And so the MRAs have found yet another woman to hate.
Earlier this month, as many of you no doubt know, a Men’s Rights group sponsored a lecture at the University of Toronto. The event drew protesters, and the protesters drew MRAs with video cameras. One of the MRAs filmed a confrontation between a red-haired feminist activist and a number of MRAs who continually interrupted her as she tried to read a brief statement.
Her crime? She wasn’t exactly polite in responding to the interrupters. And so, after video of the confrontation was uploaded to YouTube, and linked to on the Men’s Rights subreddit and elsewhere, she became a virtual punching bag for the angry misogynists of the internet.
A Voice for Men, naturally, led the charge, running an article by Canadian MRA Dan Perrins labeling her “Little red frothing fornication mouth” and commenting on her breasts. The Amazing Atheist weighed in with a video I couldn’t bring myself to even watch.
Since being targeted by angry YouTube misogynists and MRAs, the red-haired activist has received death threats, rape threats and literally hundreds of other hateful and harassing messages. She’s also been “doxxed” — that is, she’s had her personal information plastered all over the internet, including on A Voice for Men’s forum. Ten days after being uploaded to YouTube, the video of her faceoff against the MRAs has garnered more than 300,000 views, and YouTubers are still leaving threats and insults and crude sexual comments.
This, apparently, is what “Men’s Human Rights Activism” consists of: the doxxing and harassment of individual women.
Several days ago, she contacted me to tell me about the harassment she’s endured. Here’s some of what she wrote:
I’m the red-head. I’m sure by now, you’re one of the 260,000 people who have seen the video of me … .
Because I had the audacity to tell a dude to stfu, an MRA no less, I have since been the target of not only just online misogyny (as if that’s a surprise) but cyber stalking, rape and death threats. They somehow found my facebook, they found my tumblr, they found a twitter acct that I don’t even use, they even found an old [dating site] profile of mine with outdated info …
I also got an anonymous message on tumblr that specifically said “[name deleted] would be disappointed”. [Name deleted] is my dog that died 1.5 years ago, I don’t talk about him on tumblr, nor fb, so they would have had to reaaaaalllly dig to find this info. …
In about 12-24hours, I got about400-500 new messages on my blog, most of them hate, which included rape and death threats, also people wishing death upon me or the typical troll “kill yourself” message. They made a meme of me.
I dunno how many haters I have, and I don’t know where they are. I can’t be sure at any given second, if I’m ever outside my house … if anyone is going to recognize me and try to hurt me.
With her permission, I am reposting screenshots she sent me documenting some of the harassment she’s endured. Even though her personal information has already been widely disseminated online, I don’t want to contribute to that, so I’ve whited out any information that might reveal her identity.
TRIGGER WARNING for what follows, for threatening language and crude sexual remarks.
Here’s a death threat she received from someone claiming to represent the “Islamic Brotherhood.”
Here are some sample comments from her Tumblr inbox. I’ve whited out comments and parts of comments that consist of her contact info, which being sent to her in an attempt to intimidate and frighten her by letting her know they “know where she lives.”
Here’s another threatening comment sent to her via Tumblr:
Here are some comments sent to her via her YouTube account. You’ll notice that the second comment comes from AVFM’s Dan Perrins, who is clearly relishing the attacks on her.
And another glimpse into her YouTube inbox:
Here’s a screenshot from a Men’s Rights forum revealing her personal information.
Meanwhile, over on YouTube, the hateful comments continue to pile up. Here are some of the nastiest ones I’ve collected. I am deliberately posting a lot of them in an attempt to convey something of the relentless nature of the attacks on teh red-haired activist — though I should note I’ve only gone through a small portion of the total comments there and this doesn’t even reflect all of the awful ones I found. These are not in any particular order. I threw in a few non-threatening ones that struck me as a tad ironic or otherwise revealing.
Again, this is only a small fraction of the abuse she’s gotten on YouTube.
This is what happens when MRAs and other misogynists target a woman online. The only thing that’s surprising here is the sheer amount of the hateful comments.
I’ve seen no serious attempts from any MRAs to rein in this sort of hatred. A Voice for Men has tried to distance itself in a superficial way from some of the harassment it has played a central role in unleashing, with an official announcement asking readers to refrain from posting the personal information of the red-haired activist in the comments. Meanwhile, in the AVFM forum, comments linking to her defunct dating profiles remain up.
This is what MRA “activism” looks like.
Coming tomorrow: A more detailed look at AVFM’s role in the harassment.
“Moderate”?
“Community”?
I do not think those words mean what you think they mean.
Hee hee – reminds me of the episode of New Tricks where Gerry thought he had a really valuable fossil. It was a coprolite, of course, and not worth shit. 🙂
DefJam seems to think AVFM is like a weapon-forging scene from Lord of the Rings.
When actually, it’s just sixty-five-million-year-old fossilized shit that should’ve rotted away long, long ago.
Hey, this coprolite metaphor really works!
Oh dearz. I just got the ugliest mental picture of Elam as Gollum, gloating over his precious…
Kitteh — >.<
Ally — revision surgery isn't all that uncommon
Kitteh — yeah I was emailing pecunium when it clicked why they blame mom. See,
feministswomen want to impair a man’s sex life, incel! Risking trauma to a baby boy’s genitals is a way to do that. Ergo mom’s get their son’s cut because if anything goes amiss then she’s successfully injuries a man’s ability to get laid.Cuz it really is all about their bonkers.
I find the process by which “woman doesn’t want to have sex with me” or “woman doesn’t like me” becomes “woman wants to prevent me from having sex ever and also wants to castrate me” fascinating. It’s such a perfect little window into the epic narcissism of the person speaking/typing.
I’ve never understood the weird castration anxiety some of these people have. How many times does it HAPPEN to people, anyway?
Ooh, lots of new recipes to try out! Thank you! emilygoddess, definitely making the pasta puttanesca, that would be well-received at my house! auggzillary, a stir fry is a good idea, I didn’t think about that and I haven’t made a good stir fry for forever. And also, definitely Alice’s spring rolls. Do you need to bake them or anything after you roll them up, or can you eat them as is?
All of the food talk, of course, being more interesting than ToeJam, who keeps going on about the great wisdom of AVFM, without providing any actual examples of the supposedly great ideas that come out of that bastion of knowledge.
@Kittehs,
Eh, I’ve heard both fictional and real women express disgust at the thought of uncut penises, so from an MRA point of view we have motive for wanting all baby boys circumcised (the MRA point of view, unfortunately, includes a female hivemind and a gynocracy, and is thus incompatible with reality).
@Def Jam,
What does this even mean?
Perhaps an illustrative example is in order. Put up or shut up, Jammy.
Oh, no question (again, bet this is a heavily US centric thing); I was thinking more along the lines of MRAs thinking women want men unable to have sex at all, ergo getting them mutilated as infants. Of course it’s probably just beta men we all want treated that way, though quite how we’re supposed to know which baby’s an ALPHA and which is doomed to the horrors of eternal betadom I’ve no idea.
Cassandra – I will admit to being quite happy at the thought that Elam etc should never have sex with anyone else ever again, less because of them than because it spares the other person what could only be a shitty experience at best.
RE: emilygoddess
Eh, I’ve heard both fictional and real women express disgust at the thought of uncut penises,
Never understood this at all. I mean, sure, it gets gross if you don’t keep yourself clean, but that’s true for all parts of human anatomy!
Having seen cut and uncut penises, I did think “that’s odd” at my first uncut one. But he’s amazing in the sack so any “eh, weird” got lost fast!
Somehow I doubt this disgust is the simple “that’s different, whatever”.
“That’s different” plus the way the idea seems to be pushed in the US that uncut = gross, dirty, whatever.
I’ve no grounds for comparison but … yeah, intact. 😉
… Though of course it’s not the attachment that matters, it’s who it’s attached to.
It wasn’t that huge a surprise to me, but that’s because I am a museum dork who saw a lot of nudes. Honestly, with all the fuss I heard, once I found out, “Oh, that’s what they mean,” I felt a little disappointed. I expected, I dunno, some HUGE GIANT DIFFERENCE.
Hello? In a really significant part of the world, uncut penises are kind of, you know, the norm.
Don’t tell that to the MRM!
“avoiceformen.com is more of a heated discussion forum where individual ideas are discussed, melted down as if in a furnace, and ultimately refurnished into something greater than before.”
I guess they haven’t got around to that last part yet.
Yeah idk why the US pushes it the way we do. I mean, I got into this discussion with my pharm student, who thought uncut made it harder to clean. Like, PHARMACY STUDENT, they don’t teach that there’s no difference (if anything, cut is harder to clean, at least while it heals)
And it wasn’t a huge surprise, just a case of “not what I was expecting, but whatever”. I should perhaps note that my weirdness about genitals means I’ve had my hand down a non-binary lover’s pants and had a brief moment of “right, that’s what’s in here”. Not acknowledging my own means blocking everyone else’s apparently.
RE: Argenti
I mean, I got into this discussion with my pharm student, who thought uncut made it harder to clean.
So? My ears can be hard to clean, and I feel no desire to cut THEM off! Jeez, it’s like they don’t trust us to do basic hygiene or something. (And if we’re living in a place where it’s so hard to do hygiene, wouldn’t that mean a medical procedure like circumcision would be MORE dangerous?)
See, that’s one more thing I don’t get. My guaged ears are certainly a part I need to clean that most people don’t, but I wouldn’t let them close (if they even would at this point) — adults with running water can surely handle cleaning the foreskin, so we must mean babies. In which case even with running water you’d think having an open wound in a diaper would require more care than, well, not having said open wound (and thoughts on circumcision aside, medically speaking it is an open wound and does require the same sort of care. Except more so because, well, urine)
Plus babies are going to be washed by someone else anyway, so it still doesn’t make sense!
I noticed a few typos in your comment. I fixed them.
+1
Since we’re sort of general topics here, Imma going to say Mr and I had the best winter day yesternight. Not that we did anything much. We had a great big breakfast – bacon, eggs, sausages, toast, coffee – then planted ourselves in the rocking chairs either side of the fire (and couldn’t get up, ‘cos Rochelle was on his lap and Cindy was on mine). There were Furrinati snoring in heaps all around the place.
Best on this side was that when I couldn’t get at the memory, Louis told it all to me. Getting a clear, lengthy conversation happening on this side is special in itself. 🙂