Some words of wisdom from TheRedPill subreddit, a lovely little subdivision of Reddit devoted to a sort of mishmash of Menβs Rights and Pickup Artistry. Itβs at least as ridiculous as the sum of its parts.
And I can prove that with actual numbers. Well, a single number: 95. Thatβs the number of net upvotes the comment I took the following quotes from had gotten from the assembled Red Pillers (at least when I last looked at it). Letβs listen in as Whisper enlightens us on a variety of topics:
World History:
[M]en have never had an easy ride unless they were one of the aristocracy. We’ve always been the labouring sex, the risk-taking sex, the disposable sex.
Little known fact: Poor women throughout history have never had to work or suffer at all, having been issued comfy pillows and a lifetime supply of bon-bons at birth from the Invisible Matriarchy.
The Squeaky Vagina Gets the Grease:
[W]hen something unfair happens to a woman, her usual response to point this unfairness out to whoever appears to have power. But men, being less submissive, tend to blame ourselves, ask “What am I doing wrong?”, and try to change either our behaviour or our environment (by going elsewhere).
All that complaining you think you hear from Menβs Rights Activists? Not really complaining. Itβs just them wondering what theyβve been doing wrong. Apparently theyβre talking in a strange sort of code. When they refer to βfeministsβ and βbitchesβ and βslutsβ behaving horribly and deserving blame for everything, they are in fact referring to themselves.
On Stabbing:
[W]hen a man sees someone doing better than him, his first impulse is not to stab, but to try to learn.
Good to know! It is generally considered impolite to stab unless someone else attempts to stab you first.
On Advice, Christmas Giving and Bananas in Ears:
[W]omen were certainly willing to give us advice. Oh, boy, were they ever willing to give us advice. Page after page, speech after speech, of what we should and shouldn’t do, who we should and shouldn’t be β¦
And, of course, when we followed this advice, things got worse.
And gradually we came to realize that when we asked these “new women”, empowered by feminism, what a man should do, they didn’t hear “What should a man’s life be like?”, they heard “What do you want for christmas?”.
This last bit seems a little puzzling. Are you sure these women youβve been speaking to didnβt have bananas in their ears?
On Daddies, Ponies and Maternity Leave:
We woke up to the fact that women’s lists of what a man should do were the equivalent of a 12 year old girl asking daddy for a pony. She doesn’t worry about whether daddy can actually afford to buy her one β¦
Every feminist lobbying for paid maternity leave is a submissive asking daddy to care for her. Every “men can stop rape” poster is a woman admitting she cannot protect herself. Every woman complaining that we shouldn’t portray women like that in video games is a woman saying “I can’t make my own video games, please consider my wishes when you make them for both of us”. β¦.
Feminism was never about female independence. If it were, it would not require men to cooperate or even notice. They wouldn’t need us to give them jobs if they started their own businesses. They wouldn’t need us to give them “equal pay” if they were doing the hiring. They wouldn’t need laws mandating maternity leave and free birth control if they were the ones setting, and paying, employee benefits. They wouldn’t need “no means no” if they were the ones making the sexual advances. They wouldn’t need “men can stop rape” if they took responsibility for defending themselves from psychos.
So all we have to do is stop. Say no. You can have a slightly bigger allowance, but you cannot have a pony.
Did you hear that, ladies? Wanting equal pay, or maternity leave, or simply not to be raped β all those things are exactly like throwing a tantrum for a pony.
Also, apparently only men pay taxes, or work in the video game industry, or really anywhere at all. And no one deserves police protection because that means they’re some sort of wuss.
Who knew?
Thanks, TheRedPill subreddit!
EDITED TO ADD: I just noticed that Deansdale’s Blog, a Manospherian blog that’s previously defended some of the less savory utterances of assorted MRA and PUA celebrities, has reposted Whisper’s comment in its entirety under the headline “A gold nugget from Reddit,” with no sarcasm intended. I’ll agree that it’s some sort of nugget, but it’s neither gold nor chicken. And again, for those critics who think I mae a big deal of comments, well, this is a comment that MRAs and Manospherians are making a big deal of themselves.
Just to be clear for anyone who doesn’t click through (as I almost didn’t), Sunil Tripathi’s death almost certainly didn’t have anything to do with Reddit’s witch hunt. They haven’t said when he died (that I’ve seen), but he went missing in mid-March and had been seriously depressed. The article says all that, I just want to specify it in thread for accuracy, because I almost didn’t click the link and initially assumed the student they were referring to was the young Saudi man who got a lot of attention for the “crime” of being Saudi and near a terrorist attack.
It’s still terrible though. Tripathi’s family was harassed (including receiving threats and other horribleness) because of the witch hunt. And of course the only “evidence” linking Tripathi to the bombings was the fact that he was missing, not white/American,* and sort-of almost resembled one of the Tsarnaevs if you squinted at the already blurry photo that the FBI released. It was such a horrible thing to do to a family suffering own tragedy.
I mean seriously, who hears, “Student went missing a month ago in Rhode Island, was reported to be depressed and left behind what was probably a suicide note,” and thinks, “A-ha! That man must have carried out the bombings!” Well, except racists apparently.
*Despite following the story fairly closely I don’t know how Tripathi identified or whether he was American, as it seemed rather irrelevant. The people who fingered him as a suspect and who harassed his family did not consider him American or white from what I have seen, so that’s why I wrote it that way.
SO CUTE
although this one comes close
And also yes to Dorothy L. Sayers. π I love mysteries and she is amazing, and yes quite feminist friendly!
Teh Poe Menz Law, I like it.
Those little piggies wearing people clothes are so cute, I can’t take it. It’s cuteness overload.
When I am made benevolent dictator of the universe, all pigs shall be issued red rain boots and adorable sweaters.
Notice the little grippy dots on the socks.
I saw this post headline this morning, but didn’t have time to read it until now. The “throwing a tantrum for a pony” part made me think people were throwing tantrums to try to get something from ponies.
please add freenortherner and returnofking to boob roll list.
Re: Sayers, I have them all on audiobook as well as in book form (including Sayers Biography).
Ian Carmichael as Peter is wonderful.
They did most of them in the seventies as dramatisations, and Ian Carmichael also read them all for audiobook. They have survived very well and can all be bought on iTunes. (Lots of that old fashioned feudal spirit though.)
Although I love ‘The Nine Taylor’s’ I have it unabridged on audio with Ian Carmichael and I’m afraid the campanology section ALWAYS sends me to sleep, It’s not that it’s not interesting, but all that ding dong ding donging, combined with Carmichaels soothing voice is soporific in the extreme. π
I wish I had a people-sized yellow rain jacket like pig #2. (My shallow, superficial and jealous femalehood and feminismity is pushing me to stab to acquire glorious fashion items from pigs)
I read his comments but all I got from it was “ALL THESE GROUPS THAT ARE FIGHTING TO BE RECOGNIZED AS FULL HUMAN BEINGS SHOULD JUST MAKE THEIR OWN SOCIETIES INSTEAD BECAUSE THAT’S TOTALLY A THING THAT PEOPLE CAN JUST DO.”
L: The Attenbury Emeralds was the first (1921) Whose Body was five years later. (Why yes, I am a book geek. Comes of 1: having a head for trivia, and 2: having a family which has been in the used book business for more than 30 years. I started selling them… good God, 33 years ago. I was but a sprout back then).
Is it just me, or do the torn off sleeves and the sockies make it look as if this little squeaker is tuckered out from Flashdancing?
And, double checking, my head for trivia was wrong twice. Attenbury was a posthumous book; written by someone else; based on references Sayers made in several of the books.
Mea Culpa. You are right, the first canonic novel is Whose Body, and I am sorry.
Ah, but The Attenbury Emeralds does 1921 in flashback from post WW2 so should probably not be read first.
Sorry but Edward Petherbridge and Harriet Walters – the definitive Lord Peter Wimsey & Harriet Vane. And that’s real.
Oops, ninja’d by Pecunium.
Jill Paton Walsh finished A Presumption of Death, postumously, for the Sayers estate and then wrote “Thrones, Dominations” and The Attenbury Emeralds based on DLS’s notes and articles.
Lovely, lovely piggy π
@gillyrosebee, oh you DID NOT just mention Flashdance π
Video, video, video π
Wombat:
That video reminds me of one of my favorite webcomics: Digger, by Ursula Vernon.
Mostly because it stars a wombat. She’s not all that interested in getting scratched, but if you could point her in the right direction to get home that would be great.
(If you want to read it from the start: http://diggercomic.com/?p=3)
It’s been awhile since I read Sayers so I decided to do a quick Amazon search to see if her works were in the public domain and available there. They’re not, but speaking of awesome old-school women mystery writers, there are a couple of free books by Agatha Christie, Mary Roberts Rinehart and others available. I just downloaded and started “That Affair Next Door” by Anna Katherine Green. It appears short (I’m about a quarter of the way in since my last post) but it’s quite entertaining so far, with a funny and clever female protagonist/narrator. Since we’re doing mystery novel recommendations and all, I figured I’d mention it for anyone who likes ebooks. π
(I always look for public domain books as I spend a ridiculous amount of money on books and so I set myself a firm budget–I hit my April limit around the 5th LOL)
@AK thank you, much appreciated π
If you like the message that true love doesn’t take no for an answer, I guess.
Bully for them, it works out, she was only flirting, and they have a perfect wedding and honeymoon until someone knocks over the port. It LOOKS like stalking and harassment, and it bugs me. Otherwise I love the books, in general. Wimsey’s like a sagacious Wooster with a work ethic, and sometimes that grates on my middle-class Yankee sensibilities.
I started with the omnibus collection of short stories, Lord Peter. My edition includes a parody of Gaudy Night as the last story, and the next-to-last has a casual discussion of corporal punishment and a Straw Liberal.
Haven’t caught up with the whole thread yet, but freemage, yes yes yes to Dorothy Sayers! I love the series, particularly the culmination of Peter and Harriet’s love story in Gaudy Night and Busman’s Honeymoon.