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Canadian feminist activist receives death threats and other abuse after being targeted by Men’s Rights Activists

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And so the MRAs have found yet another woman to hate.

Earlier this month, as many of you no doubt know, a Men’s Rights group sponsored a lecture at the University of Toronto. The event drew protesters, and the protesters drew MRAs with video cameras. One of the MRAs filmed a confrontation between a red-haired feminist activist and a number of MRAs who continually interrupted her as she tried to read a brief statement.

Her crime? She wasn’t exactly polite in responding to the interrupters. And so, after video of the confrontation was uploaded to YouTube, and linked to on the Men’s Rights subreddit and elsewhere, she became a virtual punching bag for the angry misogynists of the internet.

A Voice for Men, naturally, led the charge, running  an article by Canadian MRA Dan Perrins labeling her “Little red frothing fornication mouth” and commenting on her breasts. The Amazing Atheist weighed in with a video I couldn’t bring myself to even watch.

Since being targeted by angry YouTube misogynists and MRAs, the red-haired activist has received death threats, rape threats and literally hundreds of other hateful and harassing messages. She’s also been “doxxed” — that is, she’s had her personal information plastered all over the internet, including on A Voice for Men’s forum. Ten days after being uploaded to YouTube, the video of her faceoff against the MRAs has garnered more than 300,000 views, and YouTubers are still leaving threats and insults and crude sexual comments.

This, apparently, is what “Men’s Human Rights Activism” consists of: the doxxing and harassment of individual women.

Several days ago, she contacted me to tell me about the harassment she’s endured. Here’s some of what she wrote:

I’m the red-head. I’m sure by now, you’re one of the 260,000 people who have seen the video of me … .

Because I had the audacity to tell a dude to stfu, an MRA no less, I have since been the target of not only just online misogyny (as if that’s a surprise) but cyber stalking, rape and death threats. They somehow found my facebook, they found my tumblr, they found a twitter acct that I don’t even use, they even found an old [dating site] profile of mine with outdated info …

I also got an anonymous message on tumblr that specifically said “[name deleted] would be disappointed”. [Name deleted] is my dog that died 1.5 years ago, I don’t talk about him on tumblr, nor fb, so they would have had to reaaaaalllly dig to find this info. …

In about 12-24hours, I got about400-500 new messages on my blog, most of them hate, which included rape and death threats, also people wishing death upon me or the typical troll “kill yourself” message. They made a meme of me.

I dunno how many haters I have, and I don’t know where they are. I can’t be sure at any given second, if I’m ever outside my house … if anyone is going to recognize me and try to hurt me.

With her permission, I am reposting screenshots she sent me documenting some of the harassment she’s endured. Even though her personal information has already been widely disseminated online, I don’t want to contribute to that, so I’ve whited out any information that might reveal her identity.

TRIGGER WARNING for what follows, for threatening language and crude sexual remarks.

Here’s a death threat she received from someone claiming to represent the “Islamic Brotherhood.”

REDHFBmusbroDeaththreatANON

Here are some sample comments from her Tumblr inbox. I’ve whited out comments and parts of comments that consist of her contact info, which being sent to her in an attempt to intimidate and frighten her by letting her know they “know where she lives.”

REDHtumbmessDOXanonRedHtumblraddressANON

Here’s another threatening comment sent to her via Tumblr:

REDHTumbbakedThreatANON

Here are some comments sent to her via her YouTube account. You’ll notice that the second comment comes from AVFM’s Dan Perrins, who is clearly relishing the attacks on her.

REDHytheraccountDannyANON2

And another glimpse into her YouTube inbox:

REDHYTmessGagANON

Here’s a screenshot from a Men’s Rights forum revealing her personal information.

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Meanwhile, over on YouTube, the hateful comments continue to pile up. Here are some of the nastiest ones I’ve collected. I am deliberately posting a lot of them in an attempt to convey something of the relentless nature of the attacks on teh red-haired activist — though I should note I’ve only gone through a small portion of the total comments there and this doesn’t even reflect all of the awful ones I found. These are not in any particular order. I threw in a few non-threatening ones that struck me as a tad ironic or otherwise revealing.

REDHYTcheesegraterANON

REDHYTnewbulletANONREDHYTnewequalanonREDHYTnewkitchenpunchanon

redhytnewoad2anonREDHYTnewpunchedanonREDHYTnewtitsanonREDHYTnewpunchcuntanonREDHYTnewwouldhavepunchanonREDHYTnewpunchrapeanon REDHYTnewpunchagainanonREDHYTnewripjawanon REDHYTsaudiarabiaANON

REDHYTslitthroatANON

REDHYTneedstodieANONUSETHISONEREDHYTdoublepenANONREDHYTpunchANONREDHytgetrapedANONREDHYTwantpunchANONREDHYTshovedANONREDHYTfemdeserveANONREDHYTanotherpunchANONREDHyTpenisANON

Again, this is only a small fraction of the abuse she’s gotten on YouTube.

This is what happens when MRAs and other misogynists target a woman online. The only thing that’s surprising here is the sheer amount of the hateful comments.

I’ve seen no serious attempts from any MRAs to rein in this sort of hatred. A Voice for Men has tried to distance itself in a superficial way from some of the harassment it has played a central role in unleashing, with an official announcement asking readers to refrain from posting the personal information of the red-haired activist in the comments. Meanwhile, in the AVFM forum, comments  linking to her defunct dating profiles remain up.

This is what MRA “activism” looks like.

Coming tomorrow: A more detailed look at AVFM’s role in the harassment.

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Bostonian
Bostonian
11 years ago

Dude, you came in here and declared yourself indifferent to the death and rape threats she was getting.

Mark Jones
Mark Jones
11 years ago

Marky, you say stuff that I don’t agree with and yet I STILL think that no one should put your personal details online and send you rape threats.

Neither do I. What’s your point (other than trying to imply – without any evidence whatsoever – that I would condone such activities)?

leftwingfox
11 years ago

Are you experiencing some kind of emotion driven cognitive dissonance? Where have I condoned a death threat?

Look up. Look at the original post of chronicled harassment she’s received. Just a fraction of the total.

And after all that, you think it’s vital, VITAL, to point out that she may have cavalierly dismissed an MRA’s concern about male suicide rates.

Because of that, you are either implying that this disproportionate level of abuse is justified or expected, or, most charitably, you are so wound up in your personal issue that you’ve lost all sense of proportion and empathy for the lives of other people outside that issue.

Fade
11 years ago

I will respond to her concerns with the same words she used in response to the issue of male suicide; “cry me a river”.

In case you forgot we can go back and read the first thing you posted, Marky.

How is that anything except “I don’t care she got death/rape threats from hundreds of people because she said “cry me a river” on male suicide”?

cloudiah
11 years ago

I’m serious, if he’s not lying, I don’t think Mark Jones has any business working with children. If a kid is being bullied, he’d likely scour their past to see what they did to deserve it. (But again, maybe that’s just for girls.)

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

Why is Mark so focused on hellkell?

Joanna
11 years ago

What Fade said ^

There’s your zero evidence Mark =P

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

I hear you, cloudiah. Much like his master Elam, who should never have been in the counseling field.

Uh, Mark? Your whole attitude–your first comment, even–pretty much says you don’t give a shit what happens to her, therefore you condone the behavior towards her. Damn, you’re slow.

pecunium
11 years ago

Mark: Are you experiencing some kind of emotion driven cognitive dissonance? Where have I condoned a death threat?

In this thread. Here, let me help you:

con·done
/kənˈdōn/
Verb

Accept and allow (behavior that is considered morally wrong or offensive) to continue.

Above you said: I will respond to her concerns with the same words she used in response to the issue of male suicide; “cry me a river”.

That’s “accepting”, so too is I merely stated my indifference towards her predicament,

You arecondoning it.

Bostonian
Bostonian
11 years ago

Here’s the thing, Mark will tapdance around the word condoned, because he thinks swanning into this thread and declaring himself indifferent to the volume of rape and death threats is a completely rational response to the post.

That is what the MRM is all about.

Not helping domestic abuse victims by raising money and building shelters, but seeking to tear down shelters for women instead.

Not actually working to reduce prison rape, but only seeking to prevent women from reporting rape.

MRAs are not interested in improving anything, they just want to return to the fantasy version of the 1950’s.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

Like an opposite day version of “a rising tide lifts all ships”.

pecunium
11 years ago

Markie: Marky, you say stuff that I don’t agree with and yet I STILL think that no one should put your personal details online and send you rape threats.

Neither do I. What’s your point (other than trying to imply – without any evidence whatsoever – that I would condone such activities)?

But you don’t care that they are, because you think she’s a nasty person, she told a dude to STFU, and you condone it (you may not encourage it, but you certainly think it’s acceptable).

Boo hoo. I mean how terrible for him to be told to stop his gob. That totes means saying she ought to be choked, raped and eviscerated is no big deal; something to be “indifferent” too.

English, it’s so hard.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Seriously, how hard is it NOT to be wishy-washy and mealy-mouthed in not condoning rape and death threats? Very hard, for Mark.

freemage
11 years ago

Thanks to all for dealing with Li’l Markie Jones. For those who’ve been so bold as to try to refute him, despite the fact that he clearly has his head so firmly lodged between his asscheeks that he can ignore any words that he doesn’t like, I offer a restorative:

Red Panda:
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/red-pandas-the-cutest-thing-ive-ever-seen-8847-1271738351-1.jpg

A puppy:
http://www.thatcutesite.com/uploads/2011/08/cutest_puppy_ever_fluffy.jpg

A baby giraffe kiss:
http://cdn.indulgy.com/c/BB/3F/256423772503602593s4ynu3ZEc.jpg

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
11 years ago

I just watched the video David linked to and I did not hear anyone sing “cry me a river” at any point. Where is the evidence that this happened, Mark Jones?

freemage
11 years ago

And finally (I didn’t want to get held up in moderation, so I split my linkstorm–you folks are being so stalwart, you need all the support you can get, stat):

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hJp7-w3_fXQ/TwNARFzUl5I/AAAAAAAAB-8/6zy_tDHA8Yg/s1600/121-cutest-thing-ever-nothing-you-see-will-compare-to-its-sheer-adorable.jpg

neuroticbeagle
11 years ago

Is the brain bleach I posted big enough for all non trolls to see or should I repost?

dani pettas
11 years ago

@pecunium. I don’t think I’m out of line or something by posting a comment, or that there’s anything wrong with what I wrote. It seems like you are making an ad hominem criticism. If you’re telling me to stop commenting, I will do that.

I’m responsible for my own words.

I submitted two things to AVfM. One was about the Hanna Rosin book, ‘The End of Men.’ AVfM is a cool space for that book to be in (even if there’s some misogyny there). The other was about The Good Men Project, which I gave an explanation of on my WordPress page.

There’s a place on the site where it says what to do to submit writing, that’s how I submitted both of those.

Maybe you’re suggesting that I ask them to remove my stuff. Honestly, I’ve thought about that, but I keep hoping that they’ll improve their image. I don’t have to be a moral “crusader” (to borrow from Manboobz’s description of Erin Pizzey).

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Dani: why don’t you read up on what an ad hom is before throwing that around? Thanks.

If you really think AVfM is going to improve it’s image, you have a hell of a long wait in front of you.

cloudiah
11 years ago

Thank you all for the brain bleach.

Here’s my contribution.

LBT
LBT
11 years ago

RE: Marky

This post was about the woman’s harassment. That’s what we are talking about. If you have no interest in talking about it, then… why are you here, exactly? What is your goal here? I mean, you don’t seem to like anyone here, you aren’t on topic… what are you trying to do?

Aaliyah
11 years ago

This post was about the woman’s harassment. That’s what we are talking about. If you have no interest in talking about it, then… why are you here, exactly? What is your goal here? I mean, you don’t seem to like anyone here, you aren’t on topic… what are you trying to do?

Surely he wants to show the world how misandric Manboobz is.

This pseudo ad hom was brought to you by Aaliyah.

dani pettas
11 years ago

@hellkell

Did I misuse ad hominem? If I did, what would have been better usage? (I thought the commenter was saying because I posted on AVfM, that it’s hypocritical of me to comment on this… and that’s a personal attack, instead of talking about what I wrote.) Did I use it wrong?

I’m on the defense. I commented that it was “really terrible behavior”… and I said I’ve considered asking them to remove my stuff… but I hope they’ll improve their image… (I’m not AVfM, I’m just some guy who submitted two things.)

I’m not attacking anyone. I’m defending myself against two comments that were directed at me.

Ugh
Ugh
11 years ago

Honestly, I’ve thought about that, but I keep hoping that they’ll improve their image.

“I’m hoping that a political movement whose only apparent purpose is hate and advocating on behalf of abusers will improve its image.”

Good luck with that.

Maybe you’re suggesting that I ask them to remove my stuff.

Haha yeah it probably wouldn’t be a bad idea to not have an article with your name on it posted on a hate site.

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