UPDATE: Elam has retracted his original story. See the end of this post for more details.
Men’s Rights Activists often insist that false accusations of rape are literally as bad as rape itself, and that false accusers of rape should spend as much time in prison as actual rapists.
Presumably they feel the same way about false accusers of other crimes, from murder to check kiting.
So in the wake of Paul Elam’s reckless false accusations against recent Georgetown graduate Arianna Pattek, one would expect other MRAs to rise up en masse to demand that Elam turn himself in.
Elam, you may recall, accused Pattek of serious violations of civil rights laws, claiming that she, as an employee of Georgetown’s admissions office, showed clear bias against white men. Indeed, Elam didn’t even qualify his accusations with an “alleged,” as journalists routinely do when writing about those accused but not convicted of crimes. Here’s what he wrote about her:
Pattek, who clearly has issues with sexual and racial bigotry, decided she would not only trash the applications of white males on sight, she also decided to blog about her activities under what she assumed was anonymous conditions. Writing for a web blog called The Feminist Conservative, Pattek laid out precisely what she was doing in very clear terms. …
Clearly this is a person not only warped by ideology, but who also holds deep seated prejudices that guided her unscrupulous actions. Her targets were selected by sex, race, political beliefs and perhaps even religion. Her identity was traced after she referenced the subject of her master’s thesis at Georgetown in some of her writing, including the “about” page at the Feminist Conservative.
The trouble is that absolutely none of this is true. There’s nothing linking Pattek to the blog, which seems to be a hoax, and numerous things suggesting that she is NOT the author of the blog any more than Paul Elam is.
As Georgetown has made clear, Pattek never worked for the school’s admissions office. She never wrote a Master’s thesis; she graduated from Georgetown in 2012 with a bachelors degree, not a masters (as Elam claims) or a doctorate (as the FeministConservative blogger claimed about herself, if she is even a she). Pattek’s thesis was a Senior thesis required for her minor in Justice and Peace, which a program for undergraduates. The topic(s) of her senior thesis only bear a slight resemblance to the topic(s) of the alleged doctoral thesis of the FeministConservative blogger. Even a quick perusal of the “evidence” posted on A Voice for Men will reveal numerous other discrepancies.
Indeed, the falsity and recklessness of Elam’s charges against Pattek are so patently obvious that even some MRAs have begun to doubt. On the Men’s Rights subreddit, for example, the mods have added “May be fake” to the title of the thread discussing the feministconservative blog controversy.
In the comments, someone called isktamin offers this take:
I’ve been on another forum with a couple other people, and this is absolutely a fake. [Pattek’s] thesis states that she is of Jewish descent and identifies wholly as Jewish, while the blog states that she is Christian and not of Jewish descent.
Pattek seems to be a pretty good person. Someone’s been deleting all traces of her from the GU website, likely another student. Google archives are telling us that she has multiple awards, she helped children in need in Kenya. Her thesis is of pretty good quality, too. The blog is of shit quality without effort to spell things correctly. It’s quite the blatant online defamation campaign, and I haven’t the slightest idea why.
Incidentally, he’s right about the difference in religion, the awards, the work Pattek did in Kenya, the difference in quality between the blog and Pattek’s thesis. He’s wrong about who deleted the information: as we learned yesterday, it was the current director of the Justice and Peace program, in response to harassment from white supremacists.
Meanwhile, alt right Manosphere blogger Chuck Ross of Gucci Little Piggy has also cast serious doubt on Elam’s accusations.
Even on A Voice for Men a few Men’s Rights Activists have challenged Elam’s case, most notably Chris Deslone, the founder of the Men’s Rights subreddit and a contributor to AVFM.
So where is the upswelling of outrage amongst MRAs at Elam’s false accusations? Where are the calls for him to be charged with crimes as serious as the civil rights violations he has accused Pattek of? Where are the calls for him to turn himself in – or at the very least, to apologize for his misdeeds and step down from his position at A Voice for Men?
I haven’t seen any.
For MRAs, sorry seems to be the hardest word.
You might expect Pierce Harlan of the so-called Community of the Wrongly Accused to have some sympathy for the wrongly accused Pattek. But he’s said nothing on his site (or anywhere else, as far as I know) about Elam’s false and reckless accusations, and Elam is still listed in the Community of the Wrongly Accused sidebar as a “False rape activist,” whatever that is.
Over on the Men’s Rights subreddit, meanwhile, the mods actually deleted a post asking “So, when does the woman you guys falsely accused get an apology?” (You can still find it here, but you can no longer reach it from the Men’s Rights subreddit itself.) The comments, naturally, are full of denial, and many have been deleted, making for a surreal discussion indeed. “I don’t recall having falsely accused anyone of anything,” real-boethius wrote indignantly. “Even AVFM had the story up as “Georgetown University Coverup?” – note the question mark, and they state that the evidence is inconclusive.”
Uh, Did. You. Actually. Read. Elam’s. Post?
Elam, for his part, after adamantly attacking all those who challenged his accusations in any way, may now realize that he’s made a huge mistake. He hasn’t admitted this, of course, but he has awkwardly appended to his post some of the information gathered by Chris Deslone that clearly shows that his accusations are completely bogus. So now we have the strange spectacle of a post that accuses Pattek of various civil rights violations, without even an “allegedly” to qualify the accusations, which ends with links to official statements from Georgetown that undercut everything Elam has said:
Here, here and here are the Twitter links in that screenshot.
All of this is surreal enough, but perhaps the most surreal response to the whole thing comes from the Reno, Nevada MRA known as Scarecrow, a former-but-now-banned Man Boobz commenter, in a comment on Reddit:
Apparently nothing is ever the fault of MRAs ever, including the things they do.
UPDATE: Elam has now retracted his original story naming Pattek as a civil rights violator. Here are the key bits of his retraction:
In hindsight it is apparent that I was too fast on the trigger in establishing a connection between the blogger who claimed to have sabotaged the applications and that of a former student at Georgetown. While there is circumstantial evidence that does connect the two, and many unanswered questions, there is nothing that makes that connection a verifiable certainty.
It was a mistake on my part for which I apologize to the woman in question, and to any readers who felt they were misled. The original article naming her has been updated with a link to this retraction and her name has been redacted from the article. I am also removing all comments to the article and closing them to make sure no references to her are made.
I think this somewhat mealymouthed mea culpa is about as close to an admission of wrongdoing as we’re ever likely to get from Elam on anything.
Elam continues to cast vague aspersions on Georgetown itself, however:
I also want to make it clear that this retraction does not mean that AVFM is abandoning its investigation into the validity of the claims made about trashing university applications based on sex and race. Additionally, we are not done with concerns about the university itself, whose unusual and somewhat cryptic manner of responding to this story leaves more questions than answers.
Actually, I think Georgetown was fairly direct in responding to most of the questions on its official Twitter account. Elam also brings up his conspiracy theory, saying that
we did not take an interest in it until it became apparent that Georgetown University was moving, without explanation, to remove all references to her from their websites.
In fact, the director of the Justice and Peace program at Georgetown, Mark Lance, provided an explanation of this to my readers yesterday, as I pointed out in this post. But I’ll recap: according to Lance, the past director of the Justice and Peace program took her information down in response to harassment from white supremacists. There’s nothing particularly mysterious about that.
I’m honestly surprised to see Elam admit to being wrong about anything. I suspect — though I have no proof, and this is simply speculation — that he may have spoken to a lawyer — either his own, or someone else’s.
I was apologizing for the craptastic video that has massive logical fails and rather inane commentary on something the videomaker clearly does not understand.
ophelia, I remember when that story first broke (the guy selling the fake bomb detectors). It’s so horrible. I’m glad to hear he’s been convicted, so thanks for linking that.
@Cloudiah
Me too XD
I was just slightly uncomfortable with the phrasing of potty mouth b/c it’s often used for children, and women get called potty mouths more often than men b/c a) we’re expected to keep cleaner language, and b) we’re often infantilised more. (and in this case ttf was referring to a woman)
IDK if i’m over reacting. I was just uncomfy.
I swear pretty often here and I don’t think anyone gives a shit. So no worries.
So relieved, thought everyone must hate me, still really new and nervous. Also, like I said, crappy day.
opheliamonarch, embedding’s fine – we can’t embed pics (trolls have put up nasty stuff) but videos will. Think of all the kitty/puppy/cute animals generallly videos we’d miss if we couldn’t embed. 🙂
AK – “You know, what always gets me about the guys who throw a fit about classes teaching men how not to rape is that it makes me automatically assume that they’re rapists. ”
Seconding this, and your whole comment. Men who react that way get the distinct side-eye from me.
Totally OT, I bought the best and most outrageously expensive bra the other day, and I love it. So does Sir. 😉
The Steubenville football coach, the one the convicted rapists said had their back and would help them cover it up, the one who had a legal duty to report a crime once he was made aware of it but didn’t, remember that guy? Just had his coaching contracted extended another 2 years.
So a big “fuck you” to the parties responsible for that.
I think it’s fear.
If “not raping” is a skill you can teach someone, it implies that “raping” is in part lack of skill in navigating situations where it might occur. It implies responsibility for ones behaviour and an awareness of the signals, thoughts, moods and consent of others.
It opens up the can of worms wherein people have to admit that rape, when it happens, sometimes happens between two people who know each other very well and because of a situation that is escalating and stupid.
It’s much, much easier to think that “rape” is one large guy in a hoodie in a dark street slamming someone over the head with a club, getting off and leaving.
Because that’s not you or me or the people we know, and it’s a concrete, measurable thing that’s easy to conceptualize of. Instead, if rape is a matter of consent and communication, that means you, reading this, might be a rapist! It’s possible! Things happen and bad actions are taken, and the regrets last a long time, and here’s a guide on how to avoid it – but… being willing to face that implies that the people involved can look at things and not assume it refers to them, specifically.
But everything women do is really about men to MRA’s, so of course, teaching people not to rape is misandry.
Of course.
… [Shake head, drink gin]
… “…. It implies responsibility for ones behaviour and an awareness of signals, thoughts, moods and the consent of others” obviously refers to the idea that the person ABOUT TO RAPE should heed consent. rethink.
Nothing so archiac as “Oh, so people should stop wearing short skirts!”. If you’re a person, and you use that as a drop of point to start blaming the victims of rape… Just stop. Please.
Same for “… between two people…”.
Man that was really an unfortunate turn of phrase when I looked it over.
Sigh. Communication.
@Quackers
QFT. ::wants to staple everywhere::
@cloudiah
Seconded. (or whatever it is by the time I post this 😉 )
Even is she doesn’t have a chance at winning monetary damages, does she at least have legal standing to have all of the rest of the sites lying about her remove all of the accusations against her? I don’t know how to describe what I’m saying, but it’d be like a cease and desist order to get them to stop spreading those lies about her.
And having people attend a class about rape is not accusing anyone of being a rapist. It’s more like sexual harassment training or racial sensitivity training at a job. Nobody is being accused of anything. They’re just learning about how they can help create an inclusive environment, or at the very least not break the law. For the rape class, it would help people understand consent, boundaries, and respect for other peoples’ bodily autonomy.
At the hospital where I gave birth, all new parents had to watch an instructional video on shaken baby syndrome. I wasn’t offended at all about having to watch it. I’m glad they are getting the word out about protecting newborn babies.
And in case anyone didn’t know this, the reason women commit more child abuse is because women spend more time taking care of children. The MRA’s stats on this issue overlook the variable of time spent caring for children in order to have a gotcha against women. Taking away that variable is like saying, “Children are more likely to be hurt in a house than at a zoo. Therefore it is safer to live in a zoo than a house” or “It is more likely for children to be kidnapped by parents than by strangers. Therefore, parents are more dangerous than strangers”.
They are also lumping all types of child abuse together, and equating child neglect, which is most often done by women, and physical abuse that ends in severe injuries and death, which is more likely to be committed by men.
from Child abuse fatalities statistics
@Fibi (is that an okay address? love your name but hate typing it), maybe it’s just because I “know” you, but I totally read your comment as you intended, although of course the clarification is always good. Just wanted to reassure you a bit. 🙂
And yeah, I agree with you about the motivation of a lot of those guys. I don’t actually think that every single person who complains about those classes/ad campaigns is a literal rapist, but it definitely ups their likelihood of being a rapist in my eyes, and at the very least marks them as rape apologists. It still doesn’t make much sense to me though…I can understand having the knee-jerk reaction of “but I’m not a rapist!”,* but sticking with that in the face of overwhelming evidence that rape is a common crime and that men are overwhelmingly the perpetrators of it just scares me.
@AK: Agreed. One thing I found when I first started to listen to feminists directly was realizing how much of that “men are evil” transmission came directly from the “outer assholosphere” of anti-feminists.
Someone may have already posted this. If not, a word to the trolls from Saruman
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0PFMKhnDorH
Oh, I forgot my asterisk in the last comment. I meant to add that I still have my own knee-jerk privilege reactions when I say something ignorant (which happens less than it used to but still far more than it should)–my first (internal; I know better than to say it) reaction is typically, “But I didn’t mean it that way/am not that way!” so I’m actually really forgiving of those knee-jerks. AS LONG AS instead of clinging desperately to whatever privileged belief it is, the person takes a deep breath, apologizes and then actually realizes that the people who are calling them out are probably right and intent isn’t magic, that is.
And just to be doubly clear, I don’t mean to say that it’s a good first reaction to have, just that it’s a hard habit to overcome and that I am forgiving of that. Which I also realize is a function of privilege. And now I think I’m starting to go around in circles so I’ll just hope it all makes sense and I haven’t stuck my foot in my mouth again. 😉
@AK
Made sense to me. 🙂
Bewilderness, didn’t listen to it all the way through, but that recording seems…odd. Got a transcript?
Here’s an awesome quote from Voltairine de Cleyre, an early anarcha-feminist, that I want to share since almost no one talks about her.
Source
@katz
The duckling is a scout to find the MRAs, who don’t see danger coming. Then cat-shark on an automatic sweeper corners the MRA, who then realizes that a rational argument is based on reality and empirical evidence. My plan is infallible.
On this:
“[–]typhonblue
[-1] 20 points 12 hours ago (24|4)
If you’re a gay guy worried about being raped they can justify that with their special privilege decoder rings.
But they can’t justify a straight guy’s fear of gay male sexuality.
The idea is to play one of their prejudices against the other to induce a state of cognitive dissonance so powerful it jump starts something resembling critical thought.”
I thought avfm was trying to attract more gay guys. I guess they just can’t help the homophobia. (seriously, not wanting to be raped is equivalent to shunning someone for their sexual orientation? Wtf.)
I guess in mraland now, fearing rape or wanting to reduce rape now means shunning men for their sexuality. It might be that my life is full of special, unmanly men, but I don’t see their sexuality has having a strong “rape” component. (Maybe they’re manginas?)
Back on topic, did you guys read the comments of Elam’s notpology? They can be reduced in three parts:
The “what a hero with integrity! Bastions of feminism like CNN would never have as much honesty as Paul. He really had to investigate hard to find out he was wrong!”;
the “I understand Paulie had to retract, but we all know that it *really* happened that way, and that it’s Pattek, it’s just that the feminist Jewish bankers are backing her. There’s no smoke without fire. She’s guilty!”
and then, always from people who’ve been ganging up on Ms. Pattek with outrage since it came out: “I knew it! It just sounded wrong from the beginning” (with the alternative “feminists planted this to discredit MRAs” that David mentioned)
Or “how to fit anything to your ideology 101”.
Seriously though, for the MRAs who still believe that feministconservative is a real blog from a real person who really think like that, I just would be so interested in meeting any feminist who think along those lines. Never have yet.
@Aaliyah, thanks for posting that. Voltairine was an awesome lady and that is a great quote that is sadly still so relevant today.
re: the typhonblue quote, I don’t understand what she’s trying to say (I believe she’s previously identified as a “she;” apologies if I’m wrong). I can deal with straight men who are afraid of gay sexuality quite easily: they’re irrational homophobes. And I can understand any man’s fear of rape, particularly in certain situations; for example, in institutional settings like prison, straight men are often raped (usually by other straight men). Or is she trying to say that any man who rapes another man is gay and so she’s suggesting playing the understanding of gay men’s fear of rape against straight men being afraid of gay men raping them? Because that’s blatantly false, as anyone who actually cared about things like prison rape would know. Virtually all male rapists in prison or other institutional settings (such as male-on-male sexual assaults in the military or in fraternity hazings) are straight. I suspect the same holds true for male rapists who attack men in other situations as well, I just don’t have the stats on it. But you know, it goes back to that whole “rape is about power not sex” thing.
I think the idea is that a gay man, who is worried about being raped, is “one of the feminist special snowflakes”, so he gets a pass on being a member of the class, “all men are rapists”. The larger idea, that “feminists” are walking bundles of cognitive dissonance, just waiting for the right pearl of koanic wisdom to make the scales fall from their eyes, and show them the misandry which suffuses the world is not unique to typhonblue; nor is the idea limited to the MRM.
White supremicists (and other types of racist) think the same way. The, “Truth” is so obvious to them that only a willful blindness can explain people who don’t accept it.
I don’t think that of the MRM. I think they want a world so different from the one I want (or the one in which we both live) that they are unlikely to be persuaded by reason. I argue with them because 1: It’s fun. 2: There are those who are not MRM, but who might confuse the jargon/passion of their arguments with being factual.
That, and they have a type of stupidity which deserves mockery.
Oh, I missed the “special snowflake” aspect. That makes sense (well, in context).
Most definitely. I was one of them. I sincerely believed, especially in my childhood, that all women were greedy assholes who want to steal kids from their husbands through custody battles and falsely accuse innocent men of “bad things.” (I only had a vague idea of what rape, abuse, etc. were until the age of 12.) I even learned the word “misandry” and “feminazi” before “misogyny” and “feminism.”
As a ten-year-old kid, I believed all of this even though, with my own eyes, I witnessed my own mom being abused by my dad and threatened with violence against her and me and my siblings during the height of the marital conflict between my parents. And sadly, there are probably plenty of other kids who went through the same stuff yet still firmly believe that all women are evil in the ways I believed. I mean, for the longest time I believed that my mom only got a restraining order because she was selfish. Only recently have I discovered that she only got it because my father threatened to hunt her down the night before she got the restraining order.
Yet another reason I detest the MRM.
I think odd is putting it mildly.