And so the MRAs have found yet another woman to hate.
Earlier this month, as many of you no doubt know, a Men’s Rights group sponsored a lecture at the University of Toronto. The event drew protesters, and the protesters drew MRAs with video cameras. One of the MRAs filmed a confrontation between a red-haired feminist activist and a number of MRAs who continually interrupted her as she tried to read a brief statement.
Her crime? She wasn’t exactly polite in responding to the interrupters. And so, after video of the confrontation was uploaded to YouTube, and linked to on the Men’s Rights subreddit and elsewhere, she became a virtual punching bag for the angry misogynists of the internet.
A Voice for Men, naturally, led the charge, running an article by Canadian MRA Dan Perrins labeling her “Little red frothing fornication mouth” and commenting on her breasts. The Amazing Atheist weighed in with a video I couldn’t bring myself to even watch.
Since being targeted by angry YouTube misogynists and MRAs, the red-haired activist has received death threats, rape threats and literally hundreds of other hateful and harassing messages. She’s also been “doxxed” — that is, she’s had her personal information plastered all over the internet, including on A Voice for Men’s forum. Ten days after being uploaded to YouTube, the video of her faceoff against the MRAs has garnered more than 300,000 views, and YouTubers are still leaving threats and insults and crude sexual comments.
This, apparently, is what “Men’s Human Rights Activism” consists of: the doxxing and harassment of individual women.
Several days ago, she contacted me to tell me about the harassment she’s endured. Here’s some of what she wrote:
I’m the red-head. I’m sure by now, you’re one of the 260,000 people who have seen the video of me … .
Because I had the audacity to tell a dude to stfu, an MRA no less, I have since been the target of not only just online misogyny (as if that’s a surprise) but cyber stalking, rape and death threats. They somehow found my facebook, they found my tumblr, they found a twitter acct that I don’t even use, they even found an old [dating site] profile of mine with outdated info …
I also got an anonymous message on tumblr that specifically said “[name deleted] would be disappointed”. [Name deleted] is my dog that died 1.5 years ago, I don’t talk about him on tumblr, nor fb, so they would have had to reaaaaalllly dig to find this info. …
In about 12-24hours, I got about400-500 new messages on my blog, most of them hate, which included rape and death threats, also people wishing death upon me or the typical troll “kill yourself” message. They made a meme of me.
I dunno how many haters I have, and I don’t know where they are. I can’t be sure at any given second, if I’m ever outside my house … if anyone is going to recognize me and try to hurt me.
With her permission, I am reposting screenshots she sent me documenting some of the harassment she’s endured. Even though her personal information has already been widely disseminated online, I don’t want to contribute to that, so I’ve whited out any information that might reveal her identity.
TRIGGER WARNING for what follows, for threatening language and crude sexual remarks.
Here’s a death threat she received from someone claiming to represent the “Islamic Brotherhood.”
Here are some sample comments from her Tumblr inbox. I’ve whited out comments and parts of comments that consist of her contact info, which being sent to her in an attempt to intimidate and frighten her by letting her know they “know where she lives.”
Here’s another threatening comment sent to her via Tumblr:
Here are some comments sent to her via her YouTube account. You’ll notice that the second comment comes from AVFM’s Dan Perrins, who is clearly relishing the attacks on her.
And another glimpse into her YouTube inbox:
Here’s a screenshot from a Men’s Rights forum revealing her personal information.
Meanwhile, over on YouTube, the hateful comments continue to pile up. Here are some of the nastiest ones I’ve collected. I am deliberately posting a lot of them in an attempt to convey something of the relentless nature of the attacks on teh red-haired activist — though I should note I’ve only gone through a small portion of the total comments there and this doesn’t even reflect all of the awful ones I found. These are not in any particular order. I threw in a few non-threatening ones that struck me as a tad ironic or otherwise revealing.
Again, this is only a small fraction of the abuse she’s gotten on YouTube.
This is what happens when MRAs and other misogynists target a woman online. The only thing that’s surprising here is the sheer amount of the hateful comments.
I’ve seen no serious attempts from any MRAs to rein in this sort of hatred. A Voice for Men has tried to distance itself in a superficial way from some of the harassment it has played a central role in unleashing, with an official announcement asking readers to refrain from posting the personal information of the red-haired activist in the comments. Meanwhile, in the AVFM forum, comments linking to her defunct dating profiles remain up.
This is what MRA “activism” looks like.
Coming tomorrow: A more detailed look at AVFM’s role in the harassment.
@dani
Ad hominem means attacking irrelevant details, not relevant ones. The fact that you are contributing to a hate movement does actually make you a hypocrite.
Dani: Pecunium was asking you what you were doing about the situation, if you find it so overboard. He said nothing about your posting there.
I’m not seeing a lot of condemnation from you.
Oh. I didn’t see his longer comment to you. Still not ad hom, but you are a hypocrite.
An ad hominem is a personal attack intended as a counterargument. That’s how I understand it at least.
RE: Aaliyah
Surely he wants to show the world how misandric Manboobz is.
Well, could he do it somewhere else? THIS man who’s dealt with suicidality really wishes he’d get out of that fireplace; I wanna use it.
@ugh
Okay. I understand. “I’m hoping that… apparent purpose” (not my words)
“I just watched the video David linked to and I did not hear anyone sing “cry me a river” at any point. Where is the evidence that this happened, Mark Jones?”
Here
Such concern for the issue of male suicide.
I’ll save my empathy and concern for people with hearts, and not those who mock men and the families that are dealing with the shattering problems that depression and suicide cause.
Um, you said you hoped that they would improve their image.
“Apparent purpose” weren’t your words, but it’s just a basic fact of objective reality. Avfm exists to spread hate, and their only “activism” is aimed at 1. lying to men by saying that there is no help for male domestic violence victims and 2. advocating against any form of consequences for abusers.
So death threats and rape are an OK response from your buds in the MRM, Marky Mark? So if she were harmed, to bad, so sad, bitch had it coming?
@Mark
You know that male suicide is only a bigger problem because men choose more effective methods, right? There is no structural problem causing more suicides in men than in women.
So guess what, when a movement that is anti-LGBTQ, anti-domestic violence legislation, and anti-childhood-support decides to trot out male suicide victims to justify their hate, yes, they deserve to be mocked.
See, Mark is totally justified swanning into the thread! She did the above so, therefore it is totally ok to threaten her with murder and rape!
Completely in proportion with the offense!
(no, no it is not)
Hm, I’m actually capable of empathy even for someone who says something I disagree with — at least, I wouldn’t condone death & rape threats against them.
Add that to the list of ways that feminists are better at being human than MRAs are, I guess. It’s a pretty long list.
So, I get why this particular person would rub some people up the wrong way. What I’m not getting is how you go from that to sending the person death threats, or how you think the death threats are going to help the men who you claim to be trying to help.
So Mark, those young women who were threatened for reporting their rapes and later killed themselves… What did they do to deserve that? Since you’re totally fine with online threats and abuse and all, at least against women.
Also, Mark you might want to Wikipedia yourself up the phrase “Sex differences in suicide.”
Like, do people think that getting this one woman to shut up means that the way the courts handle custody cases will change? Because that’s really not how it works.
Cloudiah, he only has empathy for men, and only men who have already committed suicide. So he does not actually have to condemn anything else, and certainly not mere threats against girls.
EMPATHY FOR WOMEN IS MISANDRY
Empathizing with someone doesn’t imply agreeing with them on everything (or even liking them as people), so you really don’t have any reason to not feel bad about her receiving countless death threats and rape threats from misogynists.
Maybe you should look at your own empathy.
I support Just Dentention even though some of those prisoners have done bad things.
^Detention^
I would also support Just Dentition, but only for the truly deserving.
Even if I accepted that she was simply dismissing male suicide outright, which I don’t find to be clearly demonstrated by that video, I wouldn’t conclude from that video that she did not “have a heart” or whatever. I wouldn’t conclude that someone like Mark Jones doesn’t have a heart, either, just because he dismisses horrific threats of rape and murder, even though he seems to be trying his damndest to convince us of that.
Freemage: I love nudibranchs! They come in so many pretty colors.
I would not be OK with anyone sending death threats to Elam, even though I do not think he is a nice person. I would not be OK with people sending death threats to anyone, because that’s a shitty thing to do.
Actually, I’m pretty sure I know what Mark would think about those young women who committed suicide after being cyberbullied subsequent to being raped.
See, the young men in question might be made suicidal if they were held accountable for their actions. Ergo, in Mark’s world, he’s protecting the real victims, who are always men.
Okay, that actually made me ill. No more entering the minds of MRAs for me today!
Fuck! Guys, there were just two explosions here! Somebody set off explosives at the Boston Marathon! It was really close to my old workplace!
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