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A Voice for Men attacks a male activist — with a rape joke reference

John Hembling (John The Other) has rape on the brain.
John Hembling (John The Other) evidently has rape on the brain.

In an apparent attempt to prove that they’re not misogynists, the folks at A Voice for Men have decided to take a temporary break from their practice of vilifying individual female activists to vilify a male activist – University of Toronto Student Union VP for University Affairs Munib Sajjad.

As far as I can tell, the folks at A Voice for Men decided to target Sajjad, perversely, because he told Toronto’s CityNews that he was afraid he was “going to be targeted” after announcing publicly that he thought a campus Men’s Rights group should be banned. The A Voice for Men post about Sajjad is a typically long-winded, and largely content-free, rant from the excitable John Hembling (“John The Other”).

But what’s more disturbing than Hembling’s empty bloviating on Sajjad is the way A Voice for Men has framed the attack. “Munib Sajjad, it’s your turn in the barrel,” the headline declares, and Hembling repeats the phrase “your turn in the barrel” in the post itself.

I wasn’t familiar with this phrase, so I looked it up, and found that it derives from a rape joke. Here’s the definition of the term, from Urban Dictionary:

To say someone is “in the barrel” or “taking a turn in the barrel” means it’s their turn to do an unpleasant task or to suffer an unpleasant experience.

Click on the “definition” link above to see the gang rape joke it’s derived from.

Rape jokes aimed at men — even men you don’t like — are certainly a, well, counterintuitive way of showing “compassion for boys and men,” as the A Voice for Men slogan has it.

EDITED TO ADD: Looking again at Hembling’s piece, I realize I hadn’t noticed his, er, argument that the term “mansplaining” — which I find useful from time to time — is somehow equivalent to the incredibly offensive term “[racial slur redacted]splaining,” which Hembling has just made up. (The slur in question starts with an “n.” You can figure it out.) This is ridiculous on its face, not to mention that it’s frankly racist not only to compare the alleged oppressions of men — who are not systematically oppressed — with those of black people — who are — but also to use a racial slur in doing so. Of course this isn’t the first time that A Voice for Men has used the n-word in an attempt to suggest that men, collectively, have it as bad as a historically disadvantaged and still systematically oppressed group.

Rape jokes and racial slurs: A Voice for Men has it all!

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titianblue
titianblue
11 years ago

So who believes it’s coincidence that the first man attacked by AVfM appears to be a man of colour?

*crickets*

Or that it is coincidence that JtO has called him a “a very naughty little doggie”?

AVfM – giving bigotry a bad name …

bookdragonette
bookdragonette
11 years ago

Shiraz: Godliness is following the word of God; as it is stated clearly in the authorized King James Bible,

Whistling into the abyss to ask this of you, I’m sure, but care to tell us where that’s stated?

Buntzums
Buntzums
11 years ago

Johnny boy wrote in his usual 8th grade way: “I don’t like using military metaphors in my writing like “targeted,” as they can imply a violent intention which is inappropriate. But Munib Sajjad was right.” That about sums up what John is about. Over the last week the MRA have attacked a father for minor issues, requesting child services take his kid away and woolybumblebee also put out a video saying rape only happens to ugly women. Apparently the MRM don’t believe in prison rape? or was that a mistake. Jerks. I hope Munib advises the reporters who broke the “story” this.

Viscaria
Viscaria
11 years ago

It’s more of a joke about men getting assigned very crumby circumstances, often lonely, and your “turn in the barrel” is emblematic of how they cooperate to jointly bear the burden, a turn at the “bad duty” that is part of being a man.

So to you, “jointly bearing the burden” means everyone has to put up with being raped to ensure that everyone can have the kind of orgasms they want? And here I would think the better system is nobody gets raped and everyone has to share the “burden” of getting off on their own time in ways that don’t hurt anybody else (which: not that big of a burden actually). But then, I don’t belong to a group which believes that anything short of men being entitled to partnered sex on demand is misandry!!1!

And yes, Minty, it is in fact rape. Being forced to let other people do sexual things to your body is rape.

daintydougal
daintydougal
11 years ago

Sorry to leap in unannounced but the hivemind needs to be aware there’s been a set back in our hating men and ensuring they don’t get help etc. This is a picture of an envelope I received today: first class care for men

First class care for men? But but but but….the feminazi government hates all men and only believes woman deserve help. I just. I just don’t know what to think.

Viscaria
Viscaria
11 years ago

I have some major subject/object confusion going in that last sentence. I meant to say, doing sexual things to someone who is unable to refuse is rape.

Buntzums
Buntzums
11 years ago

@ archaeoholmes: it is to be found on City TV news: http://www.citynews.ca/2013/04/16/the-inside-story-mens-rights-group-causes-controversy-at-u-of-t/

That is where you can see Munib Sajjad and also take note that Dan P. is in the comment section making his rounds as usual.

bahumbugi
bahumbugi
11 years ago

The way JTO moves his lips when he speaks is even more disgusting than the tiny mouth of Donald Trump. Screenshot makes me feel barfy

emilygoddess
emilygoddess
11 years ago

@Malitia I love the color of your catvatar!

@lowquacks I’ve lived all over the northeast and no, we don’t spell it that way here. It is, however, a perfectly logical way to attempt to spell it, if one hasn’t seen the word before.

Fibinachi
Fibinachi
11 years ago

But this is just confusing. “Knowing the mra, they might decide to attack me after this interview”

After which, sure enough, he is targetted – but not by accident, in fact because he mentioned he might be.

Whattheeff? The smart move would have been to link to his statement, wish him the best and then write about the problems of male on male violence, a few words on homocide and some blather about a better tomorrow through dismantling feminism. I mean, that’d be wrong and stupid but imply some sort of political goal, movement and active distance from violence. Instead its: into the rape barrel with you for mentioning it might happen!

This is beyond parody, beyond mockery, this is stupidity, ignorance and malice on such a level it is just absolutely baffling. It really is the movement of: “Oh yeah? I know you are but what am I?”

Karalora
Karalora
11 years ago

“We’re not misogynists! We’ll threaten to rape anyone/i>, male or female, who doesn’t hate women as much as we do!”

Karalora
Karalora
11 years ago

Argh, HTML fail!

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Minty, nice try–really great pretzel logic, I give it an 8–but that IS a rape joke.

You AVfM jagoffs should be ashamed of yourselves.

AK
AK
11 years ago

@titianblue, I thought the same thing as soon as I saw his name. MRAs don’t exactly have a good track record on race.

Malitia
Malitia
11 years ago

@emilygoddess: Thank you!

And for something completely different update on the… ok… my tabby kitten overlords:

http://mahou.imouto.org/board/pic/c1a08db9fc1510cfd57fc234f902ea8f.jpg

cloudiah
11 years ago

Minty apparently doesn’t think men can be raped. What a misandrist.

cloudiah
11 years ago

And how dare you guys call AVfM racist! They totally have a black friend, as well as a gay friend, which is why it is also okay for them to call people f*gs. 0_o

Prester_John
Prester_John
11 years ago

Deuteronomy 22: 28-29::

If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel’s father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath rhumbled her, he may not put her away all his days.

It’s pretty clear that God did not create men and women equal and feminism’s attempts to destroy men under the pretext of equality are doomed to fail. I will pray for you sinners that you will come to accept Jesus Christ in your hearts and be delivered from feminist witchcraft.

freemage
11 years ago

So we got a ‘new’ troll, I see, over the weekend? Speaking as a capital-A Atheist, Prestor John is, frankly, most likely a non-believer; his posts reek of the sort of parody of theistic teachings that you’ll see from time to time in atheist discussions.

emilygoddess
emilygoddess
11 years ago

Almost certainly a poe, but it doesn’t matter. Prester, I don’t know if you legitimately believe what you just posted, or if you think trolling about rape is funny, but either way, you’re a shitty human being and I hope David bans you.

Prester_John
Prester_John
11 years ago

Prestor John is, frankly, most likely a non-believer; his posts reek of the sort of parody of theistic teachings that you’ll see from time to time in atheist discussions.

You are wrong. And I don’t know who this Poe is, nor do I care. But what matters is that there are clearly defined roles for men and women that are mandated by the Lord himself. The feminist movement has its origins in satanism and witchcraft which made a prolific resurgence in the 1960s: A decade of spiritual dearth and floundering.

Falconer
11 years ago

Don’t you have a kingdom in Asia to be running, Prester John?

Prester_John
Prester_John
11 years ago
Falconer
11 years ago

You are wrong. And I don’t know who this Poe is, nor do I care.

Go away, MRAL.

Shiraz
Shiraz
11 years ago

Hmm. Pester just got done watching The Crucible? Or he’s going for the same kind of ick the serial killer in The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo achieved. I dunno.