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Why haven’t Men’s Rights Activists turned on Paul Elam for falsely accusing Arianna Pattek of civil rights violations? [UPDATE: Elam retraction]

Graphic from SAVE Services, whose press releases are regularly run on A Voice for Men. Why doesn't this apply to Paul Elam?
Graphic from SAVE Services, whose press releases regularly run on A Voice for Men. Why doesn’t this policy apply to Paul Elam?

UPDATE: Elam has retracted his original story. See the end of this post for more details.

Men’s Rights Activists often insist that false accusations of rape are literally as bad as rape itself, and that false accusers of rape should spend as much time in prison as actual rapists.

Presumably they feel the same way about false accusers of other crimes, from murder to check kiting.

So in the wake of Paul Elam’s reckless false accusations against recent Georgetown graduate Arianna Pattek, one would expect other MRAs to rise up en masse to demand that Elam turn himself in.

Elam, you may recall, accused Pattek of serious violations of civil rights laws, claiming that she, as an employee of Georgetown’s admissions office, showed clear bias against white men. Indeed, Elam didn’t even qualify his accusations with an “alleged,” as journalists routinely do when writing about those accused but not convicted of crimes. Here’s what he wrote about her:

Pattek, who clearly has issues with sexual and racial bigotry, decided she would not only trash the applications of white males on sight, she also decided to blog about her activities under what she assumed was anonymous conditions. Writing for a web blog called The Feminist Conservative, Pattek laid out precisely what she was doing in very clear terms. …

Clearly this is a person not only warped by ideology, but who also holds deep seated prejudices that guided her unscrupulous actions. Her targets were selected by sex, race, political beliefs and perhaps even religion. Her identity was traced after she referenced the subject of her master’s thesis at Georgetown in some of her writing, including the “about” page at the Feminist Conservative.

The trouble is that absolutely none of this is true. There’s nothing linking Pattek to the blog, which seems to be a hoax, and numerous things suggesting that she is NOT the author of the blog any more than Paul Elam is.

As Georgetown has made clear, Pattek never worked for the school’s admissions office. She never wrote a Master’s thesis; she graduated from Georgetown in 2012 with a bachelors degree, not a masters (as Elam claims) or a doctorate (as the FeministConservative blogger claimed about herself, if she is even a she). Pattek’s thesis was a Senior thesis required for her minor in Justice and Peace, which a program for undergraduates. The topic(s) of her senior thesis only bear a slight resemblance to the topic(s) of the alleged doctoral thesis of the FeministConservative blogger. Even a quick perusal of the “evidence” posted on A Voice for Men will reveal numerous other discrepancies.

Indeed, the falsity and recklessness of Elam’s charges against Pattek are so patently obvious that even some MRAs have begun to doubt. On the Men’s Rights subreddit, for example, the mods have added “May be fake” to the title of the thread discussing the feministconservative blog controversy.

In the comments, someone called isktamin offers this take:

I’ve been on another forum with a couple other people, and this is absolutely a fake. [Pattek’s] thesis states that she is of Jewish descent and identifies wholly as Jewish, while the blog states that she is Christian and not of Jewish descent.

Pattek seems to be a pretty good person. Someone’s been deleting all traces of her from the GU website, likely another student. Google archives are telling us that she has multiple awards, she helped children in need in Kenya. Her thesis is of pretty good quality, too. The blog is of shit quality without effort to spell things correctly. It’s quite the blatant online defamation campaign, and I haven’t the slightest idea why.

Incidentally, he’s right about the difference in religion, the awards, the work Pattek did in Kenya, the difference in quality between the blog and Pattek’s thesis. He’s wrong about who deleted the information: as we learned yesterday, it was the current director of the Justice and Peace program, in response to harassment from white supremacists.

Meanwhile, alt right Manosphere blogger Chuck Ross of Gucci Little Piggy has also cast serious doubt on Elam’s accusations.

Even on A Voice for Men a few Men’s Rights Activists have challenged Elam’s case, most notably Chris Deslone, the founder of the Men’s Rights subreddit and a contributor to AVFM.

So where is the upswelling of outrage amongst MRAs at Elam’s false accusations? Where are the calls for him to be charged with crimes as serious as the civil rights violations he has accused Pattek of? Where are the calls for him to turn himself in – or at the very least, to apologize for his misdeeds and step down from his position at A Voice for Men?

I haven’t seen any.

For MRAs, sorry seems to be the hardest word.

You might expect Pierce Harlan of the so-called Community of the Wrongly Accused to have some sympathy for the wrongly accused Pattek. But he’s said nothing on his site (or anywhere else, as far as I know) about Elam’s false and reckless accusations, and Elam is still listed in the Community of the Wrongly Accused sidebar as a “False rape activist,” whatever that is.

Over on the Men’s Rights subreddit, meanwhile, the mods actually deleted a post asking “So, when does the woman you guys falsely accused get an apology?” (You can still find it here, but you can no longer reach it from the Men’s Rights subreddit itself.) The comments, naturally, are full of denial, and many have been deleted, making for a surreal discussion indeed. “I don’t recall having falsely accused anyone of anything,” real-boethius wrote indignantly. “Even AVFM had the story up as “Georgetown University Coverup?” – note the question mark, and they state that the evidence is inconclusive.”

Uh, Did. You. Actually. Read. Elam’s. Post?

Elam, for his part, after adamantly attacking all those who challenged his accusations in any way, may now realize that he’s made a huge mistake. He hasn’t admitted this, of course, but he has awkwardly appended to his post some of the information gathered by Chris Deslone that clearly shows that his accusations are completely bogus. So now we have the strange spectacle of a post that accuses Pattek of various civil rights violations, without even an “allegedly” to qualify the accusations, which ends with links to official statements from Georgetown that undercut everything Elam has said:

chris

Here, here and here are the Twitter links in that screenshot.

All of this is surreal enough, but perhaps the most surreal response to the whole thing comes from the Reno, Nevada MRA known as Scarecrow, a former-but-now-banned Man Boobz commenter, in a comment on Reddit:

scare

Apparently nothing is ever the fault of MRAs ever, including the things they do.

UPDATE: Elam has now retracted his original story naming Pattek as a civil rights violator. Here are the key bits of his retraction:

In hindsight it is apparent that I was too fast on the trigger in establishing a connection between the blogger who claimed to have sabotaged the applications and that of a former student at Georgetown. While there is circumstantial evidence that does connect the two, and many unanswered questions, there is nothing that makes that connection a verifiable certainty.

It was a mistake on my part for which I apologize to the woman in question, and to any readers who felt they were misled. The original article naming her has been updated with a link to this retraction and her name has been redacted from the article. I am also removing all comments to the article and closing them to make sure no references to her are made.

I think this somewhat mealymouthed mea culpa is about as close to an admission of wrongdoing as we’re ever likely to get from Elam on anything.

Elam continues to cast vague aspersions on Georgetown itself, however:

I also want to make it clear that this retraction does not mean that AVFM is abandoning its investigation into the validity of the claims made about trashing university applications based on sex and race. Additionally, we are not done with concerns about the university itself, whose unusual and somewhat cryptic manner of responding to this story leaves more questions than answers.

Actually, I think Georgetown was fairly direct in responding to most of the questions on its official Twitter account. Elam also brings up his conspiracy theory, saying that

we did not take an interest in it until it became apparent that Georgetown University was moving, without explanation, to remove all references to her from their websites.

In fact, the director of the Justice and Peace program at Georgetown, Mark Lance, provided an explanation of this to my readers yesterday, as I pointed out in this post. But I’ll recap: according to Lance, the past director of the Justice and Peace program took her information down in response to harassment from white supremacists. There’s nothing particularly mysterious about that.

I’m honestly surprised to see Elam admit to being wrong about anything. I suspect — though I have no proof, and this is simply speculation — that he may have spoken to a lawyer — either his own, or someone else’s.

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pecunium
11 years ago

Or this one:

[–]minylik
3 points 1 hour ago (9|6)

Instead of removing the talk, you should just emphasize how silly feminists are by adding “Teaching women not to abuse children” to the talk. And when women complain, just tell them that the majority of women abuse children, so you’re just doing your job.

Tell them next week you’ll be covering “teaching black guys not to join gangs” followed by “teaching mexicans how to get a job” and finally finishing up with “teaching asian women how to drive.”

Nope, no racism in the MRM.

timetravellingfool
11 years ago

Come to think of it, the title ‘Teaching men not to rape, the cognitive effects of sexual arousal’ sounds like it leans a bit towards rape apologism (I was wondering if apologism was a word, and spell check doesn’t believe it is, but I think spell check is dumb and I am selling my new word to websters).

cloudiah
11 years ago

Yeah, I am side-eyeing the topic of the talk itself, at least as its described.

bahumbugi, are you going to email them? If you want, you can send me a link to the person’s email address and I can do it tomorrow. You can find my contact info on my blog, which is linked to my gravatar.

AK
AK
11 years ago

That poster does seem really weird. I hope it is that whoever wrote the summary didn’t word it well and that’s not actually the views of the teacher, because it does seem to say that simple arousal leads to rape. A class on consent and avoiding pushing past someone’s sexual boundaries is absolutely a good idea (and as someone else noted, is one of the few things that has actually been shown to reduce rape), but that wording really squicks me out.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

TTF’s right–hat subject is veering way too close to “they just can’t help it when all the blood flows to the little head” type of apologia.

timetravellingfool
11 years ago

Apparently the dude’s describing the cognitive process that turns friends into rapists. I wonder if it’s similar in any way to being exposed to gamma radiation. Well, I guess I can take off my Outrage hat.

timetravellingfool
11 years ago

(If anyone wants to buy me a real outrage hat, you can get me this one:
http://geekmom.com/2013/04/thinkgeek-jaynes-hat-firefly-serenity/ )

sidestinkappleeye
11 years ago

“Instead of removing the talk, you should just emphasize how silly feminists are by adding “Teaching women not to abuse children”

I recall a campaign to teach not to shake babies. I do not recall a feminist protest to the advertising for this that included women.

Aaliyah
11 years ago

Instead of removing the talk, you should just emphasize how silly feminists are by adding “Teaching women not to abuse children” to the talk. And when women complain, just tell them that the majority of women abuse children, so you’re just doing your job.

Tell them next week you’ll be covering “teaching black guys not to join gangs” followed by “teaching mexicans how to get a job” and finally finishing up with “teaching asian women how to drive.”

Most feminists say “Teach men to not rape” because the majority of rapists are male, not because the majority of men are rapists. It doesn’t even mean that all men and boys need to be taught how to not rape; it just means that the influence of patriarchal masculinity should be reversed whenever it needs to be. Obviously men and boys who already fully respect the autonomy of others don’t need to be told to not rape.

But sadly, I don’t think the average MRA would care about such a distinction. In fact, some MRA who is reading this is likely to interpret this comment as “I think men should be taught to not rape because they’re beasts who need guidance.”

pecunium
11 years ago

And typhonblue is saying Georgetown is wrong for how it “dealt with the controversy”.

It’s a pretty serious allegation and Georgetown U’s behaviour is suspicious.

Aaliyah
11 years ago

I should add that I prefer to just say that all people need to be taught about consent and boundaries. I’m just saying that the imperative “Teach men not to rape” isn’t misandric at all.

princessbonbon
11 years ago

I really should not play with trolls on Youtube.

timetravellingfool
11 years ago

I once had a two day throw down with gww on youtube. My but does she have a potty mouth on her.

timetravellingfool
11 years ago

Also, where are you trolling? Want some back-up? I’m bored.

Fade
11 years ago

^^What’s potty mouth mean in this case? Because frankly, I don’t care if people curse (in general), I care if a) they’re trying to do it in a vicious way* and b) if they’re using slurs or trying to denigrate a group.

*As in “what the fuck?” to express disbelief versus “you fucking shithead” or w/e to try to insult someone

AK
AK
11 years ago

You know, what always gets me about the guys who throw a fit about classes teaching men how not to rape is that it makes me automatically assume that they’re rapists. I don’t at all think all men are rapists. I know many wonderful men who would never rape a woman. I have also known young men who would never intentionally rape a woman but might need some education on what enthusiastic consent is because they’ve picked up a lot of harmful ideas about sex from the culture we live in. The thing is, none of these good men I know would be upset about a class or advertising campaign that attempts to teach men about rape and consent.

So when a guy starts whining about how teaching consent is misandry, methinks he doth protest too much. Like, okay, you know not to rape. Good for you! Maybe this class will teach you some tricks for confirming enthusiastic consent without breaking the mood, or will help you talk to other men who don’t get it, or at the very least will let you pat yourself on the back for not being a terrible person! At the very worst it doesn’t teach you anything new and it’s a waste of time to get the credit (assuming it is required), like a ton of other classes you will have to take throughout high school and college. And if it’s not required, it doesn’t cost you anything! You don’t have to go if you get it, but it might help some other dude!

So really, they start complaining and all I can think is that talking about enthusiastic consent and changing social norms removes a rapist’s social license to operate, and the only people who want that are the people benefiting from it.

timetravellingfool
11 years ago

Called me a see you next tuesday, right in front of the kids. I wouldn’t have thought much of it if she hadn’t made a big production of it- you know in the vagina monologues where they try to get the audience to chant the word punt with a c? I think she was having the dark-side version of that kind of release. Anyway, I am antagonistic in my manner, I know I am, so it’s not the first time someone has made a date to see me next tuesday. Likely it won’t be the last.

princessbonbon
11 years ago

Also, where are you trolling? Want some back-up? I’m bored.

This “rebuttal” to Ms Sarkeesian’s video series on video games. This person called the Egotistical Ripoff was entertainingly chew toyable but I am now bored so feel free to join in the whomping I gave him.

http://youtu.be/la9i2np0WTU

opheliamonarch
11 years ago

I know it’s obvious, but reading about these MRA ‘people’ urgh, Bleurgh.

Some days I really have trouble getting my hippie groove on. Wish my Jiminy Cricket would STFU and let me pretend the world was lovely and that not reading the news was okay.

Sorry, O.T a bit, but Elam, Bleurgh, and then I read the Guardian and see this.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/apr/23/somerset-business-guilty-fake-bombs

I mean what happens to make people this, just this…..poo!?
Bum, poo, wee, wanky, shit, bollocksing arse, argh…

@princessbonbon, I’m with you if you want to kick some Troll arse, I ain’t no Buddhist today!

princessbonbon
11 years ago

Oh crap, I forgot it embeds, sorry everyone!

timetravellingfool
11 years ago

Gasp!! I love Sarkeesian!!! Aww hell no!!!

opheliamonarch
11 years ago

Sorry hadn’t read the bit about the potty mouth, hope I didn’t offend 🙂

opheliamonarch
11 years ago

So sorry, didn’t know embedding was a problem, won’t do it again 🙁
Wow, I’m having a naff day.

timetravellingfool
11 years ago

Ophelia, I am shocked, simply shocked to hear such language from you. For shame!

cloudiah
11 years ago

Both swearing and embedding are perfectly fine. In my opinion. (I am a potty mouth on occasion.)

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