And so the MRAs have found yet another woman to hate.
Earlier this month, as many of you no doubt know, a Men’s Rights group sponsored a lecture at the University of Toronto. The event drew protesters, and the protesters drew MRAs with video cameras. One of the MRAs filmed a confrontation between a red-haired feminist activist and a number of MRAs who continually interrupted her as she tried to read a brief statement.
Her crime? She wasn’t exactly polite in responding to the interrupters. And so, after video of the confrontation was uploaded to YouTube, and linked to on the Men’s Rights subreddit and elsewhere, she became a virtual punching bag for the angry misogynists of the internet.
A Voice for Men, naturally, led the charge, running an article by Canadian MRA Dan Perrins labeling her “Little red frothing fornication mouth” and commenting on her breasts. The Amazing Atheist weighed in with a video I couldn’t bring myself to even watch.
Since being targeted by angry YouTube misogynists and MRAs, the red-haired activist has received death threats, rape threats and literally hundreds of other hateful and harassing messages. She’s also been “doxxed” — that is, she’s had her personal information plastered all over the internet, including on A Voice for Men’s forum. Ten days after being uploaded to YouTube, the video of her faceoff against the MRAs has garnered more than 300,000 views, and YouTubers are still leaving threats and insults and crude sexual comments.
This, apparently, is what “Men’s Human Rights Activism” consists of: the doxxing and harassment of individual women.
Several days ago, she contacted me to tell me about the harassment she’s endured. Here’s some of what she wrote:
I’m the red-head. I’m sure by now, you’re one of the 260,000 people who have seen the video of me … .
Because I had the audacity to tell a dude to stfu, an MRA no less, I have since been the target of not only just online misogyny (as if that’s a surprise) but cyber stalking, rape and death threats. They somehow found my facebook, they found my tumblr, they found a twitter acct that I don’t even use, they even found an old [dating site] profile of mine with outdated info …
I also got an anonymous message on tumblr that specifically said “[name deleted] would be disappointed”. [Name deleted] is my dog that died 1.5 years ago, I don’t talk about him on tumblr, nor fb, so they would have had to reaaaaalllly dig to find this info. …
In about 12-24hours, I got about400-500 new messages on my blog, most of them hate, which included rape and death threats, also people wishing death upon me or the typical troll “kill yourself” message. They made a meme of me.
I dunno how many haters I have, and I don’t know where they are. I can’t be sure at any given second, if I’m ever outside my house … if anyone is going to recognize me and try to hurt me.
With her permission, I am reposting screenshots she sent me documenting some of the harassment she’s endured. Even though her personal information has already been widely disseminated online, I don’t want to contribute to that, so I’ve whited out any information that might reveal her identity.
TRIGGER WARNING for what follows, for threatening language and crude sexual remarks.
Here’s a death threat she received from someone claiming to represent the “Islamic Brotherhood.”
Here are some sample comments from her Tumblr inbox. I’ve whited out comments and parts of comments that consist of her contact info, which being sent to her in an attempt to intimidate and frighten her by letting her know they “know where she lives.”
Here’s another threatening comment sent to her via Tumblr:
Here are some comments sent to her via her YouTube account. You’ll notice that the second comment comes from AVFM’s Dan Perrins, who is clearly relishing the attacks on her.
And another glimpse into her YouTube inbox:
Here’s a screenshot from a Men’s Rights forum revealing her personal information.
Meanwhile, over on YouTube, the hateful comments continue to pile up. Here are some of the nastiest ones I’ve collected. I am deliberately posting a lot of them in an attempt to convey something of the relentless nature of the attacks on teh red-haired activist — though I should note I’ve only gone through a small portion of the total comments there and this doesn’t even reflect all of the awful ones I found. These are not in any particular order. I threw in a few non-threatening ones that struck me as a tad ironic or otherwise revealing.
Again, this is only a small fraction of the abuse she’s gotten on YouTube.
This is what happens when MRAs and other misogynists target a woman online. The only thing that’s surprising here is the sheer amount of the hateful comments.
I’ve seen no serious attempts from any MRAs to rein in this sort of hatred. A Voice for Men has tried to distance itself in a superficial way from some of the harassment it has played a central role in unleashing, with an official announcement asking readers to refrain from posting the personal information of the red-haired activist in the comments. Meanwhile, in the AVFM forum, comments linking to her defunct dating profiles remain up.
This is what MRA “activism” looks like.
Coming tomorrow: A more detailed look at AVFM’s role in the harassment.
Bigots always have big buts.
Steal anything! XD
NOOO NOT BIGOT SHAMING
First they came for the creeps, then they came for the bigots …
And now they’ll come for me! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!1!11!
The menz! The menz are being wiped out! The very core of their being is under attack!!!
Hide your dick, hide your balls, hell, just hide yourself! They’re castrating everybody out there!
Street harassment is totes rong when red haired girls do it to calm orderly MRAs? Srsly? Aren’t we all supposed to pretend it’s a compliment?
If you can blame a woman for her rape
And twist each last statistic out of shape;
If women’s independence leaves your mouth agape
And screaming for a dude’s way to escape;
If you want women to be slaves
As (of course!) they were when time began
And only penis-havers were the brave
Then MRAs will say you are a man!
(apologies to Kipling for the thieving and terrible writing)
Actually…nope.
And you’re not representing YOUR cause very well, either.
This thread right here. Wow.
No, but I can feel a buncha dudely dudes freaking out.
Nothing the young lady did could possibly justify death threats or rape threats. Nothing justifies that. There is no but. We men don’t get together and decide who to send this Monty’s death threats to.
So do you think that the people sending the death threats are the same people who attended the MRA conference? Is there any evidence to indicate that this is the case? If so that would be pretty damning, but I suspect not. Do you think that I sent death threats? Do you think that I sent rape threats?
Is it acceptable to pull a fire alarm to disrupt a conference you don’t agree with, and when the attendees enter the street is it acceptable to swear at them and accuse them of being pro-rape?
Feminism, the form that you support, is dying, and this is why.
“Month’s”
Stupid I-pad.
“Bigots always have big buts.”
Now I’m imagining the Feminist Doom Comic:
YOU ARE HUGE
THAT MEANS YOU HAVE HUGE BUTS
RIP AND TEAR
So can I! Which means that something must have gotten to them. Must be that dying movement I keep hearing so much about.
“I like big buts, and I cannot lie.” –Sir Bigot-a-lot
After reading the most recent entry on this blog I realize that telling you that your movement is dying isn’t a very classy thing to do. Sorry about that. It’s just a dig and it doesn’t promote an actual conversation. And to be honest I just spent a few days on another Red Pill forum trying to convince people that Nazis are bad. I don’t think I’m any more in favor of our extremists than I am of your extremists, and on my side of things there appears to be quite a few of them.
Hey dude, if you think a few hundred, even a few thousand, MRAs scattered around the world, whining about how women get to vote, or how it’s even the law in some places for us to get paid the same wage for the same work as men, or how we don’t provide sex on demand, mean “feminism is dying” then you’re deluded. Or stupid. Or indulging in misogynists’ wishful thinking.
And if you think “feminism is dying” and that’s a good thing, then however mealy-mouthed you are about it, you don’t give a shit for women’s welfare at all. For that matter, you don’t give a shit about men’s, because it’s feminism that actually discusses how patriarchal society hurts everyone, and seeks to do something about it. MRAs don’t. They just want to reclaim the power men in some countries have lost, because they don’t see women as human, and they see everything as a zero-sum game.
Okay, I posted that before your “it’s just a dig” comment.
What extremists are you talking about, with feminism? Don’t for pity’s sake bring up second-wavers, or Valerie Solanas, or any of the nonsense MRAs do.
Also, what are the moderate MRAs doing or saying? Because, y’know, this is a movement that has men whining about how haaaard it is to be a man in India (the country identfied as the worst place in the world to be born female). It’s the group whose primary site – AVfM – had links to a terrorist how-to, and has things like “bash a violent b1tch month,” and whose owner talks about how he’d never vote guilty in a rape trial, even if he were sure the (male) defendant was.
Our extremists? You mean TERfs? Those people no one here can stand? Cuz feminists have no problem going “that shit isn’t okay” to other feminists, but MRAs staunchly refuse to question their own.
Except when Minty claimed he was getting married, of course; they all got their knickers in a twist over that Terribul Betrayal.
Funny thing – I’ve never had to convince a feminist that the Nazis were bad people.
All MRAs are extremists. It is in their nature. Goes with the whole “men are oppressed if they don’t reign supreme” thing.
But nice try at backpedalling, all the same.
Tone trolls. Not to be confused with Tone Loc, who is far more entertaining.
Ah, yes, if only that red-haired woman had been more polite. Quieter. Yielded to the men who were interrupting her. Didn’t swear so much. Didn’t express opinions. Wasn’t so rude. Because, obviously, then she wouldn’t be getting death threats. And of course, her behavior is the most important thing here, not the behavior of men who threaten physical harm to someone hiding behind the anonymity of the Internet. Not the people who doxxed her, so that anyone who gets it into their head that threats don’t go far enough, and decided to act on those threats.
And of course, we all know that the punishment for rudeness is rape and/or death. If your a woman, that is.
There is no but, BUT:
She pulled a fucking fire alarm! She swore at men on the street! You can’t prove who made those threats!
Clutch those pearls, sweetie.
No sweetie. Despite what you desperately want to believe, feminism is neither dead nor dying. You keep telling yourself that, though, if it makes you feel better.
Women don’t have any right to be angry. Because anger at injustice is MISANDRY!!!111eleventyone!!!
Oh, yeah, you’re just here for a conversation. Pull the other one, dude. And then fuck off.
What form of feminism do we support, oh wise one?
This guy must think that there’s a quiet, polite, and all-about-the-men form of feminism out there.