, and think it would be better if we all recognized and embraced our inherent differences (which of course means the white man’s inherent superiority). And being a neo-Nazi is really about white pride, you know, not hate. They just want to support and continue their way of life. I mean, there are some bad apples who make it all about the hate, but they’re not all like that, really! (nevermind the fact that most if not all of the leaders are like that)”

🙁 hope you didn’t meet the neo nazis in meatspace, that would extra suck.

Theda Bara
Theda Bara
11 years ago

Oh i did and commented too! The end of me I tell you.

Kittehserf
11 years ago

“You have sucked up far too much airtime here.”

That immediately brought the words “oxygen thief” to mind. Seems apt for permajerk.

Kittehserf
11 years ago

*hurries off to blog*

Theda Bara
Theda Bara
11 years ago

Ha!

Kittehserf
11 years ago

Just left you a reply! 🙂

I’m not even game to say what he dared me to do a picture of last night. Immodesty, he haz it these days.

cloudiah
11 years ago

I have met neonazis in meatspace, back when I was doing clinic defense work. They are exactly as rancid and scary as you would think.

cloudiah
11 years ago

Hm, falling off the garden swing in an x-rated fashion? Sounds like a fun way to celebrate! 😀

Kittehserf
11 years ago

And I wouldn’t expect MRAs to be any less so – certainly no less rancid.

Kittehserf
11 years ago

cloudiah – yes, it was! 😀

Theda Bara
Theda Bara
11 years ago

Kittehs’ you tease! Left you a reply too.

cloudiah
11 years ago

Rancid, definitely, but I doubt they’re as scary. Many of the neonazis were clearly no strangers to violence in real life — in other words, instead of blustering verbally, they went straight to slashing tires, threatening people with tire irons, wading into the crowds and punching people. MRAs like Paul Elam just fantasize about committing violence against women while typing furiously with one hand.

Ew.

cloudiah
11 years ago

And what am I doing?!!??!? I should not be talking about neonazis anywhere in the vicinity of a chat about your anniversary! It’s the nature of commenting on this blog, though!

Sorry. Can I offer you some nice soaps to wash off the stench of bigotry? And maybe some nice lilacs, the kinds from the midwest that actually have some scent rather than just looking pretty?

AK
AK
11 years ago

@marie, sadly, I did meat them in person. I have a family member who went through a neo-Nazi phase (which sounds like a glib way to describe what was actually a horrible time, but I say it that way because he has since done a 180 away from that terribleness), and I knew a lot of his friends.

Shiraz
Shiraz
11 years ago

“So many men are lickspittles. Often in my travels when I’m speaking, I have asked men, informally, why they would never stand up to women who were devoted to the idea of a world without men. The honest answer was they were too dependent on having relationships with women to stand up for what they believed. …”

What in the hell is a lickspittle? And I wonder if, during her “travels,” she actually says this kind of thing to strangers? I mean, whoa, she’d be tragic at a cocktail party.

I see the mansplainer has left for a while. I love when these trolls huff and puff and say things like, “Well, I’d like feminism more if it was more about men.” Or, “Woman centric?! Oh phooey…the world revolves around us.” I mean, why not walk into a NAACP meeting whining, “What about the white people?”

*Sigh*

It’s a good thing it’s Game of Thrones/Mad Men night.

AK
AK
11 years ago

Haha, “meat them in person.” I saw that just as I clicked the post button–I think I was thinking “meatspace” as I wrote that. 😉

Shiraz
Shiraz
11 years ago

Oh Kitteh, happy anniversary!

Marie
Marie
11 years ago

@cloudiah and AK

Jedi hugs if wanted. Sounds super icky to meet them in meatspace.

(Also, I sadly soon will have to give my mom back her iPad, :()

AK
AK
11 years ago

Thanks, Marie. 🙂

And happy anniversary to Kittehs!

cloudiah
11 years ago

Thanks, Marie. AK, I am glad your family member got over it.

cloudiah
11 years ago

In funnier news, r/mr’s current #1 “hot” post is on … a Cosmo article. So much laughage.

Marie
Marie
11 years ago

@kittehs

And it just hit me that I shoul be wishing you a happy a anniversary. (Brain not up to speed with seeing comments. Whoops)

Happy Anniversary!! Glad to hear you guys had fun. 🙂

Theda Bara
Theda Bara
11 years ago

Colour me surprised.

Kittehserf
11 years ago

Thank you for the congrats, everyone! <3

cloudiah, no need for apologies, that's fine! I was thinking much the same thing – MRAs are mostly keyboard warriors and probably total cowards in real life.

The scented soaps and lilacs will be happily accepted, tho'. After all they must be terribly misandric. And Mr K is sufficiently brainwashed to think it doesn't undermine his manly manliness to enjoy stuff like flowers and sweet scents.

*goes into trance about last night*

*needs coffee omg needs coffee*

ahem

AK, I loved "meat them". Though I suspect MRAs would be about as edible as poo cake.

Marie
Marie
11 years ago

G night everyone, it is both almost close to my bed time and my mom wants me to give her iPad back.

It was nice to talk to you all again 😀

/this manboobzing brought to you by my mom, who was nice enough to let me use her iPad.

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