And so the MRAs have found yet another woman to hate.
Earlier this month, as many of you no doubt know, a Men’s Rights group sponsored a lecture at the University of Toronto. The event drew protesters, and the protesters drew MRAs with video cameras. One of the MRAs filmed a confrontation between a red-haired feminist activist and a number of MRAs who continually interrupted her as she tried to read a brief statement.
Her crime? She wasn’t exactly polite in responding to the interrupters. And so, after video of the confrontation was uploaded to YouTube, and linked to on the Men’s Rights subreddit and elsewhere, she became a virtual punching bag for the angry misogynists of the internet.
A Voice for Men, naturally, led the charge, running an article by Canadian MRA Dan Perrins labeling her “Little red frothing fornication mouth” and commenting on her breasts. The Amazing Atheist weighed in with a video I couldn’t bring myself to even watch.
Since being targeted by angry YouTube misogynists and MRAs, the red-haired activist has received death threats, rape threats and literally hundreds of other hateful and harassing messages. She’s also been “doxxed” — that is, she’s had her personal information plastered all over the internet, including on A Voice for Men’s forum. Ten days after being uploaded to YouTube, the video of her faceoff against the MRAs has garnered more than 300,000 views, and YouTubers are still leaving threats and insults and crude sexual comments.
This, apparently, is what “Men’s Human Rights Activism” consists of: the doxxing and harassment of individual women.
Several days ago, she contacted me to tell me about the harassment she’s endured. Here’s some of what she wrote:
I’m the red-head. I’m sure by now, you’re one of the 260,000 people who have seen the video of me … .
Because I had the audacity to tell a dude to stfu, an MRA no less, I have since been the target of not only just online misogyny (as if that’s a surprise) but cyber stalking, rape and death threats. They somehow found my facebook, they found my tumblr, they found a twitter acct that I don’t even use, they even found an old [dating site] profile of mine with outdated info …
I also got an anonymous message on tumblr that specifically said “[name deleted] would be disappointed”. [Name deleted] is my dog that died 1.5 years ago, I don’t talk about him on tumblr, nor fb, so they would have had to reaaaaalllly dig to find this info. …
In about 12-24hours, I got about400-500 new messages on my blog, most of them hate, which included rape and death threats, also people wishing death upon me or the typical troll “kill yourself” message. They made a meme of me.
I dunno how many haters I have, and I don’t know where they are. I can’t be sure at any given second, if I’m ever outside my house … if anyone is going to recognize me and try to hurt me.
With her permission, I am reposting screenshots she sent me documenting some of the harassment she’s endured. Even though her personal information has already been widely disseminated online, I don’t want to contribute to that, so I’ve whited out any information that might reveal her identity.
TRIGGER WARNING for what follows, for threatening language and crude sexual remarks.
Here’s a death threat she received from someone claiming to represent the “Islamic Brotherhood.”
Here are some sample comments from her Tumblr inbox. I’ve whited out comments and parts of comments that consist of her contact info, which being sent to her in an attempt to intimidate and frighten her by letting her know they “know where she lives.”
Here’s another threatening comment sent to her via Tumblr:
Here are some comments sent to her via her YouTube account. You’ll notice that the second comment comes from AVFM’s Dan Perrins, who is clearly relishing the attacks on her.
And another glimpse into her YouTube inbox:
Here’s a screenshot from a Men’s Rights forum revealing her personal information.
Meanwhile, over on YouTube, the hateful comments continue to pile up. Here are some of the nastiest ones I’ve collected. I am deliberately posting a lot of them in an attempt to convey something of the relentless nature of the attacks on teh red-haired activist — though I should note I’ve only gone through a small portion of the total comments there and this doesn’t even reflect all of the awful ones I found. These are not in any particular order. I threw in a few non-threatening ones that struck me as a tad ironic or otherwise revealing.
Again, this is only a small fraction of the abuse she’s gotten on YouTube.
This is what happens when MRAs and other misogynists target a woman online. The only thing that’s surprising here is the sheer amount of the hateful comments.
I’ve seen no serious attempts from any MRAs to rein in this sort of hatred. A Voice for Men has tried to distance itself in a superficial way from some of the harassment it has played a central role in unleashing, with an official announcement asking readers to refrain from posting the personal information of the red-haired activist in the comments. Meanwhile, in the AVFM forum, comments linking to her defunct dating profiles remain up.
This is what MRA “activism” looks like.
Coming tomorrow: A more detailed look at AVFM’s role in the harassment.
Titian, I did: ” I don’t feel the least bit sorry for her receiving this tidal wave of hate.”
But… There’s a huge difference between “You’re a horrible effing bitch” and “You should be raped and killed” And frankly, I worry for anyone who does not seem to see that difference.
Then you should worry about your buds in the MRM. They seem to have trouble making the distinction.
I worry for someone who sees a person say something mean in public, and then sees that same person suffer an onslaught of doxxing, followed by rape and death threats — and thinks the “saying something mean in public” is the part that needs to be called out.
R. Dover, I hear there’s a great sale on moral compasses on Amazon, so you might want to try replacing yours.
I worry for someone who thinks they’re justified in becoming one of hundreds of people calling someone a “horrible effing bitch”, when (1) they don’t live anywhere near her and (2) she was rude to someone, she’s not a fucking murderer or something. We’re talking about scale, here (well, and the history of the harassment of women and how much common it is on the Internet, but you probably don’t care about those things)
Hellkell, I don’t have any buds in the MRM, but are they anything like the feminists wanting to cull the worlds male population to 10%, and only keep them for breeding purposes?
Cloudiah, Could you provide me with a link to the Amazon page? I couldn’t find it.
Emily, (1) I never called her a ‘Horrible effing bitch’. I was pointing out the difference between the two statements, which you seem to have missed. (2) Do you honestly believe that women are the only ones to be harassed online? You actually think that any man in a similar situation won’t receive as much hate from feminists?
Ah, trollus disingenuous. The most tedious of the subspecies.
Red Rover, I will provide a link to the Amazon page when you provide me to a link of a mainstream, well-respected feminist who is advocating culling the world’s male population to 10%. Thanks.
Idiot.
(1) I never said you did. I was just borrowing your format.
(2)Dude, it’s not just feminists who get harassed, and it’s not just women who say ~mean~ things at protests. Google “being a woman on the Internet” and educate yourself.
(2.5) No, I have never seen this level of hate campaign directed at an MRA, by feminists or anyone else. Nice try, though.
Cloudiah, Would you accept Sally Miller Gearhart as a ‘mainstream, well-respected’ feminist? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_Miller_Gearhart)
“The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race.”
I know nothing about the MRM, me. I am merely a humble anti-feminist who has amassed a vast collection of random links with which to further my misogynist grudge-wank.
Rover, nope. Nor will I accept a quote without a citation that can be verified. Note: Linking to a MRM page listing quotes (that have been debunked, right here on this very blog) does not count as a citation.
Idiot.
There are no good trolls any more. No creativity, no wit, no intelligence. I’m scoring Rover at 0/10.
Very well, how about Mary Daly (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Daly)?
“If life is to survive on this planet, there must be a decontamination of the Earth. I think this will be accompanied by an evolutionary process that will result in a drastic reduction of the population of males.”
Or are you simply not going to accept ANY proof that there are (or were, in Mary Daly’s case) feminists who argued for male depopulation?
On another note, I find it amusing that, because I do not side with the activist from the article, it is automatically assumed that I am male. I also must commend the brilliant puns to my name as ways to show how much you disrespect me. Bravo!
It is true that I have no respect for you, but the puns are just a way to amuse myself when I take a break from folding laundry. (Note to self: Unfolded laundry shows more wit, creativity and intelligence than Rover here.)
And now it’s the patented MRM strategy of goalpost-moving along with continued copypasta!
0/10 and holding.
Absolutely. And while those feminists you mentioned are a very small minority, you are much more likely to find bigoted assholes within the MRM. Examples of major MRAs who are hateful: Angry Harry, Warren Farrell, Paul Elam, and GirlWritesWhat.
Honestly, a 1:9 male:female population ratio sounds like a PUA’s dream. /sarcasm
If you’re talking about the Sally Miller Gearhart article, ‘The Future—If There is One—Is Female’ bugaboo that people like to drag out, yeah, no.
A. I have read that article, and you’re misrepresenting what she is actually saying. Feel free to post some more in-context quotes to back up your position, since you totally read it and know what you’re talking about rather than just parroting something you read on a “crazy feminist quotes” list.
B. That was written a while ago, and wasn’t particularly influential. Search JSTOR for how many people cite it if you don’t believe me.
No, I dishonestly believe it. I know it is a lie I tell myself, but I continue to repeat it out of spite and malice. I have no problem acting on and thinking with proven falsehoods I dishonestly believe, because such a trite thing as consistency is no barrier for me.
(Note: does anyone ever say that?)
Thanks for stopping by to drop that turd in the punchbowl, Dover.
“I don’t condone abuse BUT I SURE DON’T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HER RECEIVING IT!” Buttmunch.
Even if Gearhart was influential, it wouldn’t follow that all feminists agree with everything she said.
Repeating arguments that have been made approximately eleventy billion times before on this very blog yields a score of -5/10.
“Even if Gearhart was influential, it wouldn’t follow that all feminists agree with everything she said.”
Yet it does follow that all MRAs agree with everything influential MRAs say. That is what I am getting here.
I’m also getting that a normal, reasonable discussion is not possible. There shall be name calling, disrespect, and no point, valid or not, shall be accepted.
So, you ladies may all break out your flags… You’ve won another Great Victory on the MRAs. As I shan’t bother with you anymore.
I bid you all a good day.
Score update! Minus 3 points for persecution complex indicating poor understanding of how the internet works, and then minus another 2 points for the flounce.
Victory!
Rover thinks points should be accepted, “valid or not”?
-5 additional points.
Nice straw man. I never said that all MRAs agree with everything influential MRAs say.
lol ok
BTW, for anyone who hasn’t seen it, David fisked a bunch of these quotes from the standard MRA quote list here:
http://manboobz.com/2011/02/15/factchecking-a-list-of-hateful-quotes-from-feminists/
He links to a commenter named triplanetary who debunks a bunch of the rest of them too. Just in case another copypasta troll comes along…