And so the MRAs have found yet another woman to hate.
Earlier this month, as many of you no doubt know, a Men’s Rights group sponsored a lecture at the University of Toronto. The event drew protesters, and the protesters drew MRAs with video cameras. One of the MRAs filmed a confrontation between a red-haired feminist activist and a number of MRAs who continually interrupted her as she tried to read a brief statement.
Her crime? She wasn’t exactly polite in responding to the interrupters. And so, after video of the confrontation was uploaded to YouTube, and linked to on the Men’s Rights subreddit and elsewhere, she became a virtual punching bag for the angry misogynists of the internet.
A Voice for Men, naturally, led the charge, running an article by Canadian MRA Dan Perrins labeling her “Little red frothing fornication mouth” and commenting on her breasts. The Amazing Atheist weighed in with a video I couldn’t bring myself to even watch.
Since being targeted by angry YouTube misogynists and MRAs, the red-haired activist has received death threats, rape threats and literally hundreds of other hateful and harassing messages. She’s also been “doxxed” — that is, she’s had her personal information plastered all over the internet, including on A Voice for Men’s forum. Ten days after being uploaded to YouTube, the video of her faceoff against the MRAs has garnered more than 300,000 views, and YouTubers are still leaving threats and insults and crude sexual comments.
This, apparently, is what “Men’s Human Rights Activism” consists of: the doxxing and harassment of individual women.
Several days ago, she contacted me to tell me about the harassment she’s endured. Here’s some of what she wrote:
I’m the red-head. I’m sure by now, you’re one of the 260,000 people who have seen the video of me … .
Because I had the audacity to tell a dude to stfu, an MRA no less, I have since been the target of not only just online misogyny (as if that’s a surprise) but cyber stalking, rape and death threats. They somehow found my facebook, they found my tumblr, they found a twitter acct that I don’t even use, they even found an old [dating site] profile of mine with outdated info …
I also got an anonymous message on tumblr that specifically said “[name deleted] would be disappointed”. [Name deleted] is my dog that died 1.5 years ago, I don’t talk about him on tumblr, nor fb, so they would have had to reaaaaalllly dig to find this info. …
In about 12-24hours, I got about400-500 new messages on my blog, most of them hate, which included rape and death threats, also people wishing death upon me or the typical troll “kill yourself” message. They made a meme of me.
I dunno how many haters I have, and I don’t know where they are. I can’t be sure at any given second, if I’m ever outside my house … if anyone is going to recognize me and try to hurt me.
With her permission, I am reposting screenshots she sent me documenting some of the harassment she’s endured. Even though her personal information has already been widely disseminated online, I don’t want to contribute to that, so I’ve whited out any information that might reveal her identity.
TRIGGER WARNING for what follows, for threatening language and crude sexual remarks.
Here’s a death threat she received from someone claiming to represent the “Islamic Brotherhood.”
Here are some sample comments from her Tumblr inbox. I’ve whited out comments and parts of comments that consist of her contact info, which being sent to her in an attempt to intimidate and frighten her by letting her know they “know where she lives.”
Here’s another threatening comment sent to her via Tumblr:
Here are some comments sent to her via her YouTube account. You’ll notice that the second comment comes from AVFM’s Dan Perrins, who is clearly relishing the attacks on her.
And another glimpse into her YouTube inbox:
Here’s a screenshot from a Men’s Rights forum revealing her personal information.
Meanwhile, over on YouTube, the hateful comments continue to pile up. Here are some of the nastiest ones I’ve collected. I am deliberately posting a lot of them in an attempt to convey something of the relentless nature of the attacks on teh red-haired activist — though I should note I’ve only gone through a small portion of the total comments there and this doesn’t even reflect all of the awful ones I found. These are not in any particular order. I threw in a few non-threatening ones that struck me as a tad ironic or otherwise revealing.
Again, this is only a small fraction of the abuse she’s gotten on YouTube.
This is what happens when MRAs and other misogynists target a woman online. The only thing that’s surprising here is the sheer amount of the hateful comments.
I’ve seen no serious attempts from any MRAs to rein in this sort of hatred. A Voice for Men has tried to distance itself in a superficial way from some of the harassment it has played a central role in unleashing, with an official announcement asking readers to refrain from posting the personal information of the red-haired activist in the comments. Meanwhile, in the AVFM forum, comments linking to her defunct dating profiles remain up.
This is what MRA “activism” looks like.
Coming tomorrow: A more detailed look at AVFM’s role in the harassment.
Wow, it’s almost as though perfectly well-behaved women who dare to speak up for themselves also get menaced, which might make a person think that the menacing is the fucking point, not their behavior. Hmmmm…
Ok, I’m literally falling asleep on my keyboard. But correct me (not you Chloe, you seem to have an error in your fact process system).
Farrell spoke last year, people blocked doors, and yelled/did typical protest things. Red may or may not have even been there, certainly doesn’t seem to have been important if she was.
This year, he got protested again — standard fare chanting stuff, person with bullhorn = not Red — someone off screen pulled the fire alarm — not Red, who was on screen — Red sings “Cry me a River” and get death threats and her home info posted across the internet.
At one or the other, I am unclear which, some feminist group had a member say that she wanted to dox MRAs — does not appear to have happened and isn’t the view of anyone outside that group, and potentially not the view of anyone but her. Unclear how the fuck this pertains to Red getting dox’ed besides as a “see dox’ing is bad!”…except nope, because apparently I’m a fucking little shit for daring to think that whole long quote, with the dox’ing question, wasn’t an innocent little reply to whether the feminists had “promised militant action”?
I am missing anything? Besides sleep that is. Also, thoughts on applying ben-gay to the bottoms of my feet? Yeah I’ll slide around, but my everything hurts.
Chloe is banned for sockpuppeting. IP traces to the same place as Laight Tempest’s.
So much for Laight’s claims of HONESTY when doing the Laight/Raven effort. ::rolls eyes::
RavenLaight? Hermn… She tried to take it to my blog, and here she was making some bog standard MRA talking points; to go with the Bog Standard MRA talking points she was making before.
Methinks she doth protest too much.
I suspect the Chloe persona was so she could swear more, and drop some of the, “I’m a feministy person” aspects of the Raven persona, which took a hit when the Laight one slipped the mask.
I think the combination of her reading off the list how feminists “don’t want a high suicide rate among men” and her from-the-heart, sarcastic “cry me a river” line says it all. She doesn’t think that men are people. And she was protesting because someone was actually trying to do something about men’s issues and she didn’t like that fact.
But that’s the feminist way, isn’t it? To feminists, men aren’t people.
And the fact is I don’t believe you. I am quite sure you are capable of creating a dummy website to take a screenshot. And you provide no links. It all has the “don’t question, just trust me” vibe. I have seen MRA sites. They all call her “big red” and nothing more. But I don’t expect honesty from feminists or even their male supporters.
*unfolds a map* Shit, did I end up in bizzarro world? Must’ve taken a wrong turn at Albuquerque. *dives back into tunnel*
(*prays that everyone else is familiar with Bugs Bunny*)
You have to admire* the trolls persistence in making this thread really long.
Okay, pvbwhatever. You don’t believe the post. Is there any point in telling us that? Other than showing the MRA’s continued lack of acceptance of evidence contrary to their world view
*no you don’t
And the fact is I don’t believe you. I am quite sure you are capable of creating a dummy website to take a screenshot.
Oh, the conspiracy goes deeper than that, my friend! David, with the help of NASA and the CIA, constructed a wormhole to an alternate dimension, found an alternate-dimension website, screencapped that, and is trying to pass it off as legit. I caught you now, David, you and your incredibly complex and time-consuming totally realistic plan!
I think men aren’t people?! Houston, we have a problem!
Pecunium’s at work and probably won’t see this, but why do I know he’s at work? We were discussing meeting for a trip to MoMA. I’m meeting a not-person! Awesome!
Howard!! You aren’t a person!
…wait, where do genderqueer folks stand? Do I have to look in my pants to determine if I exist?
@greendaywantsavatars, I think his name is “Publius”, but with Latin-y V’s instead of U’s. Though whether he’s got pretensions of Romanness or is trying to invoke the US “founding fathers” is anyone’s guess.
@Argenti Aertheri
I think you should write your experiences of talking to a non-person down and then sell it as a best selling book.
I should ask my non-person* to cook me lunch, which he’ll probably wind up doing. But not because he got replaced by a robot who follows my every command, because i have fibromyalgia pains and he is very nice about getting me stuff so I can minimize my paininess recently.
*Dad
Psah, that’s kids stuff. In reality we’ve tapped into the water system to release a male-controling agent that makes men docile. Except the alphas. After all, how are we gonna have fun if we don’t have the cock carousel?
…being a male feminist, I’ve never considered myself a person, obviously.
Also, other men.
This is also like something Owly would say with a straight face. Why is everything reminding me of him right now? Is this a thing?
You mean pecunium’s nym? It’s a weird combo of:
peculium : a bit of money, a small property
pecunia : money.
And Aertheri should really be Aetheri, so I can’t knock his word mish mash, at least it makes sense, I just plain can’t spell!
Argenti is fine btw
pvblivs, duh. Ignore me.
I call Pell though, his comments on Latin where horribad. To the degree I think he would try to be super smart and use G’s as u’s…except no one does that. It’s an artifact of v being easier to carve in stone, and since there is also a v, it makes more sense to transliterated (sorta) the non-v v’s into u’s.
And if that made sense, have a cookie.
I love the idea that David would go to such lengths to fake screenshots from so many different sites, when obviously we’re such ideology-blinded feminist sheeple that we’d probably believe him with just one.
pvblivs, if you have any googling skills at all, you could track down the site from which I took the doxing screenshot. It’s run by a well-known MRA who has been around for years, is without a shadow of a doubt a real person and not me, lives on a different continent than I do, has put up numerous videos of himself online, etc etc. I just checked and it’s still up; indeed, he discovered I posted a screenshot here and has added some really creepy threatening comments aimed at women in general to it.
The youtube comments are a bit harder to track down as there are so many of them, but if you go to youtube you can find new horrible and threatening comments being added to the videos of red every day!
First, let me say that I don’t condone the threats of murder, or rape, or any bodily harm.
That said, I must also say, that I don’t feel the least bit sorry for her receiving this tidal wave of hate. Her behavior at the UoT, in my opinion, was rather disgusting. If that is how she deals with everyone who disagrees with her point of view, then she shouldn’t even be surprised.
I don’t condone these threats, but I don’t feel sorry for her — she should have expected it.
Yeah okay then. If you don’t condone it, you don’t condone it, period. There is no “except…” attached.
I always wonder if the level of cognitive dissonance that statements like that produces gives the people making them a migraine.
“I totally don’t condone it BUT SHE BROUGHT IT ON HERSELF”
Genius.
Thanks for stopping by and dropping that little nugget off. I’m sure you feel so much better. Now go step on a lego.
R.Dover, don’t be such a coward with that mealy-mouthed first sentence. You think she deserves to receive a “tidal wave of hate”. Just say so.