And so the MRAs have found yet another woman to hate.
Earlier this month, as many of you no doubt know, a Men’s Rights group sponsored a lecture at the University of Toronto. The event drew protesters, and the protesters drew MRAs with video cameras. One of the MRAs filmed a confrontation between a red-haired feminist activist and a number of MRAs who continually interrupted her as she tried to read a brief statement.
Her crime? She wasn’t exactly polite in responding to the interrupters. And so, after video of the confrontation was uploaded to YouTube, and linked to on the Men’s Rights subreddit and elsewhere, she became a virtual punching bag for the angry misogynists of the internet.
A Voice for Men, naturally, led the charge, running an article by Canadian MRA Dan Perrins labeling her “Little red frothing fornication mouth” and commenting on her breasts. The Amazing Atheist weighed in with a video I couldn’t bring myself to even watch.
Since being targeted by angry YouTube misogynists and MRAs, the red-haired activist has received death threats, rape threats and literally hundreds of other hateful and harassing messages. She’s also been “doxxed” — that is, she’s had her personal information plastered all over the internet, including on A Voice for Men’s forum. Ten days after being uploaded to YouTube, the video of her faceoff against the MRAs has garnered more than 300,000 views, and YouTubers are still leaving threats and insults and crude sexual comments.
This, apparently, is what “Men’s Human Rights Activism” consists of: the doxxing and harassment of individual women.
Several days ago, she contacted me to tell me about the harassment she’s endured. Here’s some of what she wrote:
I’m the red-head. I’m sure by now, you’re one of the 260,000 people who have seen the video of me … .
Because I had the audacity to tell a dude to stfu, an MRA no less, I have since been the target of not only just online misogyny (as if that’s a surprise) but cyber stalking, rape and death threats. They somehow found my facebook, they found my tumblr, they found a twitter acct that I don’t even use, they even found an old [dating site] profile of mine with outdated info …
I also got an anonymous message on tumblr that specifically said “[name deleted] would be disappointed”. [Name deleted] is my dog that died 1.5 years ago, I don’t talk about him on tumblr, nor fb, so they would have had to reaaaaalllly dig to find this info. …
In about 12-24hours, I got about400-500 new messages on my blog, most of them hate, which included rape and death threats, also people wishing death upon me or the typical troll “kill yourself” message. They made a meme of me.
I dunno how many haters I have, and I don’t know where they are. I can’t be sure at any given second, if I’m ever outside my house … if anyone is going to recognize me and try to hurt me.
With her permission, I am reposting screenshots she sent me documenting some of the harassment she’s endured. Even though her personal information has already been widely disseminated online, I don’t want to contribute to that, so I’ve whited out any information that might reveal her identity.
TRIGGER WARNING for what follows, for threatening language and crude sexual remarks.
Here’s a death threat she received from someone claiming to represent the “Islamic Brotherhood.”
Here are some sample comments from her Tumblr inbox. I’ve whited out comments and parts of comments that consist of her contact info, which being sent to her in an attempt to intimidate and frighten her by letting her know they “know where she lives.”
Here’s another threatening comment sent to her via Tumblr:
Here are some comments sent to her via her YouTube account. You’ll notice that the second comment comes from AVFM’s Dan Perrins, who is clearly relishing the attacks on her.
And another glimpse into her YouTube inbox:
Here’s a screenshot from a Men’s Rights forum revealing her personal information.
Meanwhile, over on YouTube, the hateful comments continue to pile up. Here are some of the nastiest ones I’ve collected. I am deliberately posting a lot of them in an attempt to convey something of the relentless nature of the attacks on teh red-haired activist — though I should note I’ve only gone through a small portion of the total comments there and this doesn’t even reflect all of the awful ones I found. These are not in any particular order. I threw in a few non-threatening ones that struck me as a tad ironic or otherwise revealing.
Again, this is only a small fraction of the abuse she’s gotten on YouTube.
This is what happens when MRAs and other misogynists target a woman online. The only thing that’s surprising here is the sheer amount of the hateful comments.
I’ve seen no serious attempts from any MRAs to rein in this sort of hatred. A Voice for Men has tried to distance itself in a superficial way from some of the harassment it has played a central role in unleashing, with an official announcement asking readers to refrain from posting the personal information of the red-haired activist in the comments. Meanwhile, in the AVFM forum, comments linking to her defunct dating profiles remain up.
This is what MRA “activism” looks like.
Coming tomorrow: A more detailed look at AVFM’s role in the harassment.
“Her attitude, her foul language, her aggressive bully like behaviour etc. are the reason people are threatening her.”
“What goes around comes around.”
And it’s you two who are accusing her of being hateful. That’s rich.
… What goes around comes around 40 years later?
I know “The wheels of justice grind slow”, but – really?
Yeah there was literally nothing new said in your post, Bren.
Also, do you seriously believe that if she was a man, shed get a ton of comments insulting her gender, body, and also giving rape threats? Or talking about her breasts?
You are really fucking disgusting if you think that the MRM’s reaction was deserved.
Jesus, this fucking thread won’t die. Hey new trolls: read what’s been written. Y’all are bringing nothing new to the table.
Bren has hit the nail right on the head.
By engaging in bullyragging behavior? By using foul language and a nasty demeanor?
Sorry, she may be deluded, and inane, but she’s hit nothing on the head. She’s engaged in tired rhetoric (really tired, as in this thread is pretty much nothing but a bunch of people who beat her to the punch on this line of bullshit).
People hate her because she’s a woman speaking out. Paul Elam says the MRM needs to, “fuck their shit up” and no one is going all “hound him to the ends of the earth”.
So thanks for playing, but it’s old news.
Dennis:You should read some back copies of MS. magazine from the 1970′s. Nothing but vicious hate from the woman’s liberation movement against men largely promoted by National Organization Of Women. What goes around comes around.
You can do it.
Hellkell: They need some place to count coup.
WELL I MAKE FART NOISES WITH MY MOUTH…PFFBBTT-PFFBBTT-PFFBBTT-PFFBBTT-PFFBBTT
I’m so glad you necro’d an old thread to share that.
That’s nice Gabby. You go sober up in the back now.
Idk pffffbbbbtttt is pretty funny while sober. Though I guess we could count my sleeping pill induced fog as not sober. In any case, go pffffbbbttt at trolls, not dead threads.
These misogynists are a bunch of animals.
If she was a man, she would have been arrested and charged with threatening behaviour.
She is a bully . People who defend bullies are usually bullies themselves.
jono, that is a brand new claim that hasn’t been addressed at all in the EIGHT MONTHS this thread has been open.
But people who send rape and death threats to someone totally aren’t bullies at all. Nope.
Translation: WAAAAA! She offends me! And so do you for not joining the pile-on! MISANDRYYYYY!!!
Citation needed. Examples of lots of men being arrested and charged with threatening behaviour for behaving exactly as she did. Proof that you searched and failed to find any men behaving like that who were not arrested and charged with threatening behaviour. No hurry. We’ll wait.
Says you. What behaviours precisely make her a bully? How do these differ from the behaviours of a non-bully who is very frustrated and passionate? How can we tell the difference?
So we’re agreed that sending death and rape threats is indefensible?
Telling someone on the street to STFU while you read a statement is illegal? Really?
Again, the irony is overwhelming. The people who doxxed her and sent death and rape threats aren’t bullies. The people who are saying, “It’s wrong to dox people and send them rape death threats” are bullies.
Facepalm.
Hey all. The death threats and promises of rape are deplorable, so I’m not about to stand shoulder to shoulder with those idiots, but this young lady did not represent her cause very well.
Te MRA’s were having a calm, orderly conference. They video recorded it. In the video you can hear a mob of feminists outside with blow horns attempting to shout them down (free speech? Not on their watch!) then somebody pulls the fire alarm, wonder who that could have been, and the MRA’s dutifully file out of the building. The feminists heap abuse and profanity on them and accuse them of being pro-rape. The woman with the bright red hair screams profanity at an MRA who dares interrupt her. She had cheered when the fire alarm went, almost as if she had seen it coming, and then has the nerve to call a man she forced into the street a “fuck face.”
You guys can feel your movement dying, can’t you?
No. See, it doesn’t matter how well she’s representing her cause. It’s the rape and death threats. This woman is receiving rape and death threats; she’s had her personal information plastered all over the Internet. Her crime? Swearing at men. Don’t see something wrong there? She is receiving rape and death threats because she swore at some men on the street.
Now see, freedom of speech is a wonderful thing. It applies to men and women alike. It applies to protestors and and counter-protestors alike. It also applies to women yelling “fuck face” at people. Were there cops there, waiting to arrest those MRA’s at the feminist demand? No? Then nobody’s free speech was violated.
Oh honey, here you tip your hand. Almost, but not quite.
Our movement is just getting started.
Well, I’ll give the necro-troll this, I don’t think this thread had yet had accusation that minims was a dying movement. Given that the rest of this has been gone over ELEVENBILLIONITY times, that’s something.
Oh no, some feminists called MRAs pro-rape! An unforgivable crime.
Um, no.
Freeze peach? I prefer freeze mango and will totally take away your freeze mango *grabs mango, runs off*
Everybody wins, I get a mango, pecunium doesn’t.
Didn’t we establish that the pulled fire alarm was at a different event? It’s been a while since I read this thread, what with it being half a year old and everything.
Yeah, young people getting excited about a movement is always the first sign of its imminent demise.
Because obviously yelling at people you disagree with at means that the rape and death threats are justified, or that the people making them have an excuse.
Ah, one of those famous “but” clauses :
“I don’t want to sound racist but …”
“I’m not sexist but …”
“The death threats and promises of rape are deplorable, so I’m not about to stand shoulder to shoulder with those idiots, but …”
where the second part of the sentence disproves the first part.
“I don’t want to sound racist but …” followed by raging racism
“I’m not sexist but …” followed by extreme misogyny
“The death threats and promises of rape are deplorable, so I’m not about to stand shoulder to shoulder with those idiots, but …” followed by death and rape threat apology.